What ever happened to FREE WILL?? At 53 years old, doesn\’t this lady think before she reacts? Sure… it was a bad sales incentive on the company\’s part but the plaintiff needs to accept her portion of the responsibility as well.
I certain that TxGuru is not a single working mother who needs her job, who may not have a savings to fall back on if she is fired, and was put in a position to do something out of fear of financial ruin.
Not all of us are Oil barons Mr. TX – many of us just exist the best we can. I feel really sorry for this woman, and I feel really sorry for you too for not understanding what women face in the work environment everyday.
What happened was not right, should not have happened and the owners should be pubically humiliated for what they allowed to happen in their company.
The spankee is an idiot. She is more than old enough to have made the decision to refuse to be spanked in the first place–it\’s called self-esteem and standing up for yourself. If she were fired for refusing to participate, then she would have a legitimate reason to sue. She\’s just making herself look like a complete imbecile.
I\’m not sure why you are bringing up that she is a woman, and the \”poor working woman\” excuse. I, for one, am sick of hearing of it.
This excercise of free will involved EVERY salesperson, not just women or minorities. Even balding white men participated. For you to do the whole \”poor woman\” routine does absolutely nothing for the women who are out here every day pounding the pavement trying to make an honest living. You should be ashamed.
I was a single mom raising a daughter on my own, making just above minimum wage and scraping by when I got into this biz. I got my butt in gear because I wanted more for my daughter, and I worked for it – nobody gave me anything. I really resent the attitude that I should have been pitied.
Looks like the idiots are still growing strong; another one made it to 53 & may grow older yet, now that she has a possible nest egg to fall back on. Perhaps she is to old to have more of her own, but please do not allow any adopted child to be under her care! We need people that are capable of making decisions for themselves & then not trying to sue everyone else because they were the dumb A$$ that made them self look like an idiot – no wonder she was humiliated – she wasn\’t smart enough to say no – OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH – that may have something to do with it to – maybe she never just said no & maybe she did inhale!
Employment Practices Liability and only if they purchased it. It is a very expensive policy in California (roughly 2x+ of any other state), but is highly recommended due to the litigious climate and lack of employer protections.
Likelyhood of this business having this coverage: 1 in 10.
Are not women and men totally equal? That is what the NOW gang says. Being spanked with a sign-two teams one loses-all losers chastised with spanking and comments. Not just this lady. Sounds like fun and games, NOT TORTURE. This has absolutely nothing to do with being a single mother-all of her bad choices-not mine. This has nothing to do with being a woman. Men were also spanked.
Stupid games..YES…TORTURE & HUMILIATION…NOT….
We can choose not to work for companies like these…
We are employees of our own will. We can start our own companies, we can find better employment, heck we can even question potential employers about what typically happens for training, etc. We can choose to quit-before going through such an earth shattering tragedy. Life is in our hands, we can set higher standards for ourself, we can trade a little security of a steady check for the high risk and high potential reward of going into business for ourselves. Always knocking employers gets you know where. Instead get the GUTS to make it on your own!!!
Having fun at work $39.58
Getting spanked….PRICELESS!!!!!!!
Just ask any lawyer.
Not only did she have the option of not participating she also has the option of NOT WORKING THERE.
Yes, when the employer came up with what she thought was a stupid, perhaps even shameful incentive program she could have quit. Either walked out the door then or started looking for another job. Employment is not, and should not be, guaranteed.
If my employer came up with this hairbrained idea I\’d be gone ASAP. There\’s a gazillion sales jobs out there and there\’s nothing special about selling home alarm equipment, in fact it\’s probably near the bottom of the sales ladder.
This is bad all around – bad decisions by the employer followed by bad decisions by the employee.
Bottom line – if the employer had not made the bad decision to start none of this would have happened.
