You guys missed the point & only keyed in on your own opinions in opposition to others. I saw nothing in your posts that really offered any insight to moving forward or working together to avert another disaster of this magnitude. Whatever happened to constructive comments? Or were they lost on you?
So, what was the \”reasoning\” for turning down foreign aid??
The \”article\’s reason\” is basically Rice stating that the U.S. was \”not used to accepting foreign aid\” as if there was no system in place. Which again, I question. You mean the U.S. has never in it\’s history ever accepted forign aid? Nothing from Sept. 11th? I don\’t know. It still seems like a very lame reason Rice gave….accoring to the article.
I think it just proves once again Rice\’s uselessness and incompetence. Even if there was no system in place, create one. Successful businesses come across instances like this all the time and they adapt. Only the government can throw up their hands and play stupid because the tax money will keep pouring in regardless if they have the mental ability to actually do what they are paid to do. Most of the people affected by Katrina were poor and probably pay such a small portion of the tax monies that the empty suits in washington could care less about an acceptable response time. Had rich republicans or liberals been affected and left roaming the streets for help I can guarantee suddenly a plan would have developed at a much more rapid pace. I voted for Bush but have grown a distaste for his ineffective and pathetic leadership. I blame a lot of that on the morons that he appoints as advisors and places in vital positions such as Rice\’s position. Although they are his choices so that makes him an unfortunate moron as well. Bureaucracy is at it\’s worse again here in this article. I can somewhat understand not accepting aid from arab nations which are basically always are enemies regardless if they have their sheep\’s costumes on. Although I think we can accept Kuwait\’s aid without really being concerned. The other non-arab nations that we turned is stupid and just makes us look to cocky to take help from smaller nations, when it would actually make a difference no matter how small it is.
My comment was intended to direct those of you who choose to criticize to conduct more research, consider the facts, and then comment intelligently.
It is important to realize that there is more to running a government than most of us understand. Of course, foreign aid usually entails strings. For example, study the IMF and World Bank. Even if we do not see the strings, they exist anyway.
Also, there may be other underlying issues. Delegation of any aid may not always be a poor choice. Doesn’t a settlor delegate a trustee to manage the corpus of a trust? Why didn’t Kuwait offer to give 100 million in cash and 400 million in oil to other organizations ready to handle accepting donations like the Red Cross or the private Katrina aid group mentioned?
Perhaps there may be appropriations considerations. Perhaps Kuwait had time considerations and withdrew offers if not used in a certain way by a time certain. We just don’t know. We could draw one tiny inference if the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US said something regarding “the fastest way to get money to the people that needed it” and speculate that speed and time was at issue. Was the US equipped to facilitate appropriations at a rapid pace or was the Red Cross better equipped? I don’t know.
Anyhow, my point is that none of us know all the little nuances and reasons why the US couldn’t accept all of this aid. Perhaps college professors may be better equipped to discuss this intelligently, not us insurance people.
I am just totally disgusted when I hear careless and reckless criticism feverishly tossed into the conversation like slop to a hog with no respect or care for fact, knowledge, research and truth. The saddest part is that we (most of us) run to partisan junk discussions just like hungry swine to a feeding trough.
As to my opinion on the article, I have none. I’m not qualified to make a judgment call either way. I’m to busy working on work and other things for my family to keep up with all of the affairs of the government. I guess I prefer to pay taxes and vote and have someone more qualified make these types of decisions as best they can for my benefit.
Sure, if the US doesn\’t have a system, just create one! Such fundamentalist thinking doesn\’t usually work. If the US doesnt\’ have a system, why didn\’t Kuwait simply give the money and oil aid to other organizations. Could it be because they wanted to help out or ask for special considerations? Think….was there a reason why they chose not to give aid to the US when we were slow to appropriate? Is it the US or is it the motivations of Kuwait? I don\’t have the answers. You apparently have ALL the answers. Maybe you should be Secretary of State…..(ha ha), NOT!!!!
Thank you, New Orleans. It\’s amazing how many simple minded critics come out of the woodwork jawing on articles absent fact yet loaded down with spin.
Get off of your high horse RI Attorney. I doubt anyone here is truly qualified to make ANY comment (including yourself). But this is a forum for DISCUSSION, correct?
Am I mad that medicine from Italy went to waste? Damn right I am. Am I mad that cruise ships weren\’t allowed to be used as alternative housing? Absolutely!
Do I understand why America would not accept aid from a country like Kuwait? YES!! (I\’m not one to dance with the devil, either.)
As usual, there is a middle ground here that no one can even dream of because people are sadly caught up in this political game of red rover, red rover.
I don\’t think any of the people commenting on their disgust deserve to be criticized nor ridiculed for their OPINIONS.
You mentioned that you can\’t comment because you are not qualified? Well then what makes you so qualified to tell people they are wrong about their OPINIONS????
Since you\’re so busy with life, please don\’t respond. I\’d hate to deter you from something of importance seeing how you have already managed to squeeze umpteen posts into your full day.
