I’m with LastBat and C regarding how the mother allowed her son to reach that weight in the first place. At 443 pounds this kid was morbidly obese and probably had come contributing conditions. There’s obviously something at play here we don’t know about since the $1M settlement isn’t that high for a wrongful death suit. I still have a problem with awarding the survivors in alleged med-mal cases. People keep swearing nobody can put a price on the life of loved one but that’s exactly what they do in these suits. How does a financial windfall make them feel better about what happened? They aren’t punishing the doctors since their med-mal insurance covers the settlement. It only drives up the cost of medical services. We need a better way to address these kinds of things but I don’t see any coming in our lifetime since the lawyers aren’t likely to step back from their money trough.
Our legal system is well-rooted in “compensation” for the injured and I can deal with that. What I can’t deal with is enriching the survivors. “Gee, I watched my son gain 443 pounds and he died while trying to artificially control his weight. But…..I’m going to Disneyland”>
I think we justify paying survivors money by saying they have been injured. Though in this case any “injury” would be purely emotional in many cases. Even for those cases wherein the primary earner is killed I can’t see anything past a couple months support while people get on their feet. Sometimes life sucks and you don’t get to keep your standard of living.
I think the biggest problem is the only thing we have to throw at these cases is money. And we don’t know where to throw it to. Unfortunately I’m not smart enough to come up with a better solution; I only know there is one out there.
I think it is wonderful how people who have never been 420 + lbs know exactly what it is like and can tell thoes that have been there exactly how to loose the weight.
I congratulate everyone commenting for never being in that situation. It is horrible to watch for everyone. Yes you can move more, but what about when the weight causes you back problems, knee problems, vascualr problems, etc. And what about the multitude of doctors that descriminate against you just because you’re obese. So they won’t help you the way they will help someone that is not obese.
It is a great idea, the slow weight loss. It works very well for most. But when you are very close to having a heart attack or you could loose a leg because your veins are so tight slow weight loss is not an option.
So again I say, it is wonderful for thoes that have never been there to know exactly what it is like and know exactly how to fix it.
When the primary earner is the victim, I do believe the victim’s family should be entitled to what he would have earned over the course of a natural career in their profession.
An engineer making $250,000 a year married to a stay at home mother with three kids- she should lose her home or end up in a 1bdrm apt becuase of someone else’s mistake? I think not. And the victim’s life insurance doesn’t come into play when his death is someone else’s fault, IMHO. Not when determining who is responsible and who should have to step in and take care of the victim’s family.
1) Bad parenting. These parents should be taken to task for not watching our for the best health interests of their children.
2) Slightly bad science. While weight is one factor in determining obesity, body composition needs to be taken into account. I didn’t see mention of body composition numbers in any of the articles (though I may have missed it). I’m not saying it’s good for a 16- or 17-year old kid to be 260lbs; but I am saying it’s healthier to be 260lbs at 12% body fat than 260lbs at 30% body fat.
3) Societal issues. This could be a rant in itself, but the lure is the millions of dollars made in the entertainment industry. That drives people to do all sorts of bad things to themselves. We as a society place abnormally large value on those that provide the least to the real productivity of our nation. It’s hard not to do whatever it takes to get a piece of that.
Dawn I have whats called a TV. NFL linebackers usually weigh about 240. Look it up honey, you are making a fool of yourself arguing over stuff that any idiot knows.
260 for a pro linebacker is HUGE.
The Buffalo Bills had 2 last year that weighed 220.
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I’m with LastBat and C regarding how the mother allowed her son to reach that weight in the first place. At 443 pounds this kid was morbidly obese and probably had come contributing conditions. There’s obviously something at play here we don’t know about since the $1M settlement isn’t that high for a wrongful death suit. I still have a problem with awarding the survivors in alleged med-mal cases. People keep swearing nobody can put a price on the life of loved one but that’s exactly what they do in these suits. How does a financial windfall make them feel better about what happened? They aren’t punishing the doctors since their med-mal insurance covers the settlement. It only drives up the cost of medical services. We need a better way to address these kinds of things but I don’t see any coming in our lifetime since the lawyers aren’t likely to step back from their money trough.
Our legal system is well-rooted in “compensation” for the injured and I can deal with that. What I can’t deal with is enriching the survivors. “Gee, I watched my son gain 443 pounds and he died while trying to artificially control his weight. But…..I’m going to Disneyland”>
lastbat thinks hes fricken Jack Lelane. Or Jared or something. You should cool it last bat.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/article.aspx?articleID=070923_2_B1_World84006
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070301142614AAqcG1N
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/16772755/
I think we justify paying survivors money by saying they have been injured. Though in this case any “injury” would be purely emotional in many cases. Even for those cases wherein the primary earner is killed I can’t see anything past a couple months support while people get on their feet. Sometimes life sucks and you don’t get to keep your standard of living.
I think the biggest problem is the only thing we have to throw at these cases is money. And we don’t know where to throw it to. Unfortunately I’m not smart enough to come up with a better solution; I only know there is one out there.
I think it is wonderful how people who have never been 420 + lbs know exactly what it is like and can tell thoes that have been there exactly how to loose the weight.
I congratulate everyone commenting for never being in that situation. It is horrible to watch for everyone. Yes you can move more, but what about when the weight causes you back problems, knee problems, vascualr problems, etc. And what about the multitude of doctors that descriminate against you just because you’re obese. So they won’t help you the way they will help someone that is not obese.
It is a great idea, the slow weight loss. It works very well for most. But when you are very close to having a heart attack or you could loose a leg because your veins are so tight slow weight loss is not an option.
So again I say, it is wonderful for thoes that have never been there to know exactly what it is like and know exactly how to fix it.
When the primary earner is the victim, I do believe the victim’s family should be entitled to what he would have earned over the course of a natural career in their profession.
An engineer making $250,000 a year married to a stay at home mother with three kids- she should lose her home or end up in a 1bdrm apt becuase of someone else’s mistake? I think not. And the victim’s life insurance doesn’t come into play when his death is someone else’s fault, IMHO. Not when determining who is responsible and who should have to step in and take care of the victim’s family.
See the links below- in my previous post.
But I’ve seen it on the news, CNN, MSNBC, and other health channels. The average weight for the high school linebacker is rising at an alarming rate.
Wow, women really dont know football at all.
So we have a couple things going on here:
1) Bad parenting. These parents should be taken to task for not watching our for the best health interests of their children.
2) Slightly bad science. While weight is one factor in determining obesity, body composition needs to be taken into account. I didn’t see mention of body composition numbers in any of the articles (though I may have missed it). I’m not saying it’s good for a 16- or 17-year old kid to be 260lbs; but I am saying it’s healthier to be 260lbs at 12% body fat than 260lbs at 30% body fat.
3) Societal issues. This could be a rant in itself, but the lure is the millions of dollars made in the entertainment industry. That drives people to do all sorts of bad things to themselves. We as a society place abnormally large value on those that provide the least to the real productivity of our nation. It’s hard not to do whatever it takes to get a piece of that.
Dawn I have whats called a TV. NFL linebackers usually weigh about 240. Look it up honey, you are making a fool of yourself arguing over stuff that any idiot knows.
260 for a pro linebacker is HUGE.
The Buffalo Bills had 2 last year that weighed 220.