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Yeah, and had she not volunteered, would be considered to not be a team player, and would probably have been fired…
And the person who came up with this bonhead idea should have been shown the door…
What ever happened to FREE WILL?? At 53 years old, doesn\’t this lady think before she reacts? Sure… it was a bad sales incentive on the company\’s part but the plaintiff needs to accept her portion of the responsibility as well.
I certain that TxGuru is not a single working mother who needs her job, who may not have a savings to fall back on if she is fired, and was put in a position to do something out of fear of financial ruin.
Not all of us are Oil barons Mr. TX – many of us just exist the best we can. I feel really sorry for this woman, and I feel really sorry for you too for not understanding what women face in the work environment everyday.
What happened was not right, should not have happened and the owners should be pubically humiliated for what they allowed to happen in their company.
Shame on them and Shame on TXGuru.
The spankee is an idiot. She is more than old enough to have made the decision to refuse to be spanked in the first place–it\’s called self-esteem and standing up for yourself. If she were fired for refusing to participate, then she would have a legitimate reason to sue. She\’s just making herself look like a complete imbecile.
Interesting responses, but time out for insurance questions:
Is the company covered?
What provision of any policy covers this?
How do you underwrite it?
I\’m not sure why you are bringing up that she is a woman, and the \”poor working woman\” excuse. I, for one, am sick of hearing of it.
This excercise of free will involved EVERY salesperson, not just women or minorities. Even balding white men participated. For you to do the whole \”poor woman\” routine does absolutely nothing for the women who are out here every day pounding the pavement trying to make an honest living. You should be ashamed.
I was a single mom raising a daughter on my own, making just above minimum wage and scraping by when I got into this biz. I got my butt in gear because I wanted more for my daughter, and I worked for it – nobody gave me anything. I really resent the attitude that I should have been pitied.
Looks like the idiots are still growing strong; another one made it to 53 & may grow older yet, now that she has a possible nest egg to fall back on. Perhaps she is to old to have more of her own, but please do not allow any adopted child to be under her care! We need people that are capable of making decisions for themselves & then not trying to sue everyone else because they were the dumb A$$ that made them self look like an idiot – no wonder she was humiliated – she wasn\’t smart enough to say no – OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH – that may have something to do with it to – maybe she never just said no & maybe she did inhale!
LOL – Happy Friday!
Employment Practices Liability and only if they purchased it. It is a very expensive policy in California (roughly 2x+ of any other state), but is highly recommended due to the litigious climate and lack of employer protections.
Likelyhood of this business having this coverage: 1 in 10.
Are not women and men totally equal? That is what the NOW gang says. Being spanked with a sign-two teams one loses-all losers chastised with spanking and comments. Not just this lady. Sounds like fun and games, NOT TORTURE. This has absolutely nothing to do with being a single mother-all of her bad choices-not mine. This has nothing to do with being a woman. Men were also spanked.
Stupid games..YES…TORTURE & HUMILIATION…NOT….
We can choose not to work for companies like these…
We are employees of our own will. We can start our own companies, we can find better employment, heck we can even question potential employers about what typically happens for training, etc. We can choose to quit-before going through such an earth shattering tragedy. Life is in our hands, we can set higher standards for ourself, we can trade a little security of a steady check for the high risk and high potential reward of going into business for ourselves. Always knocking employers gets you know where. Instead get the GUTS to make it on your own!!!
Having fun at work $39.58
Getting spanked….PRICELESS!!!!!!!
Just ask any lawyer.
Not only did she have the option of not participating she also has the option of NOT WORKING THERE.
Yes, when the employer came up with what she thought was a stupid, perhaps even shameful incentive program she could have quit. Either walked out the door then or started looking for another job. Employment is not, and should not be, guaranteed.
If my employer came up with this hairbrained idea I\’d be gone ASAP. There\’s a gazillion sales jobs out there and there\’s nothing special about selling home alarm equipment, in fact it\’s probably near the bottom of the sales ladder.
This is bad all around – bad decisions by the employer followed by bad decisions by the employee.
Bottom line – if the employer had not made the bad decision to start none of this would have happened.