Sorry, Sam. May have jumped the gun on my post. This law should apply to ANY breeds who are considered dangerous and prone to attack. Question is, who decides what breeds the law should apply to?
Pit Bulls can be wonderful, affectionate family pets if properly trained and socialized by an experienced dog owner, but dogs owned by responsible owners aren’t usually the ones we hear about in the news. Pit bull fighting often goes hand in hand with gangs, drugs and other criminal activity – folks you would no expect to be responsible dog owners. Good luck getting a law like this enforced, though. The dog owners most likely to violate pit bull laws are probably have bigger legal entanglements. A neighbor’s pit bull escaped from it’s pen inside their garage and mauled my aunt’s Maltese. When the police report was filed, we learned the dog owner was a “person of interest” on murder and drug charges. Needless to say, the fact that he failed to have proper liability insurance (required by city ordinance) on his pit bull was the least of the police dept. concerns. My aunt was left with a large vet bill and a dog that sadly didn’t survive.
My cougar can beat your pit bull. I hope we see some real suggestions here to solve the growing problem of biting dogs whose owners have no assets. Note! Pit bulls are not the only dogs that should be on this list. If you told me you had a pit bull I would not find it easy to place your liability insurance. If you didn’t tell me when asked the application was fraululent and coverage would not be there when needed.
The only true solution is prevention and that means restricting ownership of these beasts to rural areas where they can’t come into contact with anyone except their owners. There is no argument that everyone who owns a dog should have liability insurance. In the cases of pit bull and to a lesser degree Rotweiller “attacks”, no amount of insurance is an acceptable alternative for banning animals with a know, aggressive propensity. Look at the type of people who must have a Pit Bull and you’ll see that having insurance isn’t one of their priorities. Like Dread, I have handled many dogbites in my 25 year claims career and NONE compare to the few Pit Bull Attacks in terms of severity of injury. These animals might be fine 99% of the time, but no human should have to be exposed to a ticking time-bomb. It simply isn’t worth the risk and while it may be someone’s “right” to own one, with that right comes the “responsibility” to protect others from harm the animal may cause. Pit Bull owners can’t protect anybody, including themselves, when one of these things “goes off”. While it would be un-popular with some, the breed should be banned in all but rural settings.
Everyone keeps missing the point. The fact is that a Pit Bull doesn’t just bite……… it ATTACKS and continues to MAUL the victim. These dogs are genetically flawed. They may be docile for years and something just sets them off. This is not a RISK, its a PROBABILITY and people shouldn’t have to be exposed to it just because a few must have the breed. Just look at where you find most of these animals and who owns them. Somebody mentioned it before, it’s worth mentioning again. PREVENTION, not after the fact insurance is the issue. Insurance doesn’t protect the public. It pays medical bills. It doesn’t remove the psychological and physical scars of a Pit Bull ATTACK (not just a bite). It seems as a society we’re willing to restrict where child molesters live because they have the propensity to molest, but we lack the fortitude to control an animal over its propensit to ATTACK AND MAUL. This should be a no-brainer and isn’t worth discussing at this length. And for those bleeding hearts who think banning the breed is an erosion of freedom………too bad. Your values are messed up.
Ohian,
I am disgusted by your statements. To your way of thinking let’s look at this: if you do your research there is a certain segment of the human population that commit the most crime-a certain race, age and gender. Perhaps they should be banned from all but rural areas as well. If we were going to do away with entire populations because of a few bad apples certainly the Germans would have been exterminated after WW II. And if you are one of those “it’s just a dog” people then there is nothing I can say to you because that type of ignorance will never be swayed.
As for “look atthe type of people” who own these dogs-my entire family does-my father is a teacher, my brother is a network engineer and I work for a law firm. Would you like to comment on that? For the record none of our dogs have ever even nipped a person and blind ignorance like yours is what allows the Michael Vick’s of the world to commit these atrocity towards these animals. Would you blame an abused child for lashing out? We need to protect these and all innocent animals from the evil and arrogance of man.
As far as insurance it should be across the board-every dog owner or none.
Thank you for your comments. They are well thougth out-intelligent-compassionate and right on. Unfortunately you are one of the only people on this posting that have any idea what they are talking about.
When one of those dogs attacks someone, maybe a family member, your attitude will change 180 degrees. Until then, there is no talking sense to you and illustrating the reason people should not put dogs before people.
I’ve seen many people like you thru the years and you’re all the same. Until it affects you.
Food luck.
Samgirl: I’m disgusted by YOUR comments. Your family may be the exception to the rule but objective evidence will support that thisk breed is a favority of a certain unsavory segment of our society. I’m also disgusted at your quick trigger finger to jump on someone who has a view contrary to yours. You missed point in your blind barrage. DON’T CONFUSE ANIMALS WITH PEOPLE. I’m talking about a breed of ANIMAL. Your mis-guided example extends it to human issues. Grow up. Here’s something for you to ponder. Of all the breeds of animals in the world, why do a few people feel compelled to select a Pit Bull with it’s reputation for being a time bomb.
