Since the Boy Scouts don’t allow gays in leadership position maybe this is some kind of enlightenment thing by a few unusual Mormons or some other sick group pushing their own sick agenda. Some of you act like these so called mainstream Mormons are not just good ol boys out having a fine time with the scouts on a campout. Scouting is supposed to something you remember the lessons of long after you are grown. These kids will have something to remember. Unfortunately it will follow them for the rest of their lives. How sick, evil and perverted to rape a child.
GOD BLESS THE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.
A Philadelphia chapter of the BSA is going to be evicted from the city property it has met in for 80 years because it will not let sodomists be involved with its boys.
In plain English this means that the sodomy lobby has convinced the city council that if it isn’t allowed to rape boys on Scout camping trips, the Scouts must suffer. So it’s either allow the Scouts to be raped or kick them out. The Scouts get screwed either way.
–to get statehood. But that took care of the problem–we never hear about child sexual abuse involving forced marriage in the news involving fundamentalists sects of LDS anymore.
Nothing to worry about. We’re all scary perfect here.
Just because they are sodomists does not make them pedophiles. There’s the bigotry. Most of the stories I hear are about either “celibate” or supposedly-straight people commiting child-rape in these cases. Seems to me the kids are safer with a bunch of gay men.
I don’t condone child abuse in the least. Not one bit. But I do have to wonder why cases are being brought forth for events decades ago. It smells fishy to me.
I must also wonder how wide-spread we are talking. Is it nation-wide? Just Utah? How big a problem is this?
However big the problem it should be rooted out and those who prey on children should be punished. Hopefully some of this madness will stop soon. Too many institutions that should be looked to as models have received black eyes lately.
This is becoming a trend (not just in sex / abuse cases). Someone wrongs you and rather than dealing with that person directly you sue their company, their church, the company that built his car, the roofer who worked on his house last year, even the doctor who delivered him.
It’s rediculous. Nothing in this story indicated BSA or LDS did anything to allow this man access to children after he was identified as a predator. Just that he’s on the list now.
Does anyone know when the approach of suing EVERYONE started? It’s getting to the point where trial attorneys must be learning from Jonathan Lee Riches (Wikipedia him for a laugh).
I don’t know what percentage it is exactly, but a large percentage of congressmen and senators are lawyers. Even more importantly, the Democrats are totally in the pocket of the trial attorneys’ bar, one of their top contributors. It should therefore be no surprise that many of the laws that are passed (ADA, e.g.) invite and encourage lawsuits. They are so written.
In that climate, where laws are crafted in the interest of barratry, it is no surprise that people see any slight or injury, real or perceived, as an opportunity to cash in. The irony in this case is that the Democrats are heavily influenced not only by the legal profession but also the sodomy lobby, so this kind of lawsuit is basically a civil war.
You guys should look at this more closely. If you bother to read the lawsuit, or even the stories about it, it is clear that both the scouts and the lds church left this man in a position of leadership to kids for several years after 1981– the time of his first arrest for a child offense. By the way, the perpetrator, a guy named timur dykes, has convictions for 23 child sex crimes, and has spent all but a few of the last 20 years in prison. I don’t like lawsuits anymore than the next guy, but this does not seem to be a lawsuit without merit… I am an Oregonian and I have kids and I want these organizations cleaned up, and if it takes civil lawsuits to do it, then so be it. It worked to clean up the Catholic church, maybe it will work here.
You are 100% right. The thread got a little off topic, and my post about lawsuits in general was not intended to reflect either way on the merits of this particular suit.
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Since the Boy Scouts don’t allow gays in leadership position maybe this is some kind of enlightenment thing by a few unusual Mormons or some other sick group pushing their own sick agenda. Some of you act like these so called mainstream Mormons are not just good ol boys out having a fine time with the scouts on a campout. Scouting is supposed to something you remember the lessons of long after you are grown. These kids will have something to remember. Unfortunately it will follow them for the rest of their lives. How sick, evil and perverted to rape a child.
GOD BLESS THE BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.
A Philadelphia chapter of the BSA is going to be evicted from the city property it has met in for 80 years because it will not let sodomists be involved with its boys.
In plain English this means that the sodomy lobby has convinced the city council that if it isn’t allowed to rape boys on Scout camping trips, the Scouts must suffer. So it’s either allow the Scouts to be raped or kick them out. The Scouts get screwed either way.
–to get statehood. But that took care of the problem–we never hear about child sexual abuse involving forced marriage in the news involving fundamentalists sects of LDS anymore.
Nothing to worry about. We’re all scary perfect here.
“Move along folks, move along. There’s nothing to see here…”
I’m sure that normal people reading this thread can tell whether you or I pose the bigger threat to humanity…
Got Aids Yet?
Just because they are sodomists does not make them pedophiles. There’s the bigotry. Most of the stories I hear are about either “celibate” or supposedly-straight people commiting child-rape in these cases. Seems to me the kids are safer with a bunch of gay men.
I don’t condone child abuse in the least. Not one bit. But I do have to wonder why cases are being brought forth for events decades ago. It smells fishy to me.
I must also wonder how wide-spread we are talking. Is it nation-wide? Just Utah? How big a problem is this?
However big the problem it should be rooted out and those who prey on children should be punished. Hopefully some of this madness will stop soon. Too many institutions that should be looked to as models have received black eyes lately.
This is becoming a trend (not just in sex / abuse cases). Someone wrongs you and rather than dealing with that person directly you sue their company, their church, the company that built his car, the roofer who worked on his house last year, even the doctor who delivered him.
It’s rediculous. Nothing in this story indicated BSA or LDS did anything to allow this man access to children after he was identified as a predator. Just that he’s on the list now.
Does anyone know when the approach of suing EVERYONE started? It’s getting to the point where trial attorneys must be learning from Jonathan Lee Riches (Wikipedia him for a laugh).
I don’t know what percentage it is exactly, but a large percentage of congressmen and senators are lawyers. Even more importantly, the Democrats are totally in the pocket of the trial attorneys’ bar, one of their top contributors. It should therefore be no surprise that many of the laws that are passed (ADA, e.g.) invite and encourage lawsuits. They are so written.
In that climate, where laws are crafted in the interest of barratry, it is no surprise that people see any slight or injury, real or perceived, as an opportunity to cash in. The irony in this case is that the Democrats are heavily influenced not only by the legal profession but also the sodomy lobby, so this kind of lawsuit is basically a civil war.
You guys should look at this more closely. If you bother to read the lawsuit, or even the stories about it, it is clear that both the scouts and the lds church left this man in a position of leadership to kids for several years after 1981– the time of his first arrest for a child offense. By the way, the perpetrator, a guy named timur dykes, has convictions for 23 child sex crimes, and has spent all but a few of the last 20 years in prison. I don’t like lawsuits anymore than the next guy, but this does not seem to be a lawsuit without merit… I am an Oregonian and I have kids and I want these organizations cleaned up, and if it takes civil lawsuits to do it, then so be it. It worked to clean up the Catholic church, maybe it will work here.
You are 100% right. The thread got a little off topic, and my post about lawsuits in general was not intended to reflect either way on the merits of this particular suit.