Yes I would be just as upset, again $11 per month for disability insurance is not a lot.
Not to mention this working class person who was so dillegent their entire life should be responsible enough to plan for every eventuality.
Not my responsiblity for people on welfare or people with jobs, when the coverage is very affordable.
In fact my husband didnt have the coverage when I met him and went in for a surgery that left him disabled for quite sometime, do you think I paid his bills, no I told him you should have had Afleck or gotten it from your State Farm agent. again I dont care who it is protect yourself.
You\’ve never been poor, have you Jennifer? While I am happy enough to give you a cookie for putting yourself through college without even getting help from mommy and daddy, you still don\’t get the point. I\’m sure that for someone as brilliant as you, getting into and through college while still working was an feasible option. Here\’s the rub- not everyone can handle college as well as you did. Some people just weren\’t blessed with your intelligence. Then what happens? They go get a full time job (since having several part time jobs is apparently unacceptable to you) where they possibly aren\’t paid adequately. All of the sudden, they\’re supporting themselves on an income that doesn\’t keep up with the cost of living. Then they start buying things and running up their credit cards. You\’re right; Jennifer. How DARE they buy groceries on credit if they can\’t pay it off?! Don\’t they know you shouldn\’t eat if you can\’t afford it? Bottom line, you\’ve correctly identified one subset of people living in poverty; but you\’ve completely omitted and horribly offended many others.
Being raised by a single mother who worked two jobs to support my brother and I…I have been around more poverty then you could ever begin to imagine, but the point is that I dont blame others for it, I dont expect anything for it. I dont spend my life feeling guilty for what others dont have or cant afford. Mommy and Daddy couldn’t have afforded to put me through college and I don’t deserve medal for making it on my own.
Lets remember we are NOT an impoverished country. This is not a third world country where food and jobs are scare. It is a matter of what people are willing to do to make their budgets, their households and there lives work. We live in a country that immigrants flock to, because they know that Americans wont take the jobs that aren’t glamourous or that we feel are beneath us to do. They pay their bills and make it just fine, which is why guilt for someone who didn’t plan ahead is a difficult feeling to conjure up. It is fine that you are anti Jennifer, just take comfort in the fact that you wont have to pay to keep me comfortable for the rest of my life…..
I really like when people bring money into the discussion. :) So, here I go: Some people start off with little and make it work. Some start off with little and TRY to make it work, but unfortunately they don\’t succeed (often not through their own fault). Some start off with little and do NOTHING to make it work. Again, this goes back to personal responsibility. I have a friend who works 2 jobs and is a single mother of 2. She just recently decided to go to college. She couldn\’t go to the local college (couldn\’t spend enough time there to qualify as full time; therefore, no financial aid). Apparently, she could enroll in \”online college\” and receive the loans and grants. I agree that not everyone is right for college (intelligence is not always the reason) and I agree it is hard to find jobs that will pay enough. But, lots of people do it all the time. People who use coupons, buy rice and mac and cheese for lunch and dinner, don\’t go to the movies or buy lattes. And then on the flip side, there are those who spend money they don\’t have on NON-ESSENTIAL items (do you really NEED to buy coffee at 7-11 or Starbucks? uhm, no!). How do we distinguish those people from the others? We can\’t; but I can tell you I do not want to have to pay for them in the future. I work hard for my money (and even if I didn\’t); I will choose who to share it with thank you very much.
Be careful when suggesting people eat mac & cheese and ramen noodles…all of those starchy carbohydrates could lead to Diabetes or other heath problems and then we\’d have to pay for higher insurance premiums either way.
pin a rose on your nose for getting yourself through college….I\’m sure you stand alone in that arena, so preach on sister. but maybe we should start at the source. in home ECONOMICS, i had to learn how to sew and cook. why not also teach a kid how to balance a check book and invest money????? that way when they get to college, they stand a better chance of having a little kitty saved up and won\’t be so easily seduced by a t-shirt just to get a line of credit?
