I\’m sick of hearing people ***** about factories that have moved out of country. Why don\’t these same people ***** about foreign companies opening factories here in the U.S.? Toyota, Siemens, American Marazzi hire U.S. employees when they come to our country.
Unions CREATED the middle class? Unions never created anything but fat paychecks for business agents. Unions are legalized extortion that prohibit competition among workers and strangle initiative. If not for do-nothing govt workers, there would be even less union membership than the current 11% of workers. May union membership (which is forced on many unwilling workers) continue to dwindle.
The article is not about illegal aliens, its about conforming to the terms of NAFTA that we agreed to years ago. NAFTA allows Mexican and Canadian trucks to transport cargo to destinations within the US. Canadian trucks have been doing this all along. However, the labor unions, specifically the Teamsters, object to this because it takes away from their very well paid members. Lawsuits were filed to keep the Mexican trucks out of the US.
The cargo still comes into the US. Right now the Mexican trucks have to transfer their cargo onto US trucks at the border. That\’s not what we agreed to under NAFTA, but what was required due to lawsuits by the Teamsters.
For at least 20 years I\’ve been ranting about the demise of the middle class. Back in 1986 when I started my rant I had relatives that told me I was crazy, that all that is being done is less expensive goods will be made available to them. Now that 80% of those relatives (they were highly paid) have lost their jobs to India….they now see clearly.
That axiom about learning from history always seems to hold true. A country that isn\’t producing the goods (they use outside slave labor to produce the goods) is on a downward spiral.
The growing dominant world economy is China. Does China use outsiders to produce their goods. No! They are like the USA was when it was a growing Nation, producers of goods.
I got so PO\’d about this subject I could spit blood. The powers-to-be are banking their money and selling the middle class to the lowest bidder. Errrr!!!!!!
Once all of the US interstates are sold to Australia, Spain and Dubai, the Mexican trucks won\’t be able to afford the tolls.
Of course, the American trucks won\’t be able to afford them either, nor will the American people.
Thanks to Public/Private Partnerships, the highways will be so expensive that only Bill Gates and Donald Trump will be using them. So save for two vehicles, our roads will finally be accident free!
Repeat after me… I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Spain of Australia…
Tough, interesting subject. China produces goods but when you study how they do it, it\’s not pretty for the working class and laborers there.
In the US, you used to have child labor and even slave labor, eventually society deals with that as socially unjust.
Now it happens \”out of sight\”. There\’s the invisible hand of economics at work pushing production to lowest possible cost, even if outside the nation. Next step is some global realization that working conditions could be unacceptable. Production still gravitates to cheapest source but if that source is a higher standard, that\’s what we\’ll pay for and accept.
Trouble now is there are so many countries where people will accept poor conditions because it beats nothing at all.
The loss of middle class purchasing power can be tied directly to the size of government and the resulting taxes. For instance, the alt min tax is creeping into more pockets as middle class wages RISE. Why are jobs moved overseas? Lower cost of doing business. Are companies in business to lose money or make money? Should they stay here and pay union members not to work, or go to more friendly environs and make a profit? Where are Toyota et al building their factories in the US? In right-to-work states.
So go ahead and keep voting democrat and maybe when they are able they will nationalize everything and we can all work for the government: and there will be NO middle class at all, you know, like in Cuba.
Well, I have read all the posts & the article too. The problem I have with this stems from previous attempts to make this happen, that did result in $ in the pockets of the Import/Export business that popped up all along the border when things were halted due to the teamsters.
Now we have seen the Mexican Trucks, most are in horrible condition (leaking fluids, broken & burned out lights, dirty (I guess there are no truck wash bays in Mexico) & driven without care of the other traffic on the roadways) the drivers are not familiar with our laws, nor would the majority qualify for a CDL in the States!
I had the pleasure of living in the South Texas Valley from 1993-1995 & worked for a transportation Broker that moved the Mexican freight throughout the US. We made several trailer interchanges, which resulted in our company not receiving the trailers back from Mexico & no course of action was implemented on how we could do so in the future. By now, the trailers that we sent down to pick up freight to bring back are probably in horrible condition, bad tires, no lights, etc…
My point is that we are not doing Mexico any injustice by keeping them out if we make a treaty that they must abide by, so if they are willing to abide by the agreement & address the concerns of safety, then we should let them have their chance to prove what they can do. We need it to be monitored & records kept to determine what percentage is working for the good & what percentage is just working no matter what the cost!
I am all for helping our neighbors & we need to allow a little time to see how well our help is received, or if it will be rejected & they will not abide by the requirements. There is always some that will not conform, but there are many that will.
Hey there Gring0, the government has actually increased in size over the last six years, and the last I checked there were no demos in power. And you\’re absolutely right, companies are just created for money, and shouldn\’t have any loyalty to the citizens of their own country. Hopefully, they can outsource your job, and I can buy cheaper insurance. Because really, that\’s all that matters.
