Thanks Time Out. I thought they were talking about this case too.
And wasn’t the original owner(s) imprisoned for drug distribution. The dogs were used as protection, and the people who took possession of the dogs were their attorneys, and unfortunately for them attacked during that time.
I know a defense was brought up about the person attacked wearing pheno???, a male hormone, and they believed it brought out a more aggressive nature. Not sure if this had anything to do with the attack,if there is a reason to be concerned with the breed, or if it was strictly because the way the dog was brought up by its owners!
My biggest opposition to breed bans are that people will just move to another breed.
In the 70s, dobermans were considered the scary breed of dog.
German shepards can be trained to be just as deadly as a pit bull.
How do you define what a pit bull is? I don’t think there is a recognized specific pit bull breed. Are Staffordshire Terriers pits? Presa canarios? Are mixes of these considered pit bulls?
Many dog fighters use mutts for dog fighting. Would a cross between a “pit bull” and a Rottweiler be considered a banned dog? If so, how about a cross between a Rottweiler and a Great Dane.
I wouldn’t own any of the breeds listed, but I know people who do & have had several without a problem.
If people want vicious dogs, they’ll be able to find a legal dog that will be vicious.
I can only lend my own experience but pit bulls and dobermans scare the crap out of me; I have had nothing but BAD encounters with these breeds in the city I used to live in…..and I have only seen a dog attack and kill another animal but once…it was not hunting season; it was not on a farm or in the country but in an alley in a city of 55,000….the animal attacked was a cat and the owner of the dog and his friends cheered it on. both the dog and hit owner need to be taken out of the gene pool….
NTXCoog: Thanks for the correction. Notwithstanding, the stats are what they are. I notice you had no comment on my account of a recent claim. Do you defend the high cost of the “occasional” attack by these breeds? Shouldn’t they be avoided if possible? Is owning one of these animals a significant priority in life? If it were your animal involved in the attack I described, what would you say to the parents? “Gee, he’s never done that before. He’s usually a nice dog.” There is no reason for anyone to have an animal with known propensities for attacks that maim and kill. Other breeds bite but they don’t “attack” and refuse to backoff and they don’t cause catastrophic injuries or death. Therein lies the difference of opinion. Some breeds simply don’t belong with the general public because of the potential outcome of an attack. And the smug owner’s $100,000 Homeowner Liability Policy Limit won’t come anywhere near covering the damages. It’s not like there aren’t other breeds to choose from if you want a pet. Bastante.
My friend worked at a no kill shelter. One day a pit bull attacked another dog there and just would not release the dog. Kept its jaws clamped down hard. My friend got totally freaked out, she was a volunteer there. The shelter people had to use a “special key” to open the pit bull’s mouth to dislodge the poor victim.
We have a three year old German Shepherd female. We were dog sitting my sister in law’s pit bull female mix. Our dog and the pit bull were getting very nicely inside and outside of our house for about an hour and then the pit bull went very aggressive on our dog. Not provoked in the least. The pit bull is a sweet little dog but very unpredictable.
I’ve been reading the comments posted and I agree with everyone’s thoughts to an extent. Some dogs need to be banned, but not by breed. Has anyone who has posted their opinions read up on the history of the Pit Bull? I have and every article I’ve read say they are a loyal family (people oriented) breed. This is as long as they are raised to be a family dog. If they are abused, trained to be aggressive and allowed to be the dominant in the family, they should then be banned. My son has 2 Staffordshire Terriers. They weigh about 40 pounds each. They are horrible watch dogs because every person they see is a potential friend. He has micro chipped them because he wants to be responsible for them. He has also disclosed to his insurance company that they are in his home and pays for a large liability policy just in case. I know there are some that aren’t good dogs but I truly don’t think it is the breed that is the problem, it is the owner. I won’t go up to a strange pit bull, but I won’t go up to any dog breed unless I ask if it is friendly. The mentality, it seems to me anymore, is to ban or change something so people don’t have to take responsibility for their actions.
The bans though aren’t based solely on stats, at least not fatality stats. German Shepards have killed more people than wolf hybrids and Chows in the last 20 years. So have Huskies. Boxers also are in the same range as Chows.
There have been about 300 deaths caused by dog bites in the last 20 years. That’s 15 a year. Is it worth writing questionable legislation for 15 deaths a year?
Oddest death I saw was a woman killed by her dachsund. Actually her dachsund and lab attacked and killed her.
Thanks NTXCoog for correcting the fallacies that people on this board are stating (re: type of dog). Someone else mentioned the SF attacks (I live in SF and was here when it happened and I happen to know the woman who was the partner of the lady that died) and mentioned the attack was due to menstruation. That is an appalling lie, the defense used that as a defense and it was not fact.
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Thanks Time Out. I thought they were talking about this case too.
