Ok, let’s see you stand up and pee!!. I am not saying women are not worth anything. If you believe that is what I said, then you have missed my point completely. My posts are not about bashing women, I love women!. I just believe that all the equal rights crap have hurt our society and is bringing it down to gutter level as we have no family values left and are kids are suffering for it. If you want the large house, 2 Beemers, and the condo in Hawaii, then don’t have kids. If you can get by with a modest 1200 sf house, a couple of chevrolets and a trip to Yosemite or Disneyland, then you could be the perfect parent. So many people say that both parents have to work, but in reality, after daycare expenses and such, if the parents truly cared about their children, they would find a way to downsize and make it on one. I do blame the ERA.
I’m glad to hear that. In today’s society, some can’t stay home due to the economy. Therefore, what else can women do. I side this woman because they’re always up against one thing or another. Have men been up against one thing or another? Give women a chance, that’s all I’m asking. I hope she wins for the principle of it all!
Well, we don’t have all the facts in this case, as usually, the IJ lacks in substance in most of their articles. I do hope that IF she was indeed discriminated against and the facts show it, she does win. BUT, if people want her to win just because she is a woman and use this as another club against men, then I hope they rule against her. Either way, the kids are still on the losing end of the stick as once you hit management level, your time at work seems to get longer and longer, (I know). Only when you hit a certain level can you “take off on a whim” to see a soccer or baseball game during the day.
my mommy went to work when i was a baby…now i’m a working ma myself. working da streets, yo! i got four kids to support…and they daddies ain’t paying!
if only my daddy had been around when i was growing up…all my problems woulda been solved. but he ran off with his secretary. damn working women, they get you at every end!
I have to disagree that it is always doable to live on one salary. In my area, unless you are a lawyer, doctor, etc it is difficult to live on one salary and I am not talking about living high on the hog.
I also like to read the wedding announcments in my local paper. It seems very common to see professional women with degrees marrying men with less education and skills. In these cases, there is a good chance that she will be a working mom.
However, whether or not having women work outside the home is a personal decision that should be made between husband and wife. It shouldnt be for anyone else to decide especially not an employer.
Dear Get Real: I’m sure she’s perfectly competent to handle the job from a technical skills standpoint. I’ve been a manager for 30 years and have managed both males and females. I’m here to tell you that the majority of women who have worked for me ended up having family “issues” that interfered with their job. I don’t consider having a key member of my team walking out of very important staff meeting to deal with a child care issue. I don’t care for a call at 7:00am telling me the sitter is ill. Some concessions are fine, but my bet is with triplets and a 13 year old this woman will have to decide what comes first. Women to day want to have it all, a career and a family. Both are full time jobs. You can’t put two gallons in a one gallon container. And we wonder why our young people are having problems. This has nothing to do with womens rights and equal treatment. It’s about reality.
Why is everyone assuming that she’ll get the call if the kids are sick ? She’s managed to get excellent performance reviews for the last 9 years and was told last year she’d be getting a promotion. She’s either got reliable child care ( husband, family, nanny, etc ), super healthy kids or something, but its not a problem for her. The “family values” crowd can say that makes her a bad mom, but it doesn’t make her a bad employee.
These bosses screwed up twice. They made a decision unfairly, and then they told her in such a way that they opened themselves up to a legal liability.
Not to sound ignorant but where exactly does it say she had excellent performance reviews or that her superior told her she would be getting a promotion? All the ariticle says is that she was passed up for a promotion…..
I mean never mind what the ariticle actually says lets just make it up as we go along…….
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For whose shortcommings MEN–because women can do their jobs just as well? Deal with the facts.
Ok, let’s see you stand up and pee!!. I am not saying women are not worth anything. If you believe that is what I said, then you have missed my point completely. My posts are not about bashing women, I love women!. I just believe that all the equal rights crap have hurt our society and is bringing it down to gutter level as we have no family values left and are kids are suffering for it. If you want the large house, 2 Beemers, and the condo in Hawaii, then don’t have kids. If you can get by with a modest 1200 sf house, a couple of chevrolets and a trip to Yosemite or Disneyland, then you could be the perfect parent. So many people say that both parents have to work, but in reality, after daycare expenses and such, if the parents truly cared about their children, they would find a way to downsize and make it on one. I do blame the ERA.
I’m glad to hear that. In today’s society, some can’t stay home due to the economy. Therefore, what else can women do. I side this woman because they’re always up against one thing or another. Have men been up against one thing or another? Give women a chance, that’s all I’m asking. I hope she wins for the principle of it all!
Well, we don’t have all the facts in this case, as usually, the IJ lacks in substance in most of their articles. I do hope that IF she was indeed discriminated against and the facts show it, she does win. BUT, if people want her to win just because she is a woman and use this as another club against men, then I hope they rule against her. Either way, the kids are still on the losing end of the stick as once you hit management level, your time at work seems to get longer and longer, (I know). Only when you hit a certain level can you “take off on a whim” to see a soccer or baseball game during the day.
I am TOO LOUD TO IGNORE!
ROAR!
my mommy went to work when i was a baby…now i’m a working ma myself. working da streets, yo! i got four kids to support…and they daddies ain’t paying!
if only my daddy had been around when i was growing up…all my problems woulda been solved. but he ran off with his secretary. damn working women, they get you at every end!
I have to disagree that it is always doable to live on one salary. In my area, unless you are a lawyer, doctor, etc it is difficult to live on one salary and I am not talking about living high on the hog.
I also like to read the wedding announcments in my local paper. It seems very common to see professional women with degrees marrying men with less education and skills. In these cases, there is a good chance that she will be a working mom.
However, whether or not having women work outside the home is a personal decision that should be made between husband and wife. It shouldnt be for anyone else to decide especially not an employer.
Dear Get Real: I’m sure she’s perfectly competent to handle the job from a technical skills standpoint. I’ve been a manager for 30 years and have managed both males and females. I’m here to tell you that the majority of women who have worked for me ended up having family “issues” that interfered with their job. I don’t consider having a key member of my team walking out of very important staff meeting to deal with a child care issue. I don’t care for a call at 7:00am telling me the sitter is ill. Some concessions are fine, but my bet is with triplets and a 13 year old this woman will have to decide what comes first. Women to day want to have it all, a career and a family. Both are full time jobs. You can’t put two gallons in a one gallon container. And we wonder why our young people are having problems. This has nothing to do with womens rights and equal treatment. It’s about reality.
Why is everyone assuming that she’ll get the call if the kids are sick ? She’s managed to get excellent performance reviews for the last 9 years and was told last year she’d be getting a promotion. She’s either got reliable child care ( husband, family, nanny, etc ), super healthy kids or something, but its not a problem for her. The “family values” crowd can say that makes her a bad mom, but it doesn’t make her a bad employee.
These bosses screwed up twice. They made a decision unfairly, and then they told her in such a way that they opened themselves up to a legal liability.
Not to sound ignorant but where exactly does it say she had excellent performance reviews or that her superior told her she would be getting a promotion? All the ariticle says is that she was passed up for a promotion…..
I mean never mind what the ariticle actually says lets just make it up as we go along…….
Those pieces of information weren’t in the Insurance Journal article, but were in an article by the AP and a Maine newspaper.