Farmers don’t have to hire illegals – they can hire Mexicans who come here legally as migrant workers. I grew up on a farm that hired migrant workers and we worked beside them in the fields. I have nothing against the ones who do this legally. It is the illegal immigrants of whatever race–they might be from Cuba, India, etc, etc., they have reasons to come here and are hopeful for a better life for their children, but they do not deserve the same rights as American citizens. And it is not fair to us or them for these companies to hire them for lower wages.
society has a protocol that people are required to follow if they wish to become members of that society. In this case, it involves someone in this country illegally. As distateful as it may sound, their failure to have status in our society should prevent them from economic protections. They chose to take a risk by being here illegally. You have to earn rights and protections in any society and this person didn’t. He shouldn’t be abused, but neither should he have the same status, rights, and privileges that legal citizens have. He would have been no worse off had he statyed in his own pathetic country and was injured on the job. Do you think an employer there would have had WC coverage? This illegal certainly knew enough to find an attorney and go after “compensation”. America is becoming the bleeding heart chump for anyone who “wants” everything it offers, but is either too stupid or too lazy to earn it the right way.
There appear to be two separate and distinct issues here (at least).
One – the employer should have provided a safe work environment and should have been carrying workers compensation. He should be dinged for not provided protections to his workers that are mandated by law. He should also be dinged for hiring illegals.
Two – the worker was illegal and as such is truly not entitled to the protections our citizens enjoy. It should take an illegal commiting another crime to get them deported, the crime of entering the country illegally should be enough.
I don’t support a guest worker program because in artificially depresses the wages in that industry, keeping prices artificially low and serves as a canker on business because that sector of society is allowed to routinely break the law. What kind of example does this set?
I do believe the constitution should be amended to read that not only must you be born on American soil to be a citizen but that at least one of your parents must also be a citizen. We nationalized the slaves years ago, time to bring the document up to speed for modern concerns.
I am all for fast deportations. Get them out of here. And fine the heck out of the companies that hire illegals.
And I don’t care if the process is painfully long for people to come in legally. Tough it out – millions do (we allow around 2 million immigrants a year legally). If you can’t do it right, don’t do it at all.
Oh, and I’m not a Republican or a conservative of any stripe. They’re the ones supporting the stupid “guest worker” programs; they’re the ones running the companies that hire illegals. It’s not just Democrats that are soft on illegal immigration, it’s all politicians.
well this crap of hiring illegal aliens would stop if state and federal would start fining these businesses that hire them. and for repeat offenders of this be but in jail. that’ll stop them from hiring those nasty *** mexicans. i as a us citizen born and raised here, can’t go get food stamps cuz i don’t have children, and i can’t get help with health coverage cuz i make too much money. BUT a ****ing illegal comes here, not only gets food stamps, but get’s free health coverage, and pops out 3 to 4 babies each here in the us, and they get to stay cuz their damn child is a us citizen. it’s bull….i feel for this contry if hillary gets in, bill is the reason we are in this situation.
No, Melanie, Bill Clinton is not why we are in this mess. We are in this mess because decades upon decades of administrations, Republican and Democrat, have failed to address the problem. Do you not recall that the last amnesty given to illegals was granted by the Great Republican Ronal Reagan? Clinton granted no amnesty. Clinton forwarded no guest worker policy. Clinton, like Bush before him, simply had no policy when it came to illegals.
Stop trying to pin this on a party people and realize there is no significant differnce between the two major parties. Republicans say that Democrats are “tax and spend” but the only budget surplus in recent history was under a Democrat. Republicans don’t spend less – in fact Bush has spent much more than anybody in recent memory – they just borrow to do it and leave it to a Democratic administration to actually pay the damn bills. Neither one truly wants small government. It was a Republican (Bush again) that was the first to add on a cabinet post in over 50 years. And tell me that the majority of America enjoys a lower tax burden now than 10 years ago – we don’t. And we won’t under Obama, Romney, Clinton, Huckabee or anyone else currently running – they don’t have the clout or the stones to change it.
Nor do they have the clout or the stones to truly stick with immigration policy. None of them. The Democrats will cite human interests and the Republicans will cite business interests. What they really mean is they don’t have the stones to make some people not like them.
Sorry Mike, but you are the misguided one. The illegals are the ones causing their own problems. What don’t you get about the word “illegal”? My brother-in-law is from Mexico – and he went thru the proper channels to get his U.S. citizenship. He also disagrees with allowing “illegals” into our Country. Maybe some of our generational welfare people that sit around watching Jerry Springer all day popping out babies for more welfare money should go to work for some of the farmers.
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What part of Illegal do people not understand?