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You guys missed the point & only keyed in on your own opinions in opposition to others. I saw nothing in your posts that really offered any insight to moving forward or working together to avert another disaster of this magnitude. Whatever happened to constructive comments? Or were they lost on you?
So, what was the \”reasoning\” for turning down foreign aid??
The \”article\’s reason\” is basically Rice stating that the U.S. was \”not used to accepting foreign aid\” as if there was no system in place. Which again, I question. You mean the U.S. has never in it\’s history ever accepted forign aid? Nothing from Sept. 11th? I don\’t know. It still seems like a very lame reason Rice gave….accoring to the article.
I think it just proves once again Rice\’s uselessness and incompetence. Even if there was no system in place, create one. Successful businesses come across instances like this all the time and they adapt. Only the government can throw up their hands and play stupid because the tax money will keep pouring in regardless if they have the mental ability to actually do what they are paid to do. Most of the people affected by Katrina were poor and probably pay such a small portion of the tax monies that the empty suits in washington could care less about an acceptable response time. Had rich republicans or liberals been affected and left roaming the streets for help I can guarantee suddenly a plan would have developed at a much more rapid pace. I voted for Bush but have grown a distaste for his ineffective and pathetic leadership. I blame a lot of that on the morons that he appoints as advisors and places in vital positions such as Rice\’s position. Although they are his choices so that makes him an unfortunate moron as well. Bureaucracy is at it\’s worse again here in this article. I can somewhat understand not accepting aid from arab nations which are basically always are enemies regardless if they have their sheep\’s costumes on. Although I think we can accept Kuwait\’s aid without really being concerned. The other non-arab nations that we turned is stupid and just makes us look to cocky to take help from smaller nations, when it would actually make a difference no matter how small it is.
My comment was intended to direct those of you who choose to criticize to conduct more research, consider the facts, and then comment intelligently.
It is important to realize that there is more to running a government than most of us understand. Of course, foreign aid usually entails strings. For example, study the IMF and World Bank. Even if we do not see the strings, they exist anyway.
Also, there may be other underlying issues. Delegation of any aid may not always be a poor choice. Doesn’t a settlor delegate a trustee to manage the corpus of a trust? Why didn’t Kuwait offer to give 100 million in cash and 400 million in oil to other organizations ready to handle accepting donations like the Red Cross or the private Katrina aid group mentioned?
Perhaps there may be appropriations considerations. Perhaps Kuwait had time considerations and withdrew offers if not used in a certain way by a time certain. We just don’t know. We could draw one tiny inference if the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US said something regarding “the fastest way to get money to the people that needed it” and speculate that speed and time was at issue. Was the US equipped to facilitate appropriations at a rapid pace or was the Red Cross better equipped? I don’t know.
Anyhow, my point is that none of us know all the little nuances and reasons why the US couldn’t accept all of this aid. Perhaps college professors may be better equipped to discuss this intelligently, not us insurance people.
I am just totally disgusted when I hear careless and reckless criticism feverishly tossed into the conversation like slop to a hog with no respect or care for fact, knowledge, research and truth. The saddest part is that we (most of us) run to partisan junk discussions just like hungry swine to a feeding trough.
As to my opinion on the article, I have none. I’m not qualified to make a judgment call either way. I’m to busy working on work and other things for my family to keep up with all of the affairs of the government. I guess I prefer to pay taxes and vote and have someone more qualified make these types of decisions as best they can for my benefit.
Sure, if the US doesn\’t have a system, just create one! Such fundamentalist thinking doesn\’t usually work. If the US doesnt\’ have a system, why didn\’t Kuwait simply give the money and oil aid to other organizations. Could it be because they wanted to help out or ask for special considerations? Think….was there a reason why they chose not to give aid to the US when we were slow to appropriate? Is it the US or is it the motivations of Kuwait? I don\’t have the answers. You apparently have ALL the answers. Maybe you should be Secretary of State…..(ha ha), NOT!!!!
Realist seems to be on the same page as those of us who choose not to be critical before examining all the facts.
GOOD FOR YOU!!!!
We dont need aid from foreigners, thank you very much.
Thank you, New Orleans. It\’s amazing how many simple minded critics come out of the woodwork jawing on articles absent fact yet loaded down with spin.
Get off of your high horse RI Attorney. I doubt anyone here is truly qualified to make ANY comment (including yourself). But this is a forum for DISCUSSION, correct?
Am I mad that medicine from Italy went to waste? Damn right I am. Am I mad that cruise ships weren\’t allowed to be used as alternative housing? Absolutely!
Do I understand why America would not accept aid from a country like Kuwait? YES!! (I\’m not one to dance with the devil, either.)
As usual, there is a middle ground here that no one can even dream of because people are sadly caught up in this political game of red rover, red rover.
I don\’t think any of the people commenting on their disgust deserve to be criticized nor ridiculed for their OPINIONS.
You mentioned that you can\’t comment because you are not qualified? Well then what makes you so qualified to tell people they are wrong about their OPINIONS????
Since you\’re so busy with life, please don\’t respond. I\’d hate to deter you from something of importance seeing how you have already managed to squeeze umpteen posts into your full day.