Dykeman…
And what you just said is why there are rules about hiring. We can\’t always count on people to hire the most qualified. We can\’t always count on schools admitting the most qualified. And we can\’t count on people in general treating people equitably. I think we have outlined here, racism and sexism is alive and well.
Unfortunately, I think you and mjolnir have missed the point that UW and Shocked were talking about. I read all of the posts from both, and neither said anything with regard to whether the company in this article or the examples listed in the last post are proof of or a rejection of discriminatory hiring practices. Their point was that without a full set of information, you just don\’t know. The example of professional athletes is a very good one. Many people can type 60 wpm, or put mail in a slot or put food on a shelf. Most cannot catch a 50 yard pass on the run between defenders. So, are blacks better athletes? Or does that mean that with an overwhelming black majority in professional sports that all owners are racists? We don\’t know what positions men held in the company in this article. Of the 500 men working for the company, are 250 mgrs or above? Do 499 work in the mail room? Is the company in Detroit so small that not a single black person ever applied? Is that company in the Southwest a company that has just moved there and 90% of the employees relocated from another area? So, it seems to be pretty obvious that you need to know more than just the numbers of employees before you can make a statement on discrimination.
You miss the point: I don’t need all the numbers or facts to determine that it is wrong for the government to force someone to associate with people with whom he wants nothing to do. It might be right for Church, but it’s wrong for government.
The government’s proper job is to punish wickedness and vice and defend the border, not to make people nice. If some black guy wants to hire no whites to work in his warehouse in an all-white community, it’s his business. If blacks are indignant about this, they won’t work for him. LET THE MARKET DECIDE. Let free people make free decisions. No one has a right to work for anyone except himself.
I live in an integrated neighborhood. My son’s girlfriend is half-white. I shovel the black lady’s driveway across the street, and we have keys to each other’s homes, and on and on. Racism is not the point. The point is that because property rights were destroyed by “civil rights” legislation in the name of forcing people to associate -in violation of the 1st Amendment- the government has been on a forty-year power grab with no end in sight. Now preggers women can sue for not being hired. It’s madness.
This is too bad for you Dykeman, it sounds like maybe you\’re living in the wrong century. We already fought a war over this crap, and guess what, you\’re side lost. Maybe you can invent a time machine and go back to the 19th century. That way, instead of shoveling your neighbors snow, you can have her pickin\’ yo\’ cotton and using the drinkin\’ fountain around back. That damn civil rights movement, gone an\’ screwed up our entire country. And how timely that this is all comin\’ after celebratin\’ that damn MLK birthday on Monday. Ya\’ must be in a livin\’ hell.
A. Learn how to spell \”proclamation.\”
B. People\’s rights to their property are next in importance to their right to life.
C. If you have read my posts here and that\’s all you can come up with, then go pound sand.
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Dykeman…
And what you just said is why there are rules about hiring. We can\’t always count on people to hire the most qualified. We can\’t always count on schools admitting the most qualified. And we can\’t count on people in general treating people equitably. I think we have outlined here, racism and sexism is alive and well.
Unfortunately, I think you and mjolnir have missed the point that UW and Shocked were talking about. I read all of the posts from both, and neither said anything with regard to whether the company in this article or the examples listed in the last post are proof of or a rejection of discriminatory hiring practices. Their point was that without a full set of information, you just don\’t know. The example of professional athletes is a very good one. Many people can type 60 wpm, or put mail in a slot or put food on a shelf. Most cannot catch a 50 yard pass on the run between defenders. So, are blacks better athletes? Or does that mean that with an overwhelming black majority in professional sports that all owners are racists? We don\’t know what positions men held in the company in this article. Of the 500 men working for the company, are 250 mgrs or above? Do 499 work in the mail room? Is the company in Detroit so small that not a single black person ever applied? Is that company in the Southwest a company that has just moved there and 90% of the employees relocated from another area? So, it seems to be pretty obvious that you need to know more than just the numbers of employees before you can make a statement on discrimination.
Exactly appauled.
You miss the point: I don’t need all the numbers or facts to determine that it is wrong for the government to force someone to associate with people with whom he wants nothing to do. It might be right for Church, but it’s wrong for government.
The government’s proper job is to punish wickedness and vice and defend the border, not to make people nice. If some black guy wants to hire no whites to work in his warehouse in an all-white community, it’s his business. If blacks are indignant about this, they won’t work for him. LET THE MARKET DECIDE. Let free people make free decisions. No one has a right to work for anyone except himself.
I live in an integrated neighborhood. My son’s girlfriend is half-white. I shovel the black lady’s driveway across the street, and we have keys to each other’s homes, and on and on. Racism is not the point. The point is that because property rights were destroyed by “civil rights” legislation in the name of forcing people to associate -in violation of the 1st Amendment- the government has been on a forty-year power grab with no end in sight. Now preggers women can sue for not being hired. It’s madness.
This is too bad for you Dykeman, it sounds like maybe you\’re living in the wrong century. We already fought a war over this crap, and guess what, you\’re side lost. Maybe you can invent a time machine and go back to the 19th century. That way, instead of shoveling your neighbors snow, you can have her pickin\’ yo\’ cotton and using the drinkin\’ fountain around back. That damn civil rights movement, gone an\’ screwed up our entire country. And how timely that this is all comin\’ after celebratin\’ that damn MLK birthday on Monday. Ya\’ must be in a livin\’ hell.
A. Learn how to spell \”proclamation.\”
B. People\’s rights to their property are next in importance to their right to life.
C. If you have read my posts here and that\’s all you can come up with, then go pound sand.