InsExec: You may disagree, but that’s simply an opinion. You didn’t make the case to support it.
The initial comment about a “drought” in black talent was made was based on FACT. Where are the responsible, progressive black leaders today who will serve as role models and move the race AHEAD instead of driving using only the rearview mirror? The world knows Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are two of the biggest racists in the country. Consider this. Since the majority of barriers (alleged, pereived, or real) to racial equality have been eliminated for quite some time, how long will it take for blacks to attain their goal of equality based on ability, skill, and talent?
For all of you jackasses that want to make the point that Blacks have never had a viable candidate – how about Shirley, Jesse and Al (apparently you REALLY hate them) and others. Most of the civil rights struggle was a grass roots effort and first things, first. You wouldn’t understand first of all being White and then secondly ignorant and obviously racist. You can spew the little Condi and why Blacks hate her comments but how do you feel about the Strom Thurmonds, the Trent Lotts, the Sean Hannity, the Limbaughs and the Bull Conners of this world. Knowing you all, you probably feel they are right as apparently this comment line has turned into the FOX Network. You all really showed your true colors but no one has really offered any real solutions only critiques that you felt you had to get off your chest. You really don’t like being put in your place or someone offering a comment. It’s just the mob / lynch mentality of the 20th and 19th centuries to jump on a group of people and dare them to answer you. It’s scary to think some of you are decision makers and you use the IJ to express how you really feel. God forbid you have a Black superior and this is how you really think? We have had a history of great thinkers – A. Philip Randolph, James Weldon Johnston, Langston Hughes, Walter White, W.E.B. DuBois, Andrew Young, etc. There was a Black president that serviced very briefly in the 19th century. Why don’t you do your homework rather than have your own little pea-brained discussion of Black people like we don’t read the IJ and we’re not privy to these inflammatory comments.
That’s not unity but we’re all Americans when it is convenient for Whites, i.e. an attack from an enemy. There are plenty of people of color fighting for your rights and here you are denigrating them like their capable of doing anything. I guess back in the day some of you actually thought black-face was pretty funny too and apparently your parents, grandparents handed down the hate too. I guess you think Blacks are still under the 3/5th compromise and are still sub-human.
Who knows if one of those little girls bombed in Birmingham could have ran for office but Condi is from there and I don’t like because she’s Black it’s just that other people control her and like to say “ooo we got one” and “how’s this are you satisfied?” mentality. That’s what whites like to do – get a Black and say take this. When it comes down to it she’ll be the scapegoat just like Colin Powell. Rumsey will be the hero and the hard-liner.
We invented most of your household item including the cell phone, ignoramuses (just thought I’d throw that in for free).
Yeah, these comments are real eye-openers and make me sad for race relations because you can’t even see past your own jaded and ignorant views. You’d rather ASSume things.
Tell all us ign’ant white folk why, with all the truly accomplished members of your community, the current Afican American candidate is the best. Please enlighten us.
I think that what inflames people against your cause is that all of us have been discriminated against. White folks just don’t talk about it constantly and waste time hating the discriminator. Selection will always take place in any society so, personally, I’ve had to move on to an environment (working or otherwise) that acknowledges my talent and supports my goals.
Further, I don’t necessarily support every Fox commentator nor do I feel the need to support the view of every white person on the planet. I’d like to know why hateful African Americans enjoy the support of the majority of the black community.
In closing, no one appreciates the venom with which you judge our most personal thoughts. In case you missed it, our system of government is unique in the world because it does not punish thoughts. Only when put into action do they become punishable offenses. If YOU prefer a system that punishes people who do not THINK as you do, I suggest a call to Hugo Chavez.
Everyone can say they aren’t racist or discriminatory, but everyone is in some way, or maybe you’re like me, I”m not racist nor discriminatory, I just hate everyone.
How do you know most Blacks support so called hateful African Americans? That’s like my saying all whites agreed with Jim Crow. I can make comments about what I see writing on this website and get a pretty good idea of where people are coming from ergo my previous comments, thank you very much.
I could care less if you or anyone else does not appreciate my comments – Freedom of Speech or would you rather the 14th amendment not exist at all? How come my comments are venomous as opposed to several bloggers that want to debare the viability of the Black community and our so called poor choice of Black leaders and lack thereof? You just hate someone standing up for themselves and last I checked the sign didn’t say “Whites Only” when posting. If you’re going to dish out hateful and spiteful comments then be prepared to receive it in return and my statements are not hateful – just factual.
And my comments/opinions are borne out of my life experience as well, ergo factual. And if you don’t think I wasn’t “discriminated” against as a woman in the insurance business when I started 30 years ago, you just haven’t been paying attention. Or you’re a newbie to the industry.
You don’t need to file a discrimination claim to get ahead. You need to get your head down and your hiney up and get to work.
