As yesterday afternoon -as many CG readers did- I got a “Reader Comments Notification” message with an e-mail copy sent by Mr. Perez to Mr. Crawford, that denounced Crawford and Company’s negative to receive a simple phone call from Crawford Chile…This morning while I was willing to send an e-mail copy to a friend, this posted comment was not on…
The question is…
Is Crawford and Company censuring this column, in order to manipulate the public information that is given to most of the NYSE share holders and employees that lately are following this Crawford’s INTEGRITY article posted comments…?
Did any one at Crawford and Company herd about the definition of INTEGRITY, before NYAG Eliot Spitzer started his Crawford and Company investigation…?
Censure is not an ethic thing to do.
Just for Crawford’s information…Ethic and Integrity are freedom related concepts.
America does not censure information.
We hate censure…!
That is why we Americans do have a “Freedom of Information Act”.
Freedom is our way of life.
—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados)
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Crawford & Company´s Integrity NYAG E. Spitzer´s investigation….
Estimado Alvaro,
Gracias por tu e/mail.
En este momento estoy fuera de Chile en viaje de trabajo. LLego este Jueves en la manana. Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde? O el viernes en la manana?
—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile ; Eliot Spitzer NYAG WEB TEAM
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados) ; Thomas W. Crawford (Sept. 2004 Crawford & Company CEO) ; Jeffrey Bowman (Crawford Intl. Div. Pres.)
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde?
Sr. Perez,
Le agradecere que por este tema se dirija al Sr Javier Carvallo o Emilio Saurie.
Estas son las personas a cargo de este tema.
Atentamente,
Leon Larrain
—–Mensaje original—–
De: UNACO Chile [mailto:unaco.chile@itn.cl]
Enviado el: lun 24/01/2005 15:51
Para: Larrain, Leon; Eliot Spitzer NYAG WEB TEAM
CC: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados); Thomas W. Crawford (Sept. 2004 Crawford & Company CEO); Jeffrey Bowman (Crawford Intl. Div. Pres.)
Asunto: Re: Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde?
Te suguiero que aproveches que estas alla mismo en “gringolandia” y pidas instrucciones para resolver legal y “CORRECTAMENTE” pero en forma definitiva…. este añoso conflicto, que se ha transformado hoy…, en delito penalizado por Sarbanes Oxley.
La base de las negociaciones y los montos del “settlement” estan en poder de Thomas Crawford y de Jessie Crawford desde hace mucho tiempo. Asi es que solo resta la anuencia de ellos, para que tu te sientes con mis abogados a dejar la transaccion cerrada definitivamente anulando los juicios “truchos” emprendidos “a la chilena” por Javier Carvallo y sus muchachos de Crawford THG Carvallo S.A.. Eso no nos tomara mas de 10 minutos en un computador frente a un Notario.
Habla con los gringos, trae las lucas, y firmemos los traspasos.
Simple y rapido.
Cualquier cosa distinta de eso….es seguir “payaseando” por las puras arvejas, otro medio siglo.
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—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados) ; Larrain, Leon
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Crawford & Company´s Integrity NYAG E. Spitzer´s investigation….
Estimado Alvaro,
Gracias por tu e/mail.
En este momento estoy fuera de Chile en viaje de trabajo. LLego este Jueves en la manana. Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde? O el viernes en la manana?
What a case we have here my friends…!
Too bad I do not read Spanish to be able to understand what has happened lately, I would have loved to be able to follow this new feedback.
Why did this feedback discussion suddenly turned in to Spanish language…?
Can someone help me with a simple English short version on what has happened here lately?.
Why did Baker Mckenzie attorneys network got in this discussion…?
It seems that Crawford & Company have been caught in something real dark and dirty here…
If this article has been around since December 23rd 2004, (the only one that old in this CsGs Most Popular list), it is kind of obvious that Eliot Spitzer is looking after Crawford & Company’s integrity.
No doubt about it.
So obvious…, that Crawford and Company has not reflect its surprising “2.004 Financial Gains” in the value of its NYSE shares CRD-A & CRD-B.
It was time that this rip-offs were investigated by someone as bright and aggressive as Spitzer is.
Now…It looks like the US SEC has also opened an investigation file against Crawford and Company. That’s even better.
Is this fellow in Chile saying here that, instead of legally buying his whole Crawford Chile two companies package in early 1992, thirteen years ago, Crawford and Company Atlanta GA., decided to invest all this years of man hours and hundreds of thousands or even millions of US dollars, to simply try to take his Crawford Chile operations away from this local fellow, for free, instead of getting them through a simple transaction and not investing thirteen years of effort in continuous useless legal actions?.
