ad, let me give you an example. I was in Australia a couple years ago. Now I think we can all agree that Oz is a pretty swell place overall – but they, overwhelmingly, disliked America. Oh, they loved the people (I was treated VERY well everywhere I went), loved the concept, but didn’t like the practice. They hated that America sticks its nose in everyones’ business. They hated Bush. They thought invading Iraq was stupid. They thought we had our collective heads up our arses over the whole “war on terror” thing (how can one wage war on an emotion?).
Does that mean, were I an Aussie, that America is a bad country? No. They thought America was pretty okay, based on the people.
So, can I think, knowing Iranians as I do, that Iran overall is a pretty okay place that happens to have some messed up people in power? Sure I can. And that doesn’t make me a bad American. It means I can look at a group of people and distinguish them from their leadership. I’m sure you seperated yourself from Clinton while he was in office just as I seperate myself from Bush.
And if you recall history correctly, we stayed out of WWI until the last minute as well. It took an attack on one of our ships to bring us into that one. We didn’t enter any front in WWII until we were attacked. Remember isolationism? That’s what we were practicing back then. We took care of the Americas and the rest of the world took care of itself.
Well lastbat, now you’ve completely changed my mind! My biggest dream now would be to get a movie with Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Barbara Streisand, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, George Soros, etc. etc you get my point. I now see things in an entirely different light. I truly do want to support our local pinkos.
So, are you saying that one can appreciate a country and its people without agreeing with its current policies and practices – or not? Is it possible to like Russians and still not be a fan of Stalin’s killing 26 million of them? Is it possible to like Germany while simultaneously despising what the Nazi regime did? Is it possible to admit that Iran has over 4,000 years of history, rich with culture and advancement, while at the same time saying that for this span of time they seem to be run by crazy people?
I seriously wonder what your definition of acceptance and tolerance is, ad. I’m not saying Iran should be allowed to bomb us. I’m not saying Saddam was a good guy. I’m saying that a country’s people are not fully represented by the rhetoric of its leadership, and that should be recognized.
(And why the hatred toward Communists? I’ve never understood this. It’s a valid political party with a point to make; no different than Republicans. And as far as I know none of the people you named are Communists; they’re probably Democrats, which is not the same thing.)
lastbat, you really need help. I agreed with you and you still blah, blah, blah.
Does pinko mean communist to you? It doesn’t in the dictionary.
I never made any comments about the citizens of Iran and Venezuala. I do not like Sean schmoozing with dictators in other countries. If he a citizen of one of these countries, and were to come to the US and bark out his insults towards the leaders of those countries, at the very least, he would be jailed.
The USA is a great place to be, and for that reason he should be grateful he is a citizen of this country. But no, he is a whiney, spoiled, ungrateful piece of poop. And I for one am still NOT going to spend one red cent on any of his rotten trash.
Now lastbat, are you happy? We’re going to be in the Reader Picks!
Dalton Trumbo
American author
Main
born Dec. 9, 1905, Montrose, Colo., U.S.
died Sept. 10, 1976, Los Angeles
screenwriter and novelist who was probably the most talented member of the Hollywood Ten, one of a group who refused to testify before the 1947 U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities about alleged communist involvement. He was blacklisted and in 1950 spent 11 months in prison.
ad, please don’t debase yourself by acting like an idiot. Pinko has only ever had one usage – as a deragatory for communists. If you wish to act like an idiot, it’s your choice, but it really doesn’t show well.
Gossip pages from Page Six of the NY Times. Oh very reputable sources. What tripe your provide. Guess what Perez Hilton and TMZ factually state about Sean Penn. You’re a bigger joke than I thought.
Lastbat – ad doesn’t believe in tolerance, acceptance or differences in opinion. To use the words from ad – he’s a commie pinko as ad wants everyone to belive only in want ad has to say and believe.