Farmers don’t have to hire illegals – they can hire Mexicans who come here legally as migrant workers. I grew up on a farm that hired migrant workers and we worked beside them in the fields. I have nothing against the ones who do this legally. It is the illegal immigrants of whatever race–they might be from Cuba, India, etc, etc., they have reasons to come here and are hopeful for a better life for their children, but they do not deserve the same rights as American citizens. And it is not fair to us or them for these companies to hire them for lower wages.
I’m with you Jen.
society has a protocol that people are required to follow if they wish to become members of that society. In this case, it involves someone in this country illegally. As distateful as it may sound, their failure to have status in our society should prevent them from economic protections. They chose to take a risk by being here illegally. You have to earn rights and protections in any society and this person didn’t. He shouldn’t be abused, but neither should he have the same status, rights, and privileges that legal citizens have. He would have been no worse off had he statyed in his own pathetic country and was injured on the job. Do you think an employer there would have had WC coverage? This illegal certainly knew enough to find an attorney and go after “compensation”. America is becoming the bleeding heart chump for anyone who “wants” everything it offers, but is either too stupid or too lazy to earn it the right way.
If this were the 1950’s or 1960’s much of the commentary presented would be valid (in your eyes) because of the color of someone’s skin.
There appear to be two separate and distinct issues here (at least).
One – the employer should have provided a safe work environment and should have been carrying workers compensation. He should be dinged for not provided protections to his workers that are mandated by law. He should also be dinged for hiring illegals.
Two – the worker was illegal and as such is truly not entitled to the protections our citizens enjoy. It should take an illegal commiting another crime to get them deported, the crime of entering the country illegally should be enough.
I don’t support a guest worker program because in artificially depresses the wages in that industry, keeping prices artificially low and serves as a canker on business because that sector of society is allowed to routinely break the law. What kind of example does this set?
I do believe the constitution should be amended to read that not only must you be born on American soil to be a citizen but that at least one of your parents must also be a citizen. We nationalized the slaves years ago, time to bring the document up to speed for modern concerns.
I am all for fast deportations. Get them out of here. And fine the heck out of the companies that hire illegals.
And I don’t care if the process is painfully long for people to come in legally. Tough it out – millions do (we allow around 2 million immigrants a year legally). If you can’t do it right, don’t do it at all.
Oh, and I’m not a Republican or a conservative of any stripe. They’re the ones supporting the stupid “guest worker” programs; they’re the ones running the companies that hire illegals. It’s not just Democrats that are soft on illegal immigration, it’s all politicians.
Well said, lastbat!
well this crap of hiring illegal aliens would stop if state and federal would start fining these businesses that hire them. and for repeat offenders of this be but in jail. that’ll stop them from hiring those nasty *** mexicans. i as a us citizen born and raised here, can’t go get food stamps cuz i don’t have children, and i can’t get help with health coverage cuz i make too much money. BUT a ****ing illegal comes here, not only gets food stamps, but get’s free health coverage, and pops out 3 to 4 babies each here in the us, and they get to stay cuz their damn child is a us citizen. it’s bull….i feel for this contry if hillary gets in, bill is the reason we are in this situation.
No, Melanie, Bill Clinton is not why we are in this mess. We are in this mess because decades upon decades of administrations, Republican and Democrat, have failed to address the problem. Do you not recall that the last amnesty given to illegals was granted by the Great Republican Ronal Reagan? Clinton granted no amnesty. Clinton forwarded no guest worker policy. Clinton, like Bush before him, simply had no policy when it came to illegals.
Stop trying to pin this on a party people and realize there is no significant differnce between the two major parties. Republicans say that Democrats are “tax and spend” but the only budget surplus in recent history was under a Democrat. Republicans don’t spend less – in fact Bush has spent much more than anybody in recent memory – they just borrow to do it and leave it to a Democratic administration to actually pay the damn bills. Neither one truly wants small government. It was a Republican (Bush again) that was the first to add on a cabinet post in over 50 years. And tell me that the majority of America enjoys a lower tax burden now than 10 years ago – we don’t. And we won’t under Obama, Romney, Clinton, Huckabee or anyone else currently running – they don’t have the clout or the stones to change it.
Nor do they have the clout or the stones to truly stick with immigration policy. None of them. The Democrats will cite human interests and the Republicans will cite business interests. What they really mean is they don’t have the stones to make some people not like them.
Please forgive the typos. I’m trying to type much faster than I should.
Sorry Mike, but you are the misguided one. The illegals are the ones causing their own problems. What don’t you get about the word “illegal”? My brother-in-law is from Mexico – and he went thru the proper channels to get his U.S. citizenship. He also disagrees with allowing “illegals” into our Country. Maybe some of our generational welfare people that sit around watching Jerry Springer all day popping out babies for more welfare money should go to work for some of the farmers.