And after thirteen years of hard work, useless legal actions results, hundreds of thousands or even millions of US dollars spent in such stupidity, and finally driving the Crawford and Company trade mark, name, prestige and integrity to the edge, while having the company now under investigation by the governmental regulatory bureau NYAG Eliot Spitzer and US SEC , this Crawford and Company CEO and President of the (apparently non official legal existing office) in Chile, Mr. Javier Carvallo is today willing to get in return and as a legal penalty, from Mr. Perez, by an other useless eternal Lawsuit, only eighty thousand US dollars?
Is that it?
Does this Carvallo dude have any idea of the millions of US dollars that his thirteen years of his stupidity caused in loses to us NYSE CRD-a and CRD-b shareholders, in the last three months, since the Decembers 2004 NYAG Eliot Spitzer subpoenas ?.
Does he have any idea of the consequences of what he has done?
My dear God… Who is this primitive monkey…?
All that war game for simple eighty thousand US dollars..?
Did someone measured Mr. Carvallo´s IQ before getting such an animal into the company as a CEO and President of the Chilean operation?
Something here doesn’t make any sense.
All this mess, and millions in loses for simple eighty thousand US dollars..?
Who is responsible of having such an imbecile in Crawford and Company payroll?
It looks like this Tom Crawford dude, is a real S.O.B. that uses every possible swindler’s un ethical technique to get his goal here.
Does anyone know how many times has Crawford and Company done this Crawford Chile kind of rip-off..?.
Someone will have to finally develop the truth on how many of the 700 offices in 67 countries really are part of Crawford & Company´s legal operation, and how many of them are only “fronting” hidden operations in order to artificially increase NYSE shares value.
A hard bone that will not last for ever under Spitzer´s eye.
Mr. Crawford…! You shall Watch your back!
DOW:
I completely agree on your Spitzer´s Crawford & Company integrity investigation summary.
One more thing to be added…
That primate, Crawford & Company in Chile CEO and President, Mr Carvallo, is submitted to Atlanta’s headquarters’. Therefore, even though it is true that this ape’s IQ must be the size of a peanut, someone in Atlanta allowed such stupidity to happen. I guess it was Jeff Bowman’s decision.
Someone will have to pay the millions of dollars that such move become after this whole time.
18,000 dollars against millions in three months stock loses, is the point here.
No one knows how much will this whole thing finally cost, after Spitzer and the SEC are done with Crawford & Company.
AIG paid 850 millions after Spitzer´s investigation, and tree of its ex-top executives are today pained guilty.
Marsh quote was 750 millions and four ex-top executive were wounded.
A new interview with Crawford & Company´s CEO Mr. Thomas Crawford might be needed to clarify on this thing, and make him answer the same few questions that this original article made to him last December 23, 2004.
This time though …As we say here in Chile, “to much water has passed under the bridge”.
With all this Insurance Journal-Claims Guide readers accumulated feedback posted comments, Mr. Crawford will sure have some troubles trying on maintaining his original position.
Javier Carvallo…?
Crawford Chile…?
Truth, reliability and integrity are related concepts that this Crawford & Company people have never head before NYAG Eliot Spitzer 2004 current investigation in Crawford Chile´s fraudulent operation .
Maria Isabel Brown Garcia-Huidobro.
Agente de Seguros.
ANS
Chile.
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As yesterday afternoon -as many CG readers did- I got a “Reader Comments Notification” message with an e-mail copy sent by Mr. Perez to Mr. Crawford, that denounced Crawford and Company’s negative to receive a simple phone call from Crawford Chile…This morning while I was willing to send an e-mail copy to a friend, this posted comment was not on…
The question is…
Is Crawford and Company censuring this column, in order to manipulate the public information that is given to most of the NYSE share holders and employees that lately are following this Crawford’s INTEGRITY article posted comments…?
Did any one at Crawford and Company herd about the definition of INTEGRITY, before NYAG Eliot Spitzer started his Crawford and Company investigation…?
Censure is not an ethic thing to do.
Just for Crawford’s information…Ethic and Integrity are freedom related concepts.
America does not censure information.
We hate censure…!
That is why we Americans do have a “Freedom of Information Act”.
Freedom is our way of life.
Something real dirty is hidden here…I must say.
William Thompson.
Atlanta. GA.
—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados)
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Crawford & Company´s Integrity NYAG E. Spitzer´s investigation….
Estimado Alvaro,
Gracias por tu e/mail.
En este momento estoy fuera de Chile en viaje de trabajo. LLego este Jueves en la manana. Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde? O el viernes en la manana?
Muchos saludos.