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Yes I would be just as upset, again $11 per month for disability insurance is not a lot.
Not to mention this working class person who was so dillegent their entire life should be responsible enough to plan for every eventuality.
Not my responsiblity for people on welfare or people with jobs, when the coverage is very affordable.
In fact my husband didnt have the coverage when I met him and went in for a surgery that left him disabled for quite sometime, do you think I paid his bills, no I told him you should have had Afleck or gotten it from your State Farm agent. again I dont care who it is protect yourself.
*Jennifer bows graciously to Jennifer #2
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You\’ve never been poor, have you Jennifer? While I am happy enough to give you a cookie for putting yourself through college without even getting help from mommy and daddy, you still don\’t get the point. I\’m sure that for someone as brilliant as you, getting into and through college while still working was an feasible option. Here\’s the rub- not everyone can handle college as well as you did. Some people just weren\’t blessed with your intelligence. Then what happens? They go get a full time job (since having several part time jobs is apparently unacceptable to you) where they possibly aren\’t paid adequately. All of the sudden, they\’re supporting themselves on an income that doesn\’t keep up with the cost of living. Then they start buying things and running up their credit cards. You\’re right; Jennifer. How DARE they buy groceries on credit if they can\’t pay it off?! Don\’t they know you shouldn\’t eat if you can\’t afford it? Bottom line, you\’ve correctly identified one subset of people living in poverty; but you\’ve completely omitted and horribly offended many others.
Being raised by a single mother who worked two jobs to support my brother and I…I have been around more poverty then you could ever begin to imagine, but the point is that I dont blame others for it, I dont expect anything for it. I dont spend my life feeling guilty for what others dont have or cant afford. Mommy and Daddy couldn’t have afforded to put me through college and I don’t deserve medal for making it on my own.
Lets remember we are NOT an impoverished country. This is not a third world country where food and jobs are scare. It is a matter of what people are willing to do to make their budgets, their households and there lives work. We live in a country that immigrants flock to, because they know that Americans wont take the jobs that aren’t glamourous or that we feel are beneath us to do. They pay their bills and make it just fine, which is why guilt for someone who didn’t plan ahead is a difficult feeling to conjure up. It is fine that you are anti Jennifer, just take comfort in the fact that you wont have to pay to keep me comfortable for the rest of my life…..
I really like when people bring money into the discussion. :) So, here I go: Some people start off with little and make it work. Some start off with little and TRY to make it work, but unfortunately they don\’t succeed (often not through their own fault). Some start off with little and do NOTHING to make it work. Again, this goes back to personal responsibility. I have a friend who works 2 jobs and is a single mother of 2. She just recently decided to go to college. She couldn\’t go to the local college (couldn\’t spend enough time there to qualify as full time; therefore, no financial aid). Apparently, she could enroll in \”online college\” and receive the loans and grants. I agree that not everyone is right for college (intelligence is not always the reason) and I agree it is hard to find jobs that will pay enough. But, lots of people do it all the time. People who use coupons, buy rice and mac and cheese for lunch and dinner, don\’t go to the movies or buy lattes. And then on the flip side, there are those who spend money they don\’t have on NON-ESSENTIAL items (do you really NEED to buy coffee at 7-11 or Starbucks? uhm, no!). How do we distinguish those people from the others? We can\’t; but I can tell you I do not want to have to pay for them in the future. I work hard for my money (and even if I didn\’t); I will choose who to share it with thank you very much.
Be careful when suggesting people eat mac & cheese and ramen noodles…all of those starchy carbohydrates could lead to Diabetes or other heath problems and then we\’d have to pay for higher insurance premiums either way.
pin a rose on your nose for getting yourself through college….I\’m sure you stand alone in that arena, so preach on sister. but maybe we should start at the source. in home ECONOMICS, i had to learn how to sew and cook. why not also teach a kid how to balance a check book and invest money????? that way when they get to college, they stand a better chance of having a little kitty saved up and won\’t be so easily seduced by a t-shirt just to get a line of credit?