First – it has been pretty well established that when you are out in public there is no expectation of privacy so the cameras have been held to be constitutional.
Second – If your car runs the red light should we just ignore the fact? I think not. It is a dangerous act that could well lead to injury and death. If you weren’t driving at the time, you know who was – get the fine money from them or have them go to court and admit their wrong doing.
Third – cameras won’t chase you in their speeding cop cars risking the rest of us.
Fourth – this could free up the police for more important tasks.
Fifth – cameras catching the speeders – check my comments on the red lights.
As you can tell – I am in favor of the cameras. Not only at the intersections with red lights, but around towns and cities so that the police can monitor the areas must better. Take a look at what has happened in England with a couple of bombings. They were able to crack the cases because of the cameras monitoring the city.
I disagree with these cameras being an infringement on your right to privacy…you driving a car irresponsibly and potentially hitting ME, well, that’s not so private anymore now is it?
When I think of privacy, I think of what you have the right to do in the privacy of your own home, i.e. things that don’t affect others…driving, on the other hand, can affect a whole lot of peole around you.
“the vast majority of motorists do not intentionally run red lights and to do so is most likely a lapse in judgement.”
For Pete sakes, if you are some who has a lapse in judgement and are capable of running the red light, get the hell off the road before you kill someone!
Right to privacy, give me a break! Can’t wait for Camera to be plastered in a every public area in America! We can put the thugs out of business once and for all.
Again, I ask, why does IJ even entertain such crap if the 1,100 people are the barometer of AMerican opinion. The people they are polling are driving 10 under in the left lane. What a frickin joke!
I know it’s hard to believe, but as long as the sample was random, the numbers work. The margin of error does change based on the size of the sample, but with a sample this size, the margin of error is pretty small (I can’t remember, but I think it’s +/- 3%).
Even though the majority of the posts on this site are against camaras, this site is hardly a representative sample of the U.S.
You know after reading the guy from Arizona’s post maybe the electronic cops is not such a bad idea. I obey the rules of the road and watch all these crazies fly by me like they’re running the Indy 500 but then again they can afford the tickets and higher premiums as well.
As for you Mr Hawaii. I plead for the poor guy that is uneducated and trying to take care of themselves working a minimum wage job and /or the person who has fallen on hard times.
Believe me I dislike the irresponsible ying yang as much as the next guy but you have to think about people who have fallen on hard times medical,job loss. The credit rating system just isn’t right in my opinion to charge these people more!
If you blantantly skip out on things you know you’re responsible for then I agree hit them in the pocket but I haven’t seen one post yet that says they breakdown the credit record to adjust premiums one way or the next.
As for Arnie.
No anxiety there pal just statistical data.
Read it and weap or talk to Floridians!
Just listen to this fellow law enforcement officer.
He was/is in the very line of this debate and says this is just another scheme.
I agree with not doing it with traffic lights as this can cuase an unecessary accident.
Speeding! Another scam! Electronics are reliable but not failsafe
The government just wants to be more in your face as well as insurance companies. You know insurance companies will use this device to place you in high risk and raise premiums to MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY!
Damn they already have our medical info to charge us more for medical insurance.
They have our credit records to charge us more for auto insurance and they have mapped out areas of threat mind you not statistical areas where bad weather occurs to charge more for homeowners.
I bet the Mid West part of the Country are holding their breath right now. Get ready friends! Your premiums will be rising too.
If Insurance companies really wanted to charge us more, why have rates been coming down for 3 straight years?
What unsophisticated people don’t understand is that there is a market place out there. Insurance companies will find ways to undercut each other to win business. This current insurance market is cutthroat, the comsumer is winning like crazy.
Why don’t you trust the market place? Next time you are able to make more money because you got a better job offer, don’t take it because it is your obligation to work for less! Next time your home is on the market, and it is worth 200k more because of the marketplace, don’t take it, that would be too greedy!