Leon Larrain
—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile ; Eliot Spitzer NYAG WEB TEAM
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados) ; Thomas W. Crawford (Sept. 2004 Crawford & Company CEO) ; Jeffrey Bowman (Crawford Intl. Div. Pres.)
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde?
Sr. Perez,
Le agradecere que por este tema se dirija al Sr Javier Carvallo o Emilio Saurie.
Estas son las personas a cargo de este tema.
Atentamente,
Leon Larrain
—–Mensaje original—–
De: UNACO Chile [mailto:unaco.chile@itn.cl]
Enviado el: lun 24/01/2005 15:51
Para: Larrain, Leon; Eliot Spitzer NYAG WEB TEAM
CC: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados); Thomas W. Crawford (Sept. 2004 Crawford & Company CEO); Jeffrey Bowman (Crawford Intl. Div. Pres.)
Asunto: Re: Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde?
Leon:
Disculpa mi sinceridad a este respecto, pero les vuelvo a insistir -asi como alguna vez lo hice con Fernando Saenz de Santa Maria- ; que en la medida de que tengas un poder especial notarial, valido, otorgado por Thomas Crawford, para representar los intereses de Crawford & Company de los EE.UU. en Chile, en los conflictos de intereses con el Sr. Alvaro Pérez Castro, Crawford Liquidadores de Seguros Limitada y Crawford Chile Liquidadores de Seguros Limitada, actualmente en investigacion por el NYAG Sr. Eliot Spitzer, cualquier reunion entre nosotros sera otra perdida de tiempo, tal y como ha ocurrido por los ultimos 13 años con el “chanta del Javier Carvallo”.
Te suguiero que aproveches que estas alla mismo en “gringolandia” y pidas instrucciones para resolver legal y “CORRECTAMENTE” pero en forma definitiva…. este añoso conflicto, que se ha transformado hoy…, en delito penalizado por Sarbanes Oxley.
La base de las negociaciones y los montos del “settlement” estan en poder de Thomas Crawford y de Jessie Crawford desde hace mucho tiempo. Asi es que solo resta la anuencia de ellos, para que tu te sientes con mis abogados a dejar la transaccion cerrada definitivamente anulando los juicios “truchos” emprendidos “a la chilena” por Javier Carvallo y sus muchachos de Crawford THG Carvallo S.A.. Eso no nos tomara mas de 10 minutos en un computador frente a un Notario.
Habla con los gringos, trae las lucas, y firmemos los traspasos.
Simple y rapido.
Cualquier cosa distinta de eso….es seguir “payaseando” por las puras arvejas, otro medio siglo.
Mejor…Llama a tu cliente…El Sr. Thomas Crawford, Presidente de http://www.crawfordandcompany.cl
Nuevamente…:
Disculpa mi franqueza…
Pero es que este tema, de seguir “sacando las castañas con la mano del gato” ya nos tiene a todos “chatos”.
Un saludo desde “La Patria”.
Alvaro Pérez Castro.
Gerente General.
http://www.unaco.cl
http://www.unaco-chile.cl
http://www.crawfordchile.cl
http://www.crawford-unaco.cl
Avda. Tobalaba Nº 381. Providencia, Santiago.
Chile.
Telefonos & Fax: (56-2) 243-3677 / (56-2) 335-0275.
Celular: (56) 9-237-3426.-
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CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information in this e-mail and/or attachments is intended to be confidential and only for use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and/or the issuer. If you are not the intended recipient, any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited and sanctioned by law.
—————————————
—– Original Message —–
From: Larrain, Leon
To: UNACO Chile
Cc: Juan Adolfo Carlevarino (Zuric Abogados) ; Larrain, Leon
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Crawford & Company´s Integrity NYAG E. Spitzer´s investigation….
Estimado Alvaro,
Gracias por tu e/mail.
En este momento estoy fuera de Chile en viaje de trabajo. LLego este Jueves en la manana. Podemos reunirnos el Jueves en la tarde? O el viernes en la manana?
Muchos saludos.
Leon Larrain
Wow…!
What a case we have here my friends…!
Too bad I do not read Spanish to be able to understand what has happened lately, I would have loved to be able to follow this new feedback.
Why did this feedback discussion suddenly turned in to Spanish language…?
Can someone help me with a simple English short version on what has happened here lately?.
Why did Baker Mckenzie attorneys network got in this discussion…?
It seems that Crawford & Company have been caught in something real dark and dirty here…
Good story…very good one..!
William Thompson.
Atlanta. GA.
If this article has been around since December 23rd 2004, (the only one that old in this CsGs Most Popular list), it is kind of obvious that Eliot Spitzer is looking after Crawford & Company’s integrity.
No doubt about it.