And wasn’t the original owner(s) imprisoned for drug distribution. The dogs were used as protection, and the people who took possession of the dogs were their attorneys, and unfortunately for them attacked during that time.
I know a defense was brought up about the person attacked wearing pheno???, a male hormone, and they believed it brought out a more aggressive nature. Not sure if this had anything to do with the attack,if there is a reason to be concerned with the breed, or if it was strictly because the way the dog was brought up by its owners!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,283852,00.html
My biggest opposition to breed bans are that people will just move to another breed.
In the 70s, dobermans were considered the scary breed of dog.
German shepards can be trained to be just as deadly as a pit bull.
How do you define what a pit bull is? I don’t think there is a recognized specific pit bull breed. Are Staffordshire Terriers pits? Presa canarios? Are mixes of these considered pit bulls?
Many dog fighters use mutts for dog fighting. Would a cross between a “pit bull” and a Rottweiler be considered a banned dog? If so, how about a cross between a Rottweiler and a Great Dane.
I wouldn’t own any of the breeds listed, but I know people who do & have had several without a problem.
If people want vicious dogs, they’ll be able to find a legal dog that will be vicious.
I can only lend my own experience but pit bulls and dobermans scare the crap out of me; I have had nothing but BAD encounters with these breeds in the city I used to live in…..and I have only seen a dog attack and kill another animal but once…it was not hunting season; it was not on a farm or in the country but in an alley in a city of 55,000….the animal attacked was a cat and the owner of the dog and his friends cheered it on. both the dog and hit owner need to be taken out of the gene pool….
NTXCoog: Thanks for the correction. Notwithstanding, the stats are what they are. I notice you had no comment on my account of a recent claim. Do you defend the high cost of the “occasional” attack by these breeds? Shouldn’t they be avoided if possible? Is owning one of these animals a significant priority in life? If it were your animal involved in the attack I described, what would you say to the parents? “Gee, he’s never done that before. He’s usually a nice dog.” There is no reason for anyone to have an animal with known propensities for attacks that maim and kill. Other breeds bite but they don’t “attack” and refuse to backoff and they don’t cause catastrophic injuries or death. Therein lies the difference of opinion. Some breeds simply don’t belong with the general public because of the potential outcome of an attack. And the smug owner’s $100,000 Homeowner Liability Policy Limit won’t come anywhere near covering the damages. It’s not like there aren’t other breeds to choose from if you want a pet. Bastante.
My friend worked at a no kill shelter. One day a pit bull attacked another dog there and just would not release the dog. Kept its jaws clamped down hard. My friend got totally freaked out, she was a volunteer there. The shelter people had to use a “special key” to open the pit bull’s mouth to dislodge the poor victim.
We have a three year old German Shepherd female. We were dog sitting my sister in law’s pit bull female mix. Our dog and the pit bull were getting very nicely inside and outside of our house for about an hour and then the pit bull went very aggressive on our dog. Not provoked in the least. The pit bull is a sweet little dog but very unpredictable.
I’ve been reading the comments posted and I agree with everyone’s thoughts to an extent. Some dogs need to be banned, but not by breed. Has anyone who has posted their opinions read up on the history of the Pit Bull? I have and every article I’ve read say they are a loyal family (people oriented) breed. This is as long as they are raised to be a family dog. If they are abused, trained to be aggressive and allowed to be the dominant in the family, they should then be banned. My son has 2 Staffordshire Terriers. They weigh about 40 pounds each. They are horrible watch dogs because every person they see is a potential friend. He has micro chipped them because he wants to be responsible for them. He has also disclosed to his insurance company that they are in his home and pays for a large liability policy just in case. I know there are some that aren’t good dogs but I truly don’t think it is the breed that is the problem, it is the owner. I won’t go up to a strange pit bull, but I won’t go up to any dog breed unless I ask if it is friendly. The mentality, it seems to me anymore, is to ban or change something so people don’t have to take responsibility for their actions.
The bans though aren’t based solely on stats, at least not fatality stats. German Shepards have killed more people than wolf hybrids and Chows in the last 20 years. So have Huskies. Boxers also are in the same range as Chows.
There have been about 300 deaths caused by dog bites in the last 20 years. That’s 15 a year. Is it worth writing questionable legislation for 15 deaths a year?
Oddest death I saw was a woman killed by her dachsund. Actually her dachsund and lab attacked and killed her.
Correction on the boxers… I accidentally looked at the maiming column for boxers instead of fatalities.
Thanks NTXCoog for correcting the fallacies that people on this board are stating (re: type of dog). Someone else mentioned the SF attacks (I live in SF and was here when it happened and I happen to know the woman who was the partner of the lady that died) and mentioned the attack was due to menstruation. That is an appalling lie, the defense used that as a defense and it was not fact.