The emotional response is understandable, and no of COURSE it’s not alright for innocent people to be killed. I’m just saying that throwing millions of DUI offenders in prison and spending billions of dollars to incarcerate them each year is not realistic nor cost effective. These prisons have to be supported by tax dollars, and many are overcrowded to begin with.
Drinking and driving has been on the decline for decades due to the gradual change in the cultural attitude about it. I think continuing to push the message that it’s NOT OK is a good strategy . . . peer pressure can be extremely powerful, and will be effective with most DUI-ers. There will always be the hardcore cases and some of those perhaps need to go to prison.
I disagree with you. This jerk’s peers are probably a bunch of drunks so we can take peer pressure off the table. If he hasn’t gotten the message that drunk driving is not ok yet, I don’t think he willever get the message. I agree we don’t want to send every offender to prison but with 18 drunk driving offenses, this idiot needs to be incarcerated. Let’s start with 5-7 years, no time off for good behavior and if he’s ever caught intoxicated again, life with no chance of parole.
true, 9 yrs has passed since he had one… so did he have them and not get caught for 9 yrs? if his buddies loan him a car and he gets caught driving it, that car should be impounded? how many times over the last 18 has he actually driven a car that he owns? if i were hurt by this individual from an accident that he had while driving under the influence, i would not only sue him, but the state that gave him the license and the owner of the vehicle as well. i’d make it hurt! don’t tell me the judges would love him over me since i abide by the law. i think most folks would think this is atrocious.
In the late 70’s my Dad took a job as a consultant for an oil company in a well known Arab state. Because the local drivers were so reckless, American employees of this company were not allowed to drive themselves around-they had a car and driver provided. One morning my Dad had a new driver. He asked where the previous driver was. The new driver said that Abdul had been arrested for drunk driving the night before and had been beheaded early that morning. No chance for Abdul to get a second DUI.
Hi Reagan- Alcohol is in fact not permitted in Arab states yet it is available to anyone who REALLY wants to risk the consequences of using it. Kinda like buying heroin or crack out here in the western part of the USof A. And you are correct that the beheading would have occurred even if driving a car had not been involved.
As of 8:17am Eastern Time, there have been 11,719 drunken driving related death in the U.S. Need anything else be said about the grief that has been caused this year by the likes of this Drunken Yahoo. You Betcha NOT!
And by Xerxes’ standards you are qualified to be president.
The irony here is that Minnesota elected and re-elected Republican Governor, Tim Pawlenty who has had eight years to close this glaring loophole in the system, and instead did nothing. Now he is running for president in 2012! You can’t make it up!
MN Citizen, I think you missed my point. The DWI situation (to name one of many) needs to be effectively addressed and no one has had the courage to do so. There has never been a politician who was willing to put aside his/her political aspirations and make fundamental changes. I am saying that if there is such a person, (like Abraham Lincoln, or Martin Luther King, Jr. for example), that will work for the greater good and not for his own gain, then he would be head and shoulders above the rest. Name one person today who fits that bill?
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The emotional response is understandable, and no of COURSE it’s not alright for innocent people to be killed. I’m just saying that throwing millions of DUI offenders in prison and spending billions of dollars to incarcerate them each year is not realistic nor cost effective. These prisons have to be supported by tax dollars, and many are overcrowded to begin with.
Drinking and driving has been on the decline for decades due to the gradual change in the cultural attitude about it. I think continuing to push the message that it’s NOT OK is a good strategy . . . peer pressure can be extremely powerful, and will be effective with most DUI-ers. There will always be the hardcore cases and some of those perhaps need to go to prison.
I disagree with you. This jerk’s peers are probably a bunch of drunks so we can take peer pressure off the table. If he hasn’t gotten the message that drunk driving is not ok yet, I don’t think he willever get the message. I agree we don’t want to send every offender to prison but with 18 drunk driving offenses, this idiot needs to be incarcerated. Let’s start with 5-7 years, no time off for good behavior and if he’s ever caught intoxicated again, life with no chance of parole.
true, 9 yrs has passed since he had one… so did he have them and not get caught for 9 yrs? if his buddies loan him a car and he gets caught driving it, that car should be impounded? how many times over the last 18 has he actually driven a car that he owns? if i were hurt by this individual from an accident that he had while driving under the influence, i would not only sue him, but the state that gave him the license and the owner of the vehicle as well. i’d make it hurt! don’t tell me the judges would love him over me since i abide by the law. i think most folks would think this is atrocious.
In the late 70’s my Dad took a job as a consultant for an oil company in a well known Arab state. Because the local drivers were so reckless, American employees of this company were not allowed to drive themselves around-they had a car and driver provided. One morning my Dad had a new driver. He asked where the previous driver was. The new driver said that Abdul had been arrested for drunk driving the night before and had been beheaded early that morning. No chance for Abdul to get a second DUI.
I don’t think Abdul was beheaded so much for the drunkin DRIVING as he was just for DRINKING, period. This was an Arab state? No alcohol allowed.
Hi Reagan- Alcohol is in fact not permitted in Arab states yet it is available to anyone who REALLY wants to risk the consequences of using it. Kinda like buying heroin or crack out here in the western part of the USof A. And you are correct that the beheading would have occurred even if driving a car had not been involved.
As of 8:17am Eastern Time, there have been 11,719 drunken driving related death in the U.S. Need anything else be said about the grief that has been caused this year by the likes of this Drunken Yahoo. You Betcha NOT!
Correct that last remark! The North Star State Drunk. The rest of my remarks stand!
And by Xerxes’ standards you are qualified to be president.
The irony here is that Minnesota elected and re-elected Republican Governor, Tim Pawlenty who has had eight years to close this glaring loophole in the system, and instead did nothing. Now he is running for president in 2012! You can’t make it up!
MN Citizen, I think you missed my point. The DWI situation (to name one of many) needs to be effectively addressed and no one has had the courage to do so. There has never been a politician who was willing to put aside his/her political aspirations and make fundamental changes. I am saying that if there is such a person, (like Abraham Lincoln, or Martin Luther King, Jr. for example), that will work for the greater good and not for his own gain, then he would be head and shoulders above the rest. Name one person today who fits that bill?