So obvious…, that Crawford and Company has not reflect its surprising “2.004 Financial Gains” in the value of its NYSE shares CRD-A & CRD-B.
It was time that this rip-offs were investigated by someone as bright and aggressive as Spitzer is.
Now…It looks like the US SEC has also opened an investigation file against Crawford and Company. That’s even better.
What a case to be followed…!
G. Brown.
N.Y.
Let me see if I get this whole thing right.
Is this fellow in Chile saying here that, instead of legally buying his whole Crawford Chile two companies package in early 1992, thirteen years ago, Crawford and Company Atlanta GA., decided to invest all this years of man hours and hundreds of thousands or even millions of US dollars, to simply try to take his Crawford Chile operations away from this local fellow, for free, instead of getting them through a simple transaction and not investing thirteen years of effort in continuous useless legal actions?.
And after thirteen years of hard work, useless legal actions results, hundreds of thousands or even millions of US dollars spent in such stupidity, and finally driving the Crawford and Company trade mark, name, prestige and integrity to the edge, while having the company now under investigation by the governmental regulatory bureau NYAG Eliot Spitzer and US SEC , this Crawford and Company CEO and President of the (apparently non official legal existing office) in Chile, Mr. Javier Carvallo is today willing to get in return and as a legal penalty, from Mr. Perez, by an other useless eternal Lawsuit, only eighty thousand US dollars?
Is that it?
Does this Carvallo dude have any idea of the millions of US dollars that his thirteen years of his stupidity caused in loses to us NYSE CRD-a and CRD-b shareholders, in the last three months, since the Decembers 2004 NYAG Eliot Spitzer subpoenas ?.
Does he have any idea of the consequences of what he has done?
My dear God… Who is this primitive monkey…?
All that war game for simple eighty thousand US dollars..?
Did someone measured Mr. Carvallo´s IQ before getting such an animal into the company as a CEO and President of the Chilean operation?
Something here doesn’t make any sense.
All this mess, and millions in loses for simple eighty thousand US dollars..?
Who is responsible of having such an imbecile in Crawford and Company payroll?
DOW.
It looks like this Tom Crawford dude, is a real S.O.B. that uses every possible swindler’s un ethical technique to get his goal here.
Does anyone know how many times has Crawford and Company done this Crawford Chile kind of rip-off..?.
Someone will have to finally develop the truth on how many of the 700 offices in 67 countries really are part of Crawford & Company´s legal operation, and how many of them are only “fronting” hidden operations in order to artificially increase NYSE shares value.
A hard bone that will not last for ever under Spitzer´s eye.
Mr. Crawford…! You shall Watch your back!
Eliot Spitzer is behind you…!
It looks like this time you have been exposed.
G.Brown
NY
DOW:
I completely agree on your Spitzer´s Crawford & Company integrity investigation summary.
One more thing to be added…
That primate, Crawford & Company in Chile CEO and President, Mr Carvallo, is submitted to Atlanta’s headquarters’. Therefore, even though it is true that this ape’s IQ must be the size of a peanut, someone in Atlanta allowed such stupidity to happen. I guess it was Jeff Bowman’s decision.
Someone will have to pay the millions of dollars that such move become after this whole time.
18,000 dollars against millions in three months stock loses, is the point here.
No one knows how much will this whole thing finally cost, after Spitzer and the SEC are done with Crawford & Company.
AIG paid 850 millions after Spitzer´s investigation, and tree of its ex-top executives are today pained guilty.
Marsh quote was 750 millions and four ex-top executive were wounded.
Liz
A Chupallas…
Tremenda cagadita que te mandaste “Tio Javier”.
¿Como chuchas vai a justificar esta caseputas que les dejaste a los gringos de Crawford…?
Y todo por 18.000 dolares…?
Estai mas huevon de la cabeza que nunca.
Los gringos te van a cortar las bolas en trozitos, si es que no te las cortaron ya.
Choche Valenzuela.
A new interview with Crawford & Company´s CEO Mr. Thomas Crawford might be needed to clarify on this thing, and make him answer the same few questions that this original article made to him last December 23, 2004.
This time though …As we say here in Chile, “to much water has passed under the bridge”.
With all this Insurance Journal-Claims Guide readers accumulated feedback posted comments, Mr. Crawford will sure have some troubles trying on maintaining his original position.
Javier Carvallo…?
Crawford Chile…?
Truth, reliability and integrity are related concepts that this Crawford & Company people have never head before NYAG Eliot Spitzer 2004 current investigation in Crawford Chile´s fraudulent operation .
Maria Isabel Brown Garcia-Huidobro.
Agente de Seguros.
ANS
Chile.