SOFLady, I think you bring out some good points. I think we need to hear more re the plan before we start to put it down. Sounds like most of you would rather cover the medical cost for the uninsured, which is what happens. I am tired of paying high prices for health insurance so I can help the uninsured.
Who would be most in favor of getting this passed? Seems to me she’s pandering to the non-workers or the workers with minimal wages. If I were in that segment, I guess I would vote for her (NOT EVER).
As far as the VA, it’s not all that. My Dad fought in WWII and came back with a Purple Heart. It was an assemblyline hospital. He had several health problems, and never saw the same doctor twice. You went to clinics where you had to wait for hours on end to be seen. It may have changed, but it sure sucked then for him and my Mother.
I heard an estimate on illegal aliens in the US, that there were 30 Million. If we kicked their sorry bums out of the country, wouldn’t that reduce the uninsured to something more managable? Maybe that much smaller number could be analyzed and solutions better than Heil Clinton’s can be worked out.
I think those of us who are putting it down without knowing the details are just being realistic….these over promising, all encompasing campaign statements are as tired as jokes about “no new taxes.” it’s played out…i wish these presidential candidates would live by the 80/20 rule…if they can get 80% of the country to be able to obtain affordable healthcare…then we’re on the right track.
and i still stand by my statement that if we stop giving free insurance and medical treatment to illegal aliens….a good chunk of the problem would be solved.
I LIKE MY STEAK RED AND JUCY, NOT PINK OR OVER COOKED. WE HAVE A CHOICE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE EAT. I DON’T LIKE ANYTHING CRAMED DOWN MY THROAT. MABY IT’S BECAUSE I WORK HARD, HAVE A BRAIN, AND CAN MAKE MY OWN CHOICE TO EAT THE WAY I CHOOSE. I DON’T NEED A LIBERAL BILLERY TO TELL ME I HAVE TO EAT IT PINK AND SLICE IT UP FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN LINE TO PARTAKE EVENLY. I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEIR STEAK WELL DONE AND OTHERS WHO THINK EATING MEAT IS JUST WRONG. WHO EVER SAID HEALTH CARE IS AN ENTITLEMENT SHOULD READ THE CONSTITUDION AGAIN, BECAUSE, I DON’T REMEMBER IS SAYING ANY ONE SPECIAL INTEREST / INDUSTRY SHOULD BE GURANTEED A ENLTITEMENT / PROFIT.
I AM GOING TO LUNCH NOW TO DIGEST THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK YOU KNOW HOW I’LL PLACE MY ORDER NOW AND IN NOVEMBER.
Good point on the VA. It is not a great example of what medical care should be.
Her plan may appeal, from a voting perspective, to the low wage earners who don’t have medical care however many of these people, if faced with giving up part of their income for health care, will not choose to do so. It happens everyday now. There are people who cannot afford to make the employee contributions to a company provided health care plan and they choose to go uncovered. There is a segment of the people that will take risks, go without medical care, and have little regard for their long term health. Our government cannot change the way these people live their lives. We try and try to implement more laws & regulation to make people act responsibly and they don’t do it.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO EAT IT RED AND JUCY, PINKO, OR NOT AT ALL. DO YOU REALLY THINK LIBERAL BILLERY HAS A CHANCE IN NOVEMBER? SERVE IT UP ON A PLATE AND SEE HOW AMERICA SWALLOWS IT. YOU HAVE A BRAIN & CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE YOUR’S WELL DONE, IF YOU WANT. I DON’T LIKE IT THAT WAY, BUT THIS IS STILL AMERICA AND WE HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE WEATHER TO EAT OR NOT TO EAT. BILLERY WILL MAKE YOU EAT IT “HER WAY” IF ELECTED AND BIG INSURANCE PLANS OUR MENU. I PROMISE YOU, NO MATTER HOW YOU LIKE YOUR STEAK; IT’S NOT ON THE MENU.
Concerned, I totally agree with you..I also believe that if the gov. keeps trying to manage our health care that it is going to wind up the same as our legal system. Those with money get off scott free of criminal charges. I wonder how that will parallel to health costs?
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SOFLady, I think you bring out some good points. I think we need to hear more re the plan before we start to put it down. Sounds like most of you would rather cover the medical cost for the uninsured, which is what happens. I am tired of paying high prices for health insurance so I can help the uninsured.
