Visit the website…. Quote John M. McCardell Jr. and his Vermont-based nonprofit, Choose Responsibility….”The only way to measure the effectiveness of a law is on its own terms,” he said. “Either we are a nation of law breakers or we have a bad law. This law has not eliminated or much reduced drinking, it’s just moved it underground.” THE LAW….increase drinking age to 21……CHoose want to reduce it to 18.
Ill obviously has a bad law. In addition, overzealous legislators have pushed more bad legislation as a result of this tear jerking story…..way to go Illinois…..listen to MADD for the unadulterated truth on alcohol. Listen to neo-prohibitionist zealots.
It’s stupid to let underage people drink in your home. It opens you up to huge liability. It’s illegal people, that’s all you need to know. And the argument of “better at my house than somewhere I can’t watch” doesn’t fly. We already know who will win this case. They deserve to win. I just hope the jury doesn’t go hog-wild with the judgement. The monies should be punitive but reasonable.
They raised him, they should be held responsible for not instilling moral and law abiding behaviors in their child. Someone else is always to blame in this country. The kid made the wrong decision so it can’t be his own fault.
Come on Anon. Way too many people think it’s ok to serve minors in their household. It’s illegal and immoral and shouldn’t be done. If you do it you are the one responsible. Sure the kid has some responsibility, but kids do a lot of thinks parents say not to do. These parents serving minors need to be sued. I can’t believe I’m saying anyone should be sued, but if anyone should be it’s irresponsible adults like these.
Let’s get over “making nice”…..the kid’s death was tragic. Having said that, nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to drink himself into a stupor. Strike one. He then gets behind the wheel of a car. Strike two. Then, he must have been traveling at a high rate of speed to hit a tree and sustain fatal injuries. Strike three. And for good measure, he probably didn’t have his seat belt on. (strike four) An 18 year old is intelligent and responsible enough to be a combat soldier, handle weapons, and use ultimate force, yet people continue to excuse stupidity and poor judgment about drinking. Nonsense. I’m not condoning the parents allowing alcohol for underage drinkers, but there were apparently several parties attending by dozens of kids who didn’t get drunk and slam into a tree. You can’t set standards to protect the 1% of irresponsible people. The hosts weren’t baby sitters. None of the kids friends bothered to stop him or offer to drive him home. If they want to fine the parents that’s one thing, but any monetary reward to the surviving parents is inappropriate. They should not profit from their son’s death……..one that he caused.
Actually the stupid thing here is allowing driving after drinking. The age of 21 for drinking is stupid – it was 18 until it got caught up in a federal arm twisting exercise over road funding a bunch of years ago.
Most of the rest of the world is 18 (19 in Canada) in fact in the UK you can take your kid to a restaurant and pub and let him / her have a beer or wine from at least 16, if not 13. So when my British son was visiting from ages 18 to 21 was I supposed to deny him a beer in my house which he could purchase legally at home???
It’s drinking and driving that is stupid, not drinking in your parent’s home under their supervision. What is that to do with anyone?
Ohioan is totally right. It is unfortunate two kids were killed but they chose to drive drunk. Period. No one’s fault but their own. All over the world the liquor cabinet is open and anyone can drink at any age and the kids do not go crazy to drink and get drunk. Why? Because it is there and you can do it. It is not taboo like it is here in the U.S. Kids are going to do what their parents tell them not to do and they did and they paid the ultimate price. No one’s fault but their own. Why should they get any money for that?
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Visit the website…. Quote John M. McCardell Jr. and his Vermont-based nonprofit, Choose Responsibility….”The only way to measure the effectiveness of a law is on its own terms,” he said. “Either we are a nation of law breakers or we have a bad law. This law has not eliminated or much reduced drinking, it’s just moved it underground.” THE LAW….increase drinking age to 21……CHoose want to reduce it to 18.
Ill obviously has a bad law. In addition, overzealous legislators have pushed more bad legislation as a result of this tear jerking story…..way to go Illinois…..listen to MADD for the unadulterated truth on alcohol. Listen to neo-prohibitionist zealots.
It’s stupid to let underage people drink in your home. It opens you up to huge liability. It’s illegal people, that’s all you need to know. And the argument of “better at my house than somewhere I can’t watch” doesn’t fly. We already know who will win this case. They deserve to win. I just hope the jury doesn’t go hog-wild with the judgement. The monies should be punitive but reasonable.
They raised him, they should be held responsible for not instilling moral and law abiding behaviors in their child. Someone else is always to blame in this country. The kid made the wrong decision so it can’t be his own fault.
Come on Anon. Way too many people think it’s ok to serve minors in their household. It’s illegal and immoral and shouldn’t be done. If you do it you are the one responsible. Sure the kid has some responsibility, but kids do a lot of thinks parents say not to do. These parents serving minors need to be sued. I can’t believe I’m saying anyone should be sued, but if anyone should be it’s irresponsible adults like these.
I agree lastbat. well said.
Let’s get over “making nice”…..the kid’s death was tragic. Having said that, nobody put a gun to his head and forced him to drink himself into a stupor. Strike one. He then gets behind the wheel of a car. Strike two. Then, he must have been traveling at a high rate of speed to hit a tree and sustain fatal injuries. Strike three. And for good measure, he probably didn’t have his seat belt on. (strike four) An 18 year old is intelligent and responsible enough to be a combat soldier, handle weapons, and use ultimate force, yet people continue to excuse stupidity and poor judgment about drinking. Nonsense. I’m not condoning the parents allowing alcohol for underage drinkers, but there were apparently several parties attending by dozens of kids who didn’t get drunk and slam into a tree. You can’t set standards to protect the 1% of irresponsible people. The hosts weren’t baby sitters. None of the kids friends bothered to stop him or offer to drive him home. If they want to fine the parents that’s one thing, but any monetary reward to the surviving parents is inappropriate. They should not profit from their son’s death……..one that he caused.
Two of the kids who survived the accident were recently involved in another DUI incident.
Actually the stupid thing here is allowing driving after drinking. The age of 21 for drinking is stupid – it was 18 until it got caught up in a federal arm twisting exercise over road funding a bunch of years ago.
Most of the rest of the world is 18 (19 in Canada) in fact in the UK you can take your kid to a restaurant and pub and let him / her have a beer or wine from at least 16, if not 13. So when my British son was visiting from ages 18 to 21 was I supposed to deny him a beer in my house which he could purchase legally at home???
It’s drinking and driving that is stupid, not drinking in your parent’s home under their supervision. What is that to do with anyone?
Ohioan is totally right. It is unfortunate two kids were killed but they chose to drive drunk. Period. No one’s fault but their own. All over the world the liquor cabinet is open and anyone can drink at any age and the kids do not go crazy to drink and get drunk. Why? Because it is there and you can do it. It is not taboo like it is here in the U.S. Kids are going to do what their parents tell them not to do and they did and they paid the ultimate price. No one’s fault but their own. Why should they get any money for that?