Kevin, I beg to differ…you ARE an idiot…you make a ton of assumptions with no real facts…just sanctimonious liberal bashing for no apparent reason as this is not really a liberal vs. conservative issue. it is just COMMON sense and some good old compassion.
The fee is clearly not that important to the survival of the FPD or else it would be larger. If this is a mandatory fee, put it on the tax bill and stop setting people up to make an error (or the bill get lost in the mail, or blow away in the mailbox or the check get misdirected or misposted, etc).
The fire chief is an idiot and deserves to be fired as well. He drags everyone out to the scene to watch the house burn up? How stupid is that? He could have put out the house fire and spared the burning field which could have been someone’s crops. What if something was in or under that field that could have blown up? How stupid is it not to put out the fire to avoid just what happened…the spread of additional fire? Not to mention the total lack of the “milk of human kindness…” but then, I suppose he is your relative since you obviously lack that as well.
And Lisa is correct; they had precedent to expect the service since the chief disobeyed the “10 year rule” once before. So the chief is DOUBLY stupid for compounding his error.
USE common sense; if the fee is mandatory, make it mandatory on the tax bill and cut out the crap.
Sheesh. Read the article. Everyone was out of the house when the fire dept arrived. There wasn’t any danger of loss of life. This was the homeowner’s doing, not the fire dept.
Sorry Sharon, but in FL I may have a reasonable expectation the police will enforce the law, but there is no cause of action if they do not.
Unwritten contracts, except expressed verbal ones, and reasonable expectation only carry a short distance. Here, the terms were clear: Pay your fee and the fire company will respond if and when needed.
Cassandra, it is childish to call someone an idiot that you don’t know and when you clearly don’t know all of the facts here. The homeowner Gene Cranick was quoted as saying “I thought they’d come out and put it out, even if you hadn’t paid your $75, but I was wrong,”. Sounds like this wasn’t a case of forgetting to pay but taking a chance and losing.
Next, on fixfulton.org it indicates that the city commission decided more than 10 years ago that firefighters would not be allowed to respond to a fire at a non-subscriber location. This was a longstanding community policy, not something unexpected. The Chief was following longstanding policy. If the community didn’t like the policy, they should have changed it a long time ago.
And last, while I am saddened at the loss of the animals, this family called 911 before the fire spread to their house. It sounds like they may have had time to move them to safety but didn’t do so. Someone should ask them why.
Thank you, Cassandra, for the kind words. I never mentioned liberal. But thanks for tying socialism with liberals. I knew it was there, but thanks for clarifying.
And like most liberals, when you can’t back up your record with facts, you resort to name calling.
Since you cannot have a civilized discussion, this will be my last reply to you.
If you watched the interview, the homeowner mentioned he offered to pay the full cost of the fire service (not just the $75 fee). He also did not “whine” about the insurance payout- he merely said the policy paid the amount of coverage he purchased, which wouldn’t be enough to rebuild but that they were “on the ball.”
It’s also not clear if the fire service would or would not have been able to prevent a total loss should they have chosen to respond.
What’s truly stunning however is the total lack of compassion in the American political discourse which is indisputably unprecedented in our history. As the homeowner mentioned, “people don’t think you can forget these kinds of things but sometimes you do.” He, on air, admitted his mistake and said he would live with the consequences. It seems to me this is exactly the attitude the compassionless on this board seem to demand, but they pile on him with comments like “boo hoo” and “deal with it.”
one thing to note, that the insurance company did pay off the loan of the house, knowing that it was a fire that destroyed her. interesting, because if that is the case, then why did the fire department not save the house? the insurance company would have paid for the service.
$75 although does not seem alot, but apparently was at the time of the payment required… but the county sounds like it is being served by the city, why doe the county not help with making better arrangements for emergencies like these… loss of life does matter, not matter if human or animal….
I understand public policy and all. But I just kept thinking as I read this, “the FIREFIGHTERS stood and watched the house burn down over a $75 fee?!?!” I’m sorry, but that is ridiculous. If someone (a person) had been trapped inside would they have stood by? And yes, $75 can be a lot of money, but put out the fire and then I’m sure someone will give you that money. Heck I would have donated it myself. What a sad world we live in.
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Kevin, I beg to differ…you ARE an idiot…you make a ton of assumptions with no real facts…just sanctimonious liberal bashing for no apparent reason as this is not really a liberal vs. conservative issue. it is just COMMON sense and some good old compassion.
