Possible solution: Award the plaintiff nominal damages of $1.00, then have the court add punitive damages of $62.7 quadrillion, then fine the plaintiff $65.4 octillion for being clumsy, then tax both plaintiff, defendant and their attorneys 9,000% and in no time at all both the right wing wacko and the left wing wacko politicians will have all the money that has ever been minted and can then proceed to bring tepid utopia to the unwashed masses, who obviously cannot manage a hot cup of coffee without assistance. End of story.
People will do anything these days for money…Sheeesh!!! Unless the person specified iced tea or non-hot tea, what did they expect to get? Seriously, get a job or something..
I Googled the plaintiff’s name and found that she was a “Beach Tennis USA National Women’s Finalist in 2005 and 2006”. An athlete of some sort. Maybe she really did get injured in a way that was disruptive to her life. Maybe that particular Starbuck’s did serve near-boiling tea despite the warning that the old McDonald’s case should have provided them. You don’t really know the facts.
Just recognize where this took place. I swear I have seen people deliberately spill hot beverages on themselves to bring such suits. NYC also has a jerk for a mayor. Ever been in a Starbucks? Full of hippies and liberals; that is redundant isn’t it?
“Ever been in a Starbucks? Full of hippies and liberals”
I know I didn’t just read that statement. And here I thought Starbucks was full of pretentious conservatives who sat around laying judgment on everyone else. Go figure.
A good conservative would never pay $5 for a cup of coffee. Overly hot coffee or tea should not be served to anyone, with the exception of any bespeckled person with prematurely gray hair pulled back into a very tight ponytail wearing a tie-dyed T shirt, dirty jeans, and birkenstock sandals who just got off a recumbent bike, removed his.her helmet and hiked up to the counter for some “green” tea grown on an organic mountain side untouched by human activity.
We seem to be engaged in a left-right discussion here. Lets discuss some facts instead. One writer did mention that we know very little about the case. What we know does sound pretty hokey, however. In the interest of full disclosure, my wife wants her coffee very hot, and complains if it is not (I don’t drink coffee).
One writer talks about shops double-heating their coffee. I find this term interesting. You may recall that water boils at 212 degrees Farenheit (100 Celsius) at which point it turns to steam and floats away in the air. The only way to get the water to a temperature higher than that is to pressurize it, as in a boiler. If you let the pressure off, the water is at 212 degrees and the hotter stuff leaves in a cloud of steam. A boiler explosion is an example of a lot of water going to room air pressure quickly. I almost lost a leg to a steam explosion. I can discuss burns with anyone who has the stomach for it.
You can boil water in a coffee pot and take it off the stove and put it on a 2200 degree liquid steel ladle to double- heat the water, and it when you pour whatever water remains in the pot into a cup, it will be 212 degrees Farenheit. If you decide to triple-heat it using a white hot burning magnesium bar, the remaining water will still be 212 degrees Farenheit. Liberal water and conservative water boil at the same temperature. Even Al Gore cannot change that.
If a Starbucks employee did not throw the hot liquid on the customer, it is not Starbucks’ fault. If I cut myself eating a steak in a restaurant, it it the fault of the restaurant or the knife manufacturer? What a person does with a product after they purchase it is not the fault of the seller.
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Possible solution: Award the plaintiff nominal damages of $1.00, then have the court add punitive damages of $62.7 quadrillion, then fine the plaintiff $65.4 octillion for being clumsy, then tax both plaintiff, defendant and their attorneys 9,000% and in no time at all both the right wing wacko and the left wing wacko politicians will have all the money that has ever been minted and can then proceed to bring tepid utopia to the unwashed masses, who obviously cannot manage a hot cup of coffee without assistance. End of story.
People will do anything these days for money…Sheeesh!!! Unless the person specified iced tea or non-hot tea, what did they expect to get? Seriously, get a job or something..
I Googled the plaintiff’s name and found that she was a “Beach Tennis USA National Women’s Finalist in 2005 and 2006”. An athlete of some sort. Maybe she really did get injured in a way that was disruptive to her life. Maybe that particular Starbuck’s did serve near-boiling tea despite the warning that the old McDonald’s case should have provided them. You don’t really know the facts.
Just recognize where this took place. I swear I have seen people deliberately spill hot beverages on themselves to bring such suits. NYC also has a jerk for a mayor. Ever been in a Starbucks? Full of hippies and liberals; that is redundant isn’t it?
…..Hmmmm nope, not convinced.
As my grandfather used to say “They may be selling it, but I’m not buying.”
“Ever been in a Starbucks? Full of hippies and liberals”
I know I didn’t just read that statement. And here I thought Starbucks was full of pretentious conservatives who sat around laying judgment on everyone else. Go figure.
A good conservative would never pay $5 for a cup of coffee. Overly hot coffee or tea should not be served to anyone, with the exception of any bespeckled person with prematurely gray hair pulled back into a very tight ponytail wearing a tie-dyed T shirt, dirty jeans, and birkenstock sandals who just got off a recumbent bike, removed his.her helmet and hiked up to the counter for some “green” tea grown on an organic mountain side untouched by human activity.
Obviously you’ve never heard someone order a double caf half caf decaf latte expresso with lowfat cream and a shot of equal.
We seem to be engaged in a left-right discussion here. Lets discuss some facts instead. One writer did mention that we know very little about the case. What we know does sound pretty hokey, however. In the interest of full disclosure, my wife wants her coffee very hot, and complains if it is not (I don’t drink coffee).
One writer talks about shops double-heating their coffee. I find this term interesting. You may recall that water boils at 212 degrees Farenheit (100 Celsius) at which point it turns to steam and floats away in the air. The only way to get the water to a temperature higher than that is to pressurize it, as in a boiler. If you let the pressure off, the water is at 212 degrees and the hotter stuff leaves in a cloud of steam. A boiler explosion is an example of a lot of water going to room air pressure quickly. I almost lost a leg to a steam explosion. I can discuss burns with anyone who has the stomach for it.
You can boil water in a coffee pot and take it off the stove and put it on a 2200 degree liquid steel ladle to double- heat the water, and it when you pour whatever water remains in the pot into a cup, it will be 212 degrees Farenheit. If you decide to triple-heat it using a white hot burning magnesium bar, the remaining water will still be 212 degrees Farenheit. Liberal water and conservative water boil at the same temperature. Even Al Gore cannot change that.
If a Starbucks employee did not throw the hot liquid on the customer, it is not Starbucks’ fault. If I cut myself eating a steak in a restaurant, it it the fault of the restaurant or the knife manufacturer? What a person does with a product after they purchase it is not the fault of the seller.