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Sorry, Sam. May have jumped the gun on my post. This law should apply to ANY breeds who are considered dangerous and prone to attack. Question is, who decides what breeds the law should apply to?
Pit Bulls can be wonderful, affectionate family pets if properly trained and socialized by an experienced dog owner, but dogs owned by responsible owners aren’t usually the ones we hear about in the news. Pit bull fighting often goes hand in hand with gangs, drugs and other criminal activity – folks you would no expect to be responsible dog owners. Good luck getting a law like this enforced, though. The dog owners most likely to violate pit bull laws are probably have bigger legal entanglements. A neighbor’s pit bull escaped from it’s pen inside their garage and mauled my aunt’s Maltese. When the police report was filed, we learned the dog owner was a “person of interest” on murder and drug charges. Needless to say, the fact that he failed to have proper liability insurance (required by city ordinance) on his pit bull was the least of the police dept. concerns. My aunt was left with a large vet bill and a dog that sadly didn’t survive.
My cougar can beat your pit bull. I hope we see some real suggestions here to solve the growing problem of biting dogs whose owners have no assets. Note! Pit bulls are not the only dogs that should be on this list. If you told me you had a pit bull I would not find it easy to place your liability insurance. If you didn’t tell me when asked the application was fraululent and coverage would not be there when needed.
The only true solution is prevention and that means restricting ownership of these beasts to rural areas where they can’t come into contact with anyone except their owners. There is no argument that everyone who owns a dog should have liability insurance. In the cases of pit bull and to a lesser degree Rotweiller “attacks”, no amount of insurance is an acceptable alternative for banning animals with a know, aggressive propensity. Look at the type of people who must have a Pit Bull and you’ll see that having insurance isn’t one of their priorities. Like Dread, I have handled many dogbites in my 25 year claims career and NONE compare to the few Pit Bull Attacks in terms of severity of injury. These animals might be fine 99% of the time, but no human should have to be exposed to a ticking time-bomb. It simply isn’t worth the risk and while it may be someone’s “right” to own one, with that right comes the “responsibility” to protect others from harm the animal may cause. Pit Bull owners can’t protect anybody, including themselves, when one of these things “goes off”. While it would be un-popular with some, the breed should be banned in all but rural settings.
Everyone keeps missing the point. The fact is that a Pit Bull doesn’t just bite……… it ATTACKS and continues to MAUL the victim. These dogs are genetically flawed. They may be docile for years and something just sets them off. This is not a RISK, its a PROBABILITY and people shouldn’t have to be exposed to it just because a few must have the breed. Just look at where you find most of these animals and who owns them. Somebody mentioned it before, it’s worth mentioning again. PREVENTION, not after the fact insurance is the issue. Insurance doesn’t protect the public. It pays medical bills. It doesn’t remove the psychological and physical scars of a Pit Bull ATTACK (not just a bite). It seems as a society we’re willing to restrict where child molesters live because they have the propensity to molest, but we lack the fortitude to control an animal over its propensit to ATTACK AND MAUL. This should be a no-brainer and isn’t worth discussing at this length. And for those bleeding hearts who think banning the breed is an erosion of freedom………too bad. Your values are messed up.
Ohian,
I am disgusted by your statements. To your way of thinking let’s look at this: if you do your research there is a certain segment of the human population that commit the most crime-a certain race, age and gender. Perhaps they should be banned from all but rural areas as well. If we were going to do away with entire populations because of a few bad apples certainly the Germans would have been exterminated after WW II. And if you are one of those “it’s just a dog” people then there is nothing I can say to you because that type of ignorance will never be swayed.
As for “look atthe type of people” who own these dogs-my entire family does-my father is a teacher, my brother is a network engineer and I work for a law firm. Would you like to comment on that? For the record none of our dogs have ever even nipped a person and blind ignorance like yours is what allows the Michael Vick’s of the world to commit these atrocity towards these animals. Would you blame an abused child for lashing out? We need to protect these and all innocent animals from the evil and arrogance of man.
As far as insurance it should be across the board-every dog owner or none.
Thank you for your comments. They are well thougth out-intelligent-compassionate and right on. Unfortunately you are one of the only people on this posting that have any idea what they are talking about.
Sorry-that last message was for dog lover.
When one of those dogs attacks someone, maybe a family member, your attitude will change 180 degrees. Until then, there is no talking sense to you and illustrating the reason people should not put dogs before people.
I’ve seen many people like you thru the years and you’re all the same. Until it affects you.
Food luck.
Samgirl: I’m disgusted by YOUR comments. Your family may be the exception to the rule but objective evidence will support that thisk breed is a favority of a certain unsavory segment of our society. I’m also disgusted at your quick trigger finger to jump on someone who has a view contrary to yours. You missed point in your blind barrage. DON’T CONFUSE ANIMALS WITH PEOPLE. I’m talking about a breed of ANIMAL. Your mis-guided example extends it to human issues. Grow up. Here’s something for you to ponder. Of all the breeds of animals in the world, why do a few people feel compelled to select a Pit Bull with it’s reputation for being a time bomb.