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I\’m sick of hearing people ***** about factories that have moved out of country. Why don\’t these same people ***** about foreign companies opening factories here in the U.S.? Toyota, Siemens, American Marazzi hire U.S. employees when they come to our country.
Unions CREATED the middle class? Unions never created anything but fat paychecks for business agents. Unions are legalized extortion that prohibit competition among workers and strangle initiative. If not for do-nothing govt workers, there would be even less union membership than the current 11% of workers. May union membership (which is forced on many unwilling workers) continue to dwindle.
Hey tom,
The article is not about illegal aliens, its about conforming to the terms of NAFTA that we agreed to years ago. NAFTA allows Mexican and Canadian trucks to transport cargo to destinations within the US. Canadian trucks have been doing this all along. However, the labor unions, specifically the Teamsters, object to this because it takes away from their very well paid members. Lawsuits were filed to keep the Mexican trucks out of the US.
The cargo still comes into the US. Right now the Mexican trucks have to transfer their cargo onto US trucks at the border. That\’s not what we agreed to under NAFTA, but what was required due to lawsuits by the Teamsters.
Amen, Gring0!!
For at least 20 years I\’ve been ranting about the demise of the middle class. Back in 1986 when I started my rant I had relatives that told me I was crazy, that all that is being done is less expensive goods will be made available to them. Now that 80% of those relatives (they were highly paid) have lost their jobs to India….they now see clearly.
That axiom about learning from history always seems to hold true. A country that isn\’t producing the goods (they use outside slave labor to produce the goods) is on a downward spiral.
The growing dominant world economy is China. Does China use outsiders to produce their goods. No! They are like the USA was when it was a growing Nation, producers of goods.
I got so PO\’d about this subject I could spit blood. The powers-to-be are banking their money and selling the middle class to the lowest bidder. Errrr!!!!!!
Once all of the US interstates are sold to Australia, Spain and Dubai, the Mexican trucks won\’t be able to afford the tolls.
Of course, the American trucks won\’t be able to afford them either, nor will the American people.
Thanks to Public/Private Partnerships, the highways will be so expensive that only Bill Gates and Donald Trump will be using them. So save for two vehicles, our roads will finally be accident free!
Repeat after me… I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Spain of Australia…
Tough, interesting subject. China produces goods but when you study how they do it, it\’s not pretty for the working class and laborers there.
In the US, you used to have child labor and even slave labor, eventually society deals with that as socially unjust.
Now it happens \”out of sight\”. There\’s the invisible hand of economics at work pushing production to lowest possible cost, even if outside the nation. Next step is some global realization that working conditions could be unacceptable. Production still gravitates to cheapest source but if that source is a higher standard, that\’s what we\’ll pay for and accept.
Trouble now is there are so many countries where people will accept poor conditions because it beats nothing at all.
The loss of middle class purchasing power can be tied directly to the size of government and the resulting taxes. For instance, the alt min tax is creeping into more pockets as middle class wages RISE. Why are jobs moved overseas? Lower cost of doing business. Are companies in business to lose money or make money? Should they stay here and pay union members not to work, or go to more friendly environs and make a profit? Where are Toyota et al building their factories in the US? In right-to-work states.
So go ahead and keep voting democrat and maybe when they are able they will nationalize everything and we can all work for the government: and there will be NO middle class at all, you know, like in Cuba.
Well, I have read all the posts & the article too. The problem I have with this stems from previous attempts to make this happen, that did result in $ in the pockets of the Import/Export business that popped up all along the border when things were halted due to the teamsters.
Now we have seen the Mexican Trucks, most are in horrible condition (leaking fluids, broken & burned out lights, dirty (I guess there are no truck wash bays in Mexico) & driven without care of the other traffic on the roadways) the drivers are not familiar with our laws, nor would the majority qualify for a CDL in the States!
I had the pleasure of living in the South Texas Valley from 1993-1995 & worked for a transportation Broker that moved the Mexican freight throughout the US. We made several trailer interchanges, which resulted in our company not receiving the trailers back from Mexico & no course of action was implemented on how we could do so in the future. By now, the trailers that we sent down to pick up freight to bring back are probably in horrible condition, bad tires, no lights, etc…
My point is that we are not doing Mexico any injustice by keeping them out if we make a treaty that they must abide by, so if they are willing to abide by the agreement & address the concerns of safety, then we should let them have their chance to prove what they can do. We need it to be monitored & records kept to determine what percentage is working for the good & what percentage is just working no matter what the cost!
I am all for helping our neighbors & we need to allow a little time to see how well our help is received, or if it will be rejected & they will not abide by the requirements. There is always some that will not conform, but there are many that will.
Hey there Gring0, the government has actually increased in size over the last six years, and the last I checked there were no demos in power. And you\’re absolutely right, companies are just created for money, and shouldn\’t have any loyalty to the citizens of their own country. Hopefully, they can outsource your job, and I can buy cheaper insurance. Because really, that\’s all that matters.