The fee is clearly not that important to the survival of the FPD or else it would be larger. If this is a mandatory fee, put it on the tax bill and stop setting people up to make an error (or the bill get lost in the mail, or blow away in the mailbox or the check get misdirected or misposted, etc).
The fire chief is an idiot and deserves to be fired as well. He drags everyone out to the scene to watch the house burn up? How stupid is that? He could have put out the house fire and spared the burning field which could have been someone’s crops. What if something was in or under that field that could have blown up? How stupid is it not to put out the fire to avoid just what happened…the spread of additional fire? Not to mention the total lack of the “milk of human kindness…” but then, I suppose he is your relative since you obviously lack that as well.
And Lisa is correct; they had precedent to expect the service since the chief disobeyed the “10 year rule” once before. So the chief is DOUBLY stupid for compounding his error.
USE common sense; if the fee is mandatory, make it mandatory on the tax bill and cut out the crap.
Sheesh. Read the article. Everyone was out of the house when the fire dept arrived. There wasn’t any danger of loss of life. This was the homeowner’s doing, not the fire dept.
Sorry Sharon, but in FL I may have a reasonable expectation the police will enforce the law, but there is no cause of action if they do not.
Unwritten contracts, except expressed verbal ones, and reasonable expectation only carry a short distance. Here, the terms were clear: Pay your fee and the fire company will respond if and when needed.
Cassandra, it is childish to call someone an idiot that you don’t know and when you clearly don’t know all of the facts here. The homeowner Gene Cranick was quoted as saying “I thought they’d come out and put it out, even if you hadn’t paid your $75, but I was wrong,”. Sounds like this wasn’t a case of forgetting to pay but taking a chance and losing.
Next, on fixfulton.org it indicates that the city commission decided more than 10 years ago that firefighters would not be allowed to respond to a fire at a non-subscriber location. This was a longstanding community policy, not something unexpected. The Chief was following longstanding policy. If the community didn’t like the policy, they should have changed it a long time ago.
And last, while I am saddened at the loss of the animals, this family called 911 before the fire spread to their house. It sounds like they may have had time to move them to safety but didn’t do so. Someone should ask them why.
Thank you, Cassandra, for the kind words. I never mentioned liberal. But thanks for tying socialism with liberals. I knew it was there, but thanks for clarifying.
And like most liberals, when you can’t back up your record with facts, you resort to name calling.
Since you cannot have a civilized discussion, this will be my last reply to you.
Great post, Pat.
Though I don’t condone the irresponsible choices the Cranicks made, I respect them for owning up to the mistake and accepting the consequences.
If you watched the interview, the homeowner mentioned he offered to pay the full cost of the fire service (not just the $75 fee). He also did not “whine” about the insurance payout- he merely said the policy paid the amount of coverage he purchased, which wouldn’t be enough to rebuild but that they were “on the ball.”
It’s also not clear if the fire service would or would not have been able to prevent a total loss should they have chosen to respond.
What’s truly stunning however is the total lack of compassion in the American political discourse which is indisputably unprecedented in our history. As the homeowner mentioned, “people don’t think you can forget these kinds of things but sometimes you do.” He, on air, admitted his mistake and said he would live with the consequences. It seems to me this is exactly the attitude the compassionless on this board seem to demand, but they pile on him with comments like “boo hoo” and “deal with it.”
one thing to note, that the insurance company did pay off the loan of the house, knowing that it was a fire that destroyed her. interesting, because if that is the case, then why did the fire department not save the house? the insurance company would have paid for the service.
$75 although does not seem alot, but apparently was at the time of the payment required… but the county sounds like it is being served by the city, why doe the county not help with making better arrangements for emergencies like these… loss of life does matter, not matter if human or animal….
Sigh… How can I ever respond to such eloquent writing? I’m overwhelmed by the level of maturity you exhibit.
I’m so glad I don’t live in TN.
I understand public policy and all. But I just kept thinking as I read this, “the FIREFIGHTERS stood and watched the house burn down over a $75 fee?!?!” I’m sorry, but that is ridiculous. If someone (a person) had been trapped inside would they have stood by? And yes, $75 can be a lot of money, but put out the fire and then I’m sure someone will give you that money. Heck I would have donated it myself. What a sad world we live in.