Apparently, honest disagreement is now referred to as “hateful”. What a clever way to marginalize those who have a different life experience and view of life from your own! I’m not buying it, however.
These cases happen all the time. Did the blacks who are supposedly discriminated against ever stop to think, maybe I didn’t get the job because I can’t speak proper English (I’ve never heard a black person say the word “ask” it’s always “axe”), or because I don’t have the qualifications, or because I don’t present myself very professionally? No, they immediately run to their ACLU lawyer and cry racism rather than take the responsibility of bettering themselves to try harder for the job. And they will always get away with it, because blacks are allowed to use discrimination as an excuse for being lazy and everything else, and whites are more and more being discriminated against for no reason, just to please the ACLU. We’re still paying blacks off for slavery, when none of us alive today was even around to witness it. They don’t have to work as hard to get what they want, they only have to sue us.
Don’t know where you’ve been. I previously worked for a fortune 100 insurance company and more than one fortune 500 company. One CEO was of indian descent — he worked for the company for 30 years and worked up thru the ranks eventually becoming CEO, the RVP of one office (the ‘top dog’ in a fairly large office of 800) was black, as was my direct supervisor. At another company, the head of our claims department, head of the IT department, and the casualty product manager were black. I say this not to prove my diversity–in fact I consider those facts to be wholly irrelevant–but to provide you with concrete examples of how racism and sexism have moved from mainstream into marginalia in the corporate world – it’s now the exception rather than the rule, and that’s certainly a very good thing.
And at all companies, believe it or not (and you clearly don’t believe it) race was CERTAINLY NOT a factor in anything, whether it be hiring, promotions, etc. These individuals rose to their respective (significant!) posts by hard work, commitment, and results. They were all extraordinarily bright, competent individuals, and I admired all of them.
So, though it might not have always been the case in our country, I am confident that education, experience, intelligence, hard work and dedication are all that’s needed to succeed. In my experience the corporate world, in particular financial services such as insurance, is fully color blind. I’m sure exceptions have and will probably continue to happen, and such ignorance should be dealt with accordingly.
So, when you say (and I quote) “God forbid you have a Black superior and this is how you really think?”, you really just sound extraordinarily ignorant. Take off your blinders and welcome to the year 2008. It’s not 1950 anymore.
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InsExec: You may disagree, but that’s simply an opinion. You didn’t make the case to support it.
The initial comment about a “drought” in black talent was made was based on FACT. Where are the responsible, progressive black leaders today who will serve as role models and move the race AHEAD instead of driving using only the rearview mirror? The world knows Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are two of the biggest racists in the country. Consider this. Since the majority of barriers (alleged, pereived, or real) to racial equality have been eliminated for quite some time, how long will it take for blacks to attain their goal of equality based on ability, skill, and talent?
For all of you jackasses that want to make the point that Blacks have never had a viable candidate – how about Shirley, Jesse and Al (apparently you REALLY hate them) and others. Most of the civil rights struggle was a grass roots effort and first things, first. You wouldn’t understand first of all being White and then secondly ignorant and obviously racist. You can spew the little Condi and why Blacks hate her comments but how do you feel about the Strom Thurmonds, the Trent Lotts, the Sean Hannity, the Limbaughs and the Bull Conners of this world. Knowing you all, you probably feel they are right as apparently this comment line has turned into the FOX Network. You all really showed your true colors but no one has really offered any real solutions only critiques that you felt you had to get off your chest. You really don’t like being put in your place or someone offering a comment. It’s just the mob / lynch mentality of the 20th and 19th centuries to jump on a group of people and dare them to answer you. It’s scary to think some of you are decision makers and you use the IJ to express how you really feel. God forbid you have a Black superior and this is how you really think? We have had a history of great thinkers – A. Philip Randolph, James Weldon Johnston, Langston Hughes, Walter White, W.E.B. DuBois, Andrew Young, etc. There was a Black president that serviced very briefly in the 19th century. Why don’t you do your homework rather than have your own little pea-brained discussion of Black people like we don’t read the IJ and we’re not privy to these inflammatory comments.
That’s not unity but we’re all Americans when it is convenient for Whites, i.e. an attack from an enemy. There are plenty of people of color fighting for your rights and here you are denigrating them like their capable of doing anything. I guess back in the day some of you actually thought black-face was pretty funny too and apparently your parents, grandparents handed down the hate too. I guess you think Blacks are still under the 3/5th compromise and are still sub-human.
Who knows if one of those little girls bombed in Birmingham could have ran for office but Condi is from there and I don’t like because she’s Black it’s just that other people control her and like to say “ooo we got one” and “how’s this are you satisfied?” mentality. That’s what whites like to do – get a Black and say take this. When it comes down to it she’ll be the scapegoat just like Colin Powell. Rumsey will be the hero and the hard-liner.
