There were no fat people in the Nazi camps in WWII. The bottom line is, if you stop eating, you WILL lose weight. The rest of it is just a cop out. Even people with “genetic” conditions will lose weight if they actually COUNT the calories.
Seems that sense race, gender, ethnic origin, religion, have all been put off the bias list, we are left just to punch the living heck out of fat people. Bipartisanship lives on. Remember, the progressive movement pushed eugenics as a way to solve social issues. From what I see here, the revival of that vile idea is well and getting traction. My take, quit looking at everyone around you as a cost factor that you must demand be controlled. Cannabalism is also a way for some people to loose weight-any volunteers!
Also, don’t fat people live shorter lives, wow-a real plus on the SS side. Whatever happened to live and let live.
The most recent study I’ve read indicates that these multiple genes contribute to a difference of less than 5 pounds in the test subjects. I don’t think the tendency to hold a few extra pounds results in obesity. Obesity is caused by eating too much and exercising too little. Eating too much and exercising too little are caused by a lot of things: emotional and psychological problems like depression and sadness, social pressures, a lack of understanding about healthy diet and healthy weight. It’s both simple and complicated!
My how we have become my brother’s peeper rather than respecting people’s right to do what they wish as long as it doesn’t physically harm another.
Let’s not fall into the trap of cost calculating every human activity or lifestyle based soley on a nebulous belief that it costs me dollars and cents. If we go down that road then we seperate into pet peeve groups who righteously demand their neighbors yield to their diktats.
Gray hair indicates heart conditions-let’s tax them or dye their hair
Poor dental hygiene-could spell a future of medical costs-let’s tax them.
People with large hands, could be Marpfan’s syndrome-could cost me money, let’s tax em.
I think we’re getting off the subject here. The article was about the increase in medical cost for obese people. It’s here and we need to do something about it. Eating heathier is the best option yes but honey it ain’t working! Putting the band on some of these stomachs will do the work. They will lose weight have more energy to start excercising and teach their children portion control. I have two friends that had the procedure done they have turned their lives around plus they look great one of them is taking less medication now for their diabetes less money the insurance company has to pay out, see where I’m coming from? When I go out to lunch with them it makes me want to order something small because they are, but they have to only so much fits in that tightened stomach.
Like most things, it comes down to “who will pay?”. Are we, as a society, able to absorb the costs of treating conditions that are neither accidental or the result of a medical condition? I am not for socialism nor am I supportive of assuming responsibility for someone else’s bad decisions. That’s what life’s all about: making decisions for yourself. You F it up, you clean it up.
I think we are on point, the article mentions the cost as 17% of medical costs and nothing about the increasing cost. It also mentioned the “cost to society” and that got the ball rolling on how to control people. For those obese people with insurance, the market can help control the costs by making it more expensive but the real question revolves aroud those that the government pays for and what can be done. The gist of the response all point to controlling the person and not the cost, so it starts to become a political question. My point is that I object strongly to the government controlling personal choice “behaviors” for the sake of saving money. Maybe my attempts at prescience seemed off track, but they really aren’t.
Tom….you’re free to do whatever you please…..so long as you don’t expect me to pay for it. It’s just a money issue. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. It’s distasteful to have to share the cost for some behemoth who doesn’t care enough to do anything about his/her situation. Nobody’s contributing to my single malt scotch dependancy nor do I expect them to. Anyone who let’s themself go so far that medical treatments are required for an otherwise preventable condition should foot the bill.
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There were no fat people in the Nazi camps in WWII. The bottom line is, if you stop eating, you WILL lose weight. The rest of it is just a cop out. Even people with “genetic” conditions will lose weight if they actually COUNT the calories.
Seems that sense race, gender, ethnic origin, religion, have all been put off the bias list, we are left just to punch the living heck out of fat people. Bipartisanship lives on. Remember, the progressive movement pushed eugenics as a way to solve social issues. From what I see here, the revival of that vile idea is well and getting traction. My take, quit looking at everyone around you as a cost factor that you must demand be controlled. Cannabalism is also a way for some people to loose weight-any volunteers!
Also, don’t fat people live shorter lives, wow-a real plus on the SS side. Whatever happened to live and let live.
The most recent study I’ve read indicates that these multiple genes contribute to a difference of less than 5 pounds in the test subjects. I don’t think the tendency to hold a few extra pounds results in obesity. Obesity is caused by eating too much and exercising too little. Eating too much and exercising too little are caused by a lot of things: emotional and psychological problems like depression and sadness, social pressures, a lack of understanding about healthy diet and healthy weight. It’s both simple and complicated!
My how we have become my brother’s peeper rather than respecting people’s right to do what they wish as long as it doesn’t physically harm another.
Let’s not fall into the trap of cost calculating every human activity or lifestyle based soley on a nebulous belief that it costs me dollars and cents. If we go down that road then we seperate into pet peeve groups who righteously demand their neighbors yield to their diktats.
Gray hair indicates heart conditions-let’s tax them or dye their hair
Poor dental hygiene-could spell a future of medical costs-let’s tax them.
People with large hands, could be Marpfan’s syndrome-could cost me money, let’s tax em.
Coffee drinker, caffeine issue, let’s tak em.
I think we’re getting off the subject here. The article was about the increase in medical cost for obese people. It’s here and we need to do something about it. Eating heathier is the best option yes but honey it ain’t working! Putting the band on some of these stomachs will do the work. They will lose weight have more energy to start excercising and teach their children portion control. I have two friends that had the procedure done they have turned their lives around plus they look great one of them is taking less medication now for their diabetes less money the insurance company has to pay out, see where I’m coming from? When I go out to lunch with them it makes me want to order something small because they are, but they have to only so much fits in that tightened stomach.
All this arguing is stressing me out. . . I think I’ll have a twinkie.
Like most things, it comes down to “who will pay?”. Are we, as a society, able to absorb the costs of treating conditions that are neither accidental or the result of a medical condition? I am not for socialism nor am I supportive of assuming responsibility for someone else’s bad decisions. That’s what life’s all about: making decisions for yourself. You F it up, you clean it up.
I think we are on point, the article mentions the cost as 17% of medical costs and nothing about the increasing cost. It also mentioned the “cost to society” and that got the ball rolling on how to control people. For those obese people with insurance, the market can help control the costs by making it more expensive but the real question revolves aroud those that the government pays for and what can be done. The gist of the response all point to controlling the person and not the cost, so it starts to become a political question. My point is that I object strongly to the government controlling personal choice “behaviors” for the sake of saving money. Maybe my attempts at prescience seemed off track, but they really aren’t.
Tom….you’re free to do whatever you please…..so long as you don’t expect me to pay for it. It’s just a money issue. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. It’s distasteful to have to share the cost for some behemoth who doesn’t care enough to do anything about his/her situation. Nobody’s contributing to my single malt scotch dependancy nor do I expect them to. Anyone who let’s themself go so far that medical treatments are required for an otherwise preventable condition should foot the bill.
History’s lessons sometimes go overlooked. This time the admonition about the rise of Nazi power. Here is the
statement, you be the judge.
“They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.”
I am trying to break that historical trend.