Who would be most in favor of getting this passed? Seems to me she’s pandering to the non-workers or the workers with minimal wages. If I were in that segment, I guess I would vote for her (NOT EVER).
As far as the VA, it’s not all that. My Dad fought in WWII and came back with a Purple Heart. It was an assemblyline hospital. He had several health problems, and never saw the same doctor twice. You went to clinics where you had to wait for hours on end to be seen. It may have changed, but it sure sucked then for him and my Mother.
I heard an estimate on illegal aliens in the US, that there were 30 Million. If we kicked their sorry bums out of the country, wouldn’t that reduce the uninsured to something more managable? Maybe that much smaller number could be analyzed and solutions better than Heil Clinton’s can be worked out.
I think those of us who are putting it down without knowing the details are just being realistic….these over promising, all encompasing campaign statements are as tired as jokes about “no new taxes.” it’s played out…i wish these presidential candidates would live by the 80/20 rule…if they can get 80% of the country to be able to obtain affordable healthcare…then we’re on the right track.
and i still stand by my statement that if we stop giving free insurance and medical treatment to illegal aliens….a good chunk of the problem would be solved.
I LIKE MY STEAK RED AND JUCY, NOT PINK OR OVER COOKED. WE HAVE A CHOICE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE EAT. I DON’T LIKE ANYTHING CRAMED DOWN MY THROAT. MABY IT’S BECAUSE I WORK HARD, HAVE A BRAIN, AND CAN MAKE MY OWN CHOICE TO EAT THE WAY I CHOOSE. I DON’T NEED A LIBERAL BILLERY TO TELL ME I HAVE TO EAT IT PINK AND SLICE IT UP FOR EVERYONE ELSE IN LINE TO PARTAKE EVENLY. I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEIR STEAK WELL DONE AND OTHERS WHO THINK EATING MEAT IS JUST WRONG. WHO EVER SAID HEALTH CARE IS AN ENTITLEMENT SHOULD READ THE CONSTITUDION AGAIN, BECAUSE, I DON’T REMEMBER IS SAYING ANY ONE SPECIAL INTEREST / INDUSTRY SHOULD BE GURANTEED A ENLTITEMENT / PROFIT.
I AM GOING TO LUNCH NOW TO DIGEST THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK YOU KNOW HOW I’LL PLACE MY ORDER NOW AND IN NOVEMBER.
Ohhhhh. Yeah, I probably should have been able to guess that. But better to ask than to assume. Thanks for the info.
Good point on the VA. It is not a great example of what medical care should be.
Her plan may appeal, from a voting perspective, to the low wage earners who don’t have medical care however many of these people, if faced with giving up part of their income for health care, will not choose to do so. It happens everyday now. There are people who cannot afford to make the employee contributions to a company provided health care plan and they choose to go uncovered. There is a segment of the people that will take risks, go without medical care, and have little regard for their long term health. Our government cannot change the way these people live their lives. We try and try to implement more laws & regulation to make people act responsibly and they don’t do it.
A pinko is someone who is partly Red, like Obama or Hillary. In other words, a Democrat.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO EAT IT RED AND JUCY, PINKO, OR NOT AT ALL. DO YOU REALLY THINK LIBERAL BILLERY HAS A CHANCE IN NOVEMBER? SERVE IT UP ON A PLATE AND SEE HOW AMERICA SWALLOWS IT. YOU HAVE A BRAIN & CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE YOUR’S WELL DONE, IF YOU WANT. I DON’T LIKE IT THAT WAY, BUT THIS IS STILL AMERICA AND WE HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE WEATHER TO EAT OR NOT TO EAT. BILLERY WILL MAKE YOU EAT IT “HER WAY” IF ELECTED AND BIG INSURANCE PLANS OUR MENU. I PROMISE YOU, NO MATTER HOW YOU LIKE YOUR STEAK; IT’S NOT ON THE MENU.
Concerned, I totally agree with you..I also believe that if the gov. keeps trying to manage our health care that it is going to wind up the same as our legal system. Those with money get off scott free of criminal charges. I wonder how that will parallel to health costs?
So, the greatest measure of a societies [sic] success is the extent to which it is able to take care of it’s most vulnerable citizens, eh?
Let’s see…maybe we can rephrase it this way:
from each according to his ability…to each according to his need.
How’s that sound?
About the same when Karl Marx said it?