Agree with what you say but please don’t further the propaganda of the McDonalds coffee burn case. McDonalds is no better than Exxon. 700 complaints that the coffee was excessively hot and exceeded industry standards that McDonalds intentionally ignored to make more profits even though they acknowledged some people would be maimed (which is why the jury hit them for only one day’s of coffee profits of 1 million in punitives). All she wanted was her med bills of 50k paid. They offered zero. 74 yr old with skin grafts and horrible pain after being scalded by 180 degree liquid. If you want even more horrendous details of that case (which you will never get from the Chamber of Commerce propoganda machine) pls got to thesmokinggun.com or snopes.com.
Wrinkled skin is one thing, having skin that used to be on your outer thigh grafted on to your inner thigh is a completely different thing. I hope Doug you or anyone that you are concerned about never have that experience.
I didn’t mean she didn’t deserve a settlement. I do know she suffered.
What I meant was that 1 day of profit to 1 person equals a HUGE settlement. A few days of profit for entire towns is another example of just how skewed the SC is to big business. They won’t get anything. I think the figure was mentioned to be around $2500 per FAMILY that lost everything because of Exxon.
It wasn’t that I disagreed with the Mcdonald’s case. It was that I felt the Exxon case was a joke to the SC. It was a way to save their friend’s profit margin.
With the logic being presented on this board, I hope all of your agencies are carrying, ummmm, $100 million in E & O limits. And just when does a business become BIG, deserving of the skewering y’all are proposing for BIG business in general? Eliot Spitzer is alive and well in all of you. I’m sure your mothers are all very proud. Now don’t make any mistakes or do something stupid–they could be coming after you next. And I don’t want to hear about how I’ve never been damaged by BIG business ’cause it just ain’t true. But I don’t give them a second chance and, amazingly, most them end up OUT of business. That’s revenge enough for me.
A judgement against McDonalds for $20K won’t make McDonald’s change any policies. McDonald’s has changed the temp that their coffee is served as a result of this settlement.
Same with Exxon. A few days profit isn’t worth any kind of procedural change to them. $500B would make them take a long look at what changes they could make to avoid any further damage.
If it’s cheaper to pay a few lawsuits then to change the procedure, NOTHING CHANGES. If it costs more to pay for damages then it does to fix the problem, THE PROBLEM GETS FIXED.
Thanks, Dawn, for answering a question I didn’t ask. Typical. And condescendingly so. Again, typical. I guess that makes you feel intelligent and isn’t “feeling” what it’s all about? Who cares if your ideas dry up our supply of oil, inhibit research and exploration as long as you “stick it” to BIG OIL because that’s just “Accounting 101”. Brilliant! Tell me, exactly how many Valdez type oil spills have we had since Exxon DESTROYED so many peoples’ lives?
WTF?
How would a few weeks of profit bring Exxon down?????? Dry up oil supply???? What are you drinking this Fri afternoon?
So the executives might not make their extra $10M bonuses this year. Oh well. Don’t think I’ll cry for that one. Why would it be a matter of sticking it to Big Oil to make them take responsibility for their actions?
It SHOULD be proportional to the amount of money they make when they sacrifice people for it. That is the ONLY way they’ll ever change how they do things.
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Agree with what you say but please don’t further the propaganda of the McDonalds coffee burn case. McDonalds is no better than Exxon. 700 complaints that the coffee was excessively hot and exceeded industry standards that McDonalds intentionally ignored to make more profits even though they acknowledged some people would be maimed (which is why the jury hit them for only one day’s of coffee profits of 1 million in punitives). All she wanted was her med bills of 50k paid. They offered zero. 74 yr old with skin grafts and horrible pain after being scalded by 180 degree liquid. If you want even more horrendous details of that case (which you will never get from the Chamber of Commerce propoganda machine) pls got to thesmokinggun.com or snopes.com.
Yea but the fact that shes 74 should lead to a lower payment cause her skin is already wrinkled.
Wrinkled skin is one thing, having skin that used to be on your outer thigh grafted on to your inner thigh is a completely different thing. I hope Doug you or anyone that you are concerned about never have that experience.
I didn’t mean she didn’t deserve a settlement. I do know she suffered.
What I meant was that 1 day of profit to 1 person equals a HUGE settlement. A few days of profit for entire towns is another example of just how skewed the SC is to big business. They won’t get anything. I think the figure was mentioned to be around $2500 per FAMILY that lost everything because of Exxon.
It wasn’t that I disagreed with the Mcdonald’s case. It was that I felt the Exxon case was a joke to the SC. It was a way to save their friend’s profit margin.
With the logic being presented on this board, I hope all of your agencies are carrying, ummmm, $100 million in E & O limits. And just when does a business become BIG, deserving of the skewering y’all are proposing for BIG business in general? Eliot Spitzer is alive and well in all of you. I’m sure your mothers are all very proud. Now don’t make any mistakes or do something stupid–they could be coming after you next. And I don’t want to hear about how I’ve never been damaged by BIG business ’cause it just ain’t true. But I don’t give them a second chance and, amazingly, most them end up OUT of business. That’s revenge enough for me.
A judgement against McDonalds for $20K won’t make McDonald’s change any policies. McDonald’s has changed the temp that their coffee is served as a result of this settlement.
Same with Exxon. A few days profit isn’t worth any kind of procedural change to them. $500B would make them take a long look at what changes they could make to avoid any further damage.
If it’s cheaper to pay a few lawsuits then to change the procedure, NOTHING CHANGES. If it costs more to pay for damages then it does to fix the problem, THE PROBLEM GETS FIXED.
Accounting 101.
Thanks, Dawn, for answering a question I didn’t ask. Typical. And condescendingly so. Again, typical. I guess that makes you feel intelligent and isn’t “feeling” what it’s all about? Who cares if your ideas dry up our supply of oil, inhibit research and exploration as long as you “stick it” to BIG OIL because that’s just “Accounting 101”. Brilliant! Tell me, exactly how many Valdez type oil spills have we had since Exxon DESTROYED so many peoples’ lives?
Good job Dawn, you just blew Brook out of the water! Bam, its over Brook…go home for the weekend.
WTF?
How would a few weeks of profit bring Exxon down?????? Dry up oil supply???? What are you drinking this Fri afternoon?
So the executives might not make their extra $10M bonuses this year. Oh well. Don’t think I’ll cry for that one. Why would it be a matter of sticking it to Big Oil to make them take responsibility for their actions?
It SHOULD be proportional to the amount of money they make when they sacrifice people for it. That is the ONLY way they’ll ever change how they do things.
He’s either heavily invested in Exxon or sniffing the gas.