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My feelings:
First – it has been pretty well established that when you are out in public there is no expectation of privacy so the cameras have been held to be constitutional.
Second – If your car runs the red light should we just ignore the fact? I think not. It is a dangerous act that could well lead to injury and death. If you weren’t driving at the time, you know who was – get the fine money from them or have them go to court and admit their wrong doing.
Third – cameras won’t chase you in their speeding cop cars risking the rest of us.
Fourth – this could free up the police for more important tasks.
Fifth – cameras catching the speeders – check my comments on the red lights.
As you can tell – I am in favor of the cameras. Not only at the intersections with red lights, but around towns and cities so that the police can monitor the areas must better. Take a look at what has happened in England with a couple of bombings. They were able to crack the cases because of the cameras monitoring the city.
I disagree with these cameras being an infringement on your right to privacy…you driving a car irresponsibly and potentially hitting ME, well, that’s not so private anymore now is it?
When I think of privacy, I think of what you have the right to do in the privacy of your own home, i.e. things that don’t affect others…driving, on the other hand, can affect a whole lot of peole around you.
And I agree with you completely Ray. Especially your third reason.
“the vast majority of motorists do not intentionally run red lights and to do so is most likely a lapse in judgement.”
For Pete sakes, if you are some who has a lapse in judgement and are capable of running the red light, get the hell off the road before you kill someone!
Right to privacy, give me a break! Can’t wait for Camera to be plastered in a every public area in America! We can put the thugs out of business once and for all.
Again, I ask, why does IJ even entertain such crap if the 1,100 people are the barometer of AMerican opinion. The people they are polling are driving 10 under in the left lane. What a frickin joke!
Unbelievable,
I know it’s hard to believe, but as long as the sample was random, the numbers work. The margin of error does change based on the size of the sample, but with a sample this size, the margin of error is pretty small (I can’t remember, but I think it’s +/- 3%).
Even though the majority of the posts on this site are against camaras, this site is hardly a representative sample of the U.S.
You know after reading the guy from Arizona’s post maybe the electronic cops is not such a bad idea. I obey the rules of the road and watch all these crazies fly by me like they’re running the Indy 500 but then again they can afford the tickets and higher premiums as well.
As for you Mr Hawaii. I plead for the poor guy that is uneducated and trying to take care of themselves working a minimum wage job and /or the person who has fallen on hard times.
Believe me I dislike the irresponsible ying yang as much as the next guy but you have to think about people who have fallen on hard times medical,job loss. The credit rating system just isn’t right in my opinion to charge these people more!
If you blantantly skip out on things you know you’re responsible for then I agree hit them in the pocket but I haven’t seen one post yet that says they breakdown the credit record to adjust premiums one way or the next.
As for Arnie.
No anxiety there pal just statistical data.
Read it and weap or talk to Floridians!
Just listen to this fellow law enforcement officer.
He was/is in the very line of this debate and says this is just another scheme.
I agree with not doing it with traffic lights as this can cuase an unecessary accident.
Speeding! Another scam! Electronics are reliable but not failsafe
The government just wants to be more in your face as well as insurance companies. You know insurance companies will use this device to place you in high risk and raise premiums to MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY!
Damn they already have our medical info to charge us more for medical insurance.
They have our credit records to charge us more for auto insurance and they have mapped out areas of threat mind you not statistical areas where bad weather occurs to charge more for homeowners.
I bet the Mid West part of the Country are holding their breath right now. Get ready friends! Your premiums will be rising too.
If Insurance companies really wanted to charge us more, why have rates been coming down for 3 straight years?
What unsophisticated people don’t understand is that there is a market place out there. Insurance companies will find ways to undercut each other to win business. This current insurance market is cutthroat, the comsumer is winning like crazy.
Why don’t you trust the market place? Next time you are able to make more money because you got a better job offer, don’t take it because it is your obligation to work for less! Next time your home is on the market, and it is worth 200k more because of the marketplace, don’t take it, that would be too greedy!