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ad, let me give you an example. I was in Australia a couple years ago. Now I think we can all agree that Oz is a pretty swell place overall – but they, overwhelmingly, disliked America. Oh, they loved the people (I was treated VERY well everywhere I went), loved the concept, but didn’t like the practice. They hated that America sticks its nose in everyones’ business. They hated Bush. They thought invading Iraq was stupid. They thought we had our collective heads up our arses over the whole “war on terror” thing (how can one wage war on an emotion?).
Does that mean, were I an Aussie, that America is a bad country? No. They thought America was pretty okay, based on the people.
So, can I think, knowing Iranians as I do, that Iran overall is a pretty okay place that happens to have some messed up people in power? Sure I can. And that doesn’t make me a bad American. It means I can look at a group of people and distinguish them from their leadership. I’m sure you seperated yourself from Clinton while he was in office just as I seperate myself from Bush.
And if you recall history correctly, we stayed out of WWI until the last minute as well. It took an attack on one of our ships to bring us into that one. We didn’t enter any front in WWII until we were attacked. Remember isolationism? That’s what we were practicing back then. We took care of the Americas and the rest of the world took care of itself.
Well lastbat, now you’ve completely changed my mind! My biggest dream now would be to get a movie with Sean Penn, Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Barbara Streisand, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, George Soros, etc. etc you get my point. I now see things in an entirely different light. I truly do want to support our local pinkos.
So, are you saying that one can appreciate a country and its people without agreeing with its current policies and practices – or not? Is it possible to like Russians and still not be a fan of Stalin’s killing 26 million of them? Is it possible to like Germany while simultaneously despising what the Nazi regime did? Is it possible to admit that Iran has over 4,000 years of history, rich with culture and advancement, while at the same time saying that for this span of time they seem to be run by crazy people?
I seriously wonder what your definition of acceptance and tolerance is, ad. I’m not saying Iran should be allowed to bomb us. I’m not saying Saddam was a good guy. I’m saying that a country’s people are not fully represented by the rhetoric of its leadership, and that should be recognized.
(And why the hatred toward Communists? I’ve never understood this. It’s a valid political party with a point to make; no different than Republicans. And as far as I know none of the people you named are Communists; they’re probably Democrats, which is not the same thing.)
lastbat, you really need help. I agreed with you and you still blah, blah, blah.
Does pinko mean communist to you? It doesn’t in the dictionary.
I never made any comments about the citizens of Iran and Venezuala. I do not like Sean schmoozing with dictators in other countries. If he a citizen of one of these countries, and were to come to the US and bark out his insults towards the leaders of those countries, at the very least, he would be jailed.
The USA is a great place to be, and for that reason he should be grateful he is a citizen of this country. But no, he is a whiney, spoiled, ungrateful piece of poop. And I for one am still NOT going to spend one red cent on any of his rotten trash.
Now lastbat, are you happy? We’re going to be in the Reader Picks!
Got to go. I work for a living.
Dalton Trumbo
American author
Main
born Dec. 9, 1905, Montrose, Colo., U.S.
died Sept. 10, 1976, Los Angeles
screenwriter and novelist who was probably the most talented member of the Hollywood Ten, one of a group who refused to testify before the 1947 U.S. House Committee on Un-American Activities about alleged communist involvement. He was blacklisted and in 1950 spent 11 months in prison.
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ad, please don’t debase yourself by acting like an idiot. Pinko has only ever had one usage – as a deragatory for communists. If you wish to act like an idiot, it’s your choice, but it really doesn’t show well.
No, as “sources” are not fact either. Show me a tape wherein Mr. Penn states your opinion please.
Poor, poor lastbat. He’s lost. He’s resorting to name calling. Poor, poor baby.
Look it up in Merriam Webster. You might learn something.
Gossip pages from Page Six of the NY Times. Oh very reputable sources. What tripe your provide. Guess what Perez Hilton and TMZ factually state about Sean Penn. You’re a bigger joke than I thought.
Lastbat – ad doesn’t believe in tolerance, acceptance or differences in opinion. To use the words from ad – he’s a commie pinko as ad wants everyone to belive only in want ad has to say and believe.