We invented most of your household item including the cell phone, ignoramuses (just thought I’d throw that in for free).
Yeah, these comments are real eye-openers and make me sad for race relations because you can’t even see past your own jaded and ignorant views. You’d rather ASSume things.
Dear Mr. X:
Tell all us ign’ant white folk why, with all the truly accomplished members of your community, the current Afican American candidate is the best. Please enlighten us.
I think that what inflames people against your cause is that all of us have been discriminated against. White folks just don’t talk about it constantly and waste time hating the discriminator. Selection will always take place in any society so, personally, I’ve had to move on to an environment (working or otherwise) that acknowledges my talent and supports my goals.
Further, I don’t necessarily support every Fox commentator nor do I feel the need to support the view of every white person on the planet. I’d like to know why hateful African Americans enjoy the support of the majority of the black community.
In closing, no one appreciates the venom with which you judge our most personal thoughts. In case you missed it, our system of government is unique in the world because it does not punish thoughts. Only when put into action do they become punishable offenses. If YOU prefer a system that punishes people who do not THINK as you do, I suggest a call to Hugo Chavez.
Can’t we all just get along?
Everyone can say they aren’t racist or discriminatory, but everyone is in some way, or maybe you’re like me, I”m not racist nor discriminatory, I just hate everyone.
Brokette,
How do you know most Blacks support so called hateful African Americans? That’s like my saying all whites agreed with Jim Crow. I can make comments about what I see writing on this website and get a pretty good idea of where people are coming from ergo my previous comments, thank you very much.
I could care less if you or anyone else does not appreciate my comments – Freedom of Speech or would you rather the 14th amendment not exist at all? How come my comments are venomous as opposed to several bloggers that want to debare the viability of the Black community and our so called poor choice of Black leaders and lack thereof? You just hate someone standing up for themselves and last I checked the sign didn’t say “Whites Only” when posting. If you’re going to dish out hateful and spiteful comments then be prepared to receive it in return and my statements are not hateful – just factual.
And my comments/opinions are borne out of my life experience as well, ergo factual. And if you don’t think I wasn’t “discriminated” against as a woman in the insurance business when I started 30 years ago, you just haven’t been paying attention. Or you’re a newbie to the industry.
You don’t need to file a discrimination claim to get ahead. You need to get your head down and your hiney up and get to work.
Apparently, honest disagreement is now referred to as “hateful”. What a clever way to marginalize those who have a different life experience and view of life from your own! I’m not buying it, however.
These cases happen all the time. Did the blacks who are supposedly discriminated against ever stop to think, maybe I didn’t get the job because I can’t speak proper English (I’ve never heard a black person say the word “ask” it’s always “axe”), or because I don’t have the qualifications, or because I don’t present myself very professionally? No, they immediately run to their ACLU lawyer and cry racism rather than take the responsibility of bettering themselves to try harder for the job. And they will always get away with it, because blacks are allowed to use discrimination as an excuse for being lazy and everything else, and whites are more and more being discriminated against for no reason, just to please the ACLU. We’re still paying blacks off for slavery, when none of us alive today was even around to witness it. They don’t have to work as hard to get what they want, they only have to sue us.
Hey, Al Gore invented the internet, so we’re all even!
To Mr. X:
Don’t know where you’ve been. I previously worked for a fortune 100 insurance company and more than one fortune 500 company. One CEO was of indian descent — he worked for the company for 30 years and worked up thru the ranks eventually becoming CEO, the RVP of one office (the ‘top dog’ in a fairly large office of 800) was black, as was my direct supervisor. At another company, the head of our claims department, head of the IT department, and the casualty product manager were black. I say this not to prove my diversity–in fact I consider those facts to be wholly irrelevant–but to provide you with concrete examples of how racism and sexism have moved from mainstream into marginalia in the corporate world – it’s now the exception rather than the rule, and that’s certainly a very good thing.
And at all companies, believe it or not (and you clearly don’t believe it) race was CERTAINLY NOT a factor in anything, whether it be hiring, promotions, etc. These individuals rose to their respective (significant!) posts by hard work, commitment, and results. They were all extraordinarily bright, competent individuals, and I admired all of them.
So, though it might not have always been the case in our country, I am confident that education, experience, intelligence, hard work and dedication are all that’s needed to succeed. In my experience the corporate world, in particular financial services such as insurance, is fully color blind. I’m sure exceptions have and will probably continue to happen, and such ignorance should be dealt with accordingly.
So, when you say (and I quote) “God forbid you have a Black superior and this is how you really think?”, you really just sound extraordinarily ignorant. Take off your blinders and welcome to the year 2008. It’s not 1950 anymore.