I agree with \”no name\”. Automobiles do not cause motorcyclists to crash. Inexperience and arrogance cause motorcyclists to crash. Helmuts only protect the rider from severe trauma. Don\’t want to wear because it \”makes you feel free and manly\” then fine, be a vegetable on your own dime and just sign this waiver releasing liability of any and all parties except yourself.
There is no logic for a car driver to wear a helmut. Are you naturally stupid or do you work hard at it? Now maybe if you said don\’t drive and talk on the phone your argument might have been logical. Your comments about the bathtub are equally stupid. As for the boat, one should wear a lifejacket or run the risk of drowning. This is prevention, prevention of a death. It appears your ego is too big to see the truth.
If \”no logic for a car driver to wear a [helmet]\”, then why do NASCAR drivers wear one? And if you slipped in the
shower, which would you rather hit the hot water handle first, your forehead … or your helmet? And thanks for the
tip on life jackets. I think ALL motorists should wear one, just in case they go off a bridge!
Automobiles do not cause motorcyclists to crash. Inexperience and arrogance cause motorcyclists to crash.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
If that statement summarizes your familiarity with the statistics, then I fear you have established that neither reason, research nor a fundamental grasp of scientific methodology are likely present in your neural net.
Excuse me Bruce but why is it that every time I go to LdrLongDistanceRider.com and attempt to express a critical view my
post is deleted and my IP address is blocked?
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
I have no idea. Did you have words with someone at Bravenet, maybe? If you are having problems posting to our forum,
email your posting directly to me … or Madd Ray … or RC … and we will be happy to post it for you.
Go to Myrtle Beach during Memorial Day weekend and see how wreckless \”the bikers\” are.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
Get on any freeway in America and see how wreckless \”the short soccer moms weaving between lanes in oversized SUVs
with one pinkie on the steering wheel they can\’t see over while the rest of that hand holds their Starbucks
Frappacino and the other hand keeps a cell phone glued to their ear discussing yesterday\’s episode of
Days of Our Lives as they crane their necks over their seats to shout at their spoiled brat kids\” are.
Look, bottomline, if you ride and I do, you will and I repeat will be involved in an accident at some point. If you
survive depends a great deal on your skill and your protective equipment. Your rights stop when I as a rider and
tax payer have to pay higher rates or taxes to wipe you off the asphalt because you want to have the right to do
whatever you want. By the way, I don\’t really care how old you are or how experienced you are where the right
equipment and you have a better chance of walking away relatively unharmed. It doesn\’t work in every case, but the
percentages are in your favor.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
You have TOTALLY missed the point. The best way to avoid the injuries and fatalities associated with motorcycle
accidents is to PREVENT the accidents from occuring in the first place. What\’s the best use of your tax dollars,
Clewless? Treating the symptoms, or curing the disease?
I don\’t believe the general public realizes the risks you take getting on a bike, they don\’t take into consideration
that a motorcycle stops much faster so they need to leave more space. Sad fact is that unless you are going to make
people go to safety classes specifically designed to educate motorcyclists and drivers alike on these differences
this problem will continue to grow…
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
Cagers will not start \”seeing\” motorcycles with their eyes until their minds start \”seeing\” the act of injuring or
killing a biker as a source of risk, harm, injury or mortality for themselves. Yes, the state can teach them that.
MAYBE. Or we bikers can teach them that. FOR SURE.
The cause of the accident has little to do with the survival rate (other than alcohol), but helmets obviously do.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
This statement is nothing more than blatant prevarication conjuncted with subterfuge. If the cause of accident was a butterfly splattering on the glasses of one biker, versus a negligent eighteen wheeler splattering the helmet visor of the other, you gonna say that the \”cause of the accident has little to do with the survival rate\”? And \”helmets obviously do\”?
Get real. According to NHTSA\’s own statistics as quoted by Lautenberg, \”almost half of these deaths involve riders who are not wearing helmets.\” Which means, Pinocchio, that MORE THAN HALF OF THE RIDERS WERE WEARING HELMETS AND DIED ANYWAY!
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I agree with \”no name\”. Automobiles do not cause motorcyclists to crash. Inexperience and arrogance cause motorcyclists to crash. Helmuts only protect the rider from severe trauma. Don\’t want to wear because it \”makes you feel free and manly\” then fine, be a vegetable on your own dime and just sign this waiver releasing liability of any and all parties except yourself.
There is no logic for a car driver to wear a helmut. Are you naturally stupid or do you work hard at it? Now maybe if you said don\’t drive and talk on the phone your argument might have been logical. Your comments about the bathtub are equally stupid. As for the boat, one should wear a lifejacket or run the risk of drowning. This is prevention, prevention of a death. It appears your ego is too big to see the truth.
If \”no logic for a car driver to wear a [helmet]\”, then why do NASCAR drivers wear one? And if you slipped in the
shower, which would you rather hit the hot water handle first, your forehead … or your helmet? And thanks for the
tip on life jackets. I think ALL motorists should wear one, just in case they go off a bridge!
Cager 8 Says:
Automobiles do not cause motorcyclists to crash. Inexperience and arrogance cause motorcyclists to crash.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
If that statement summarizes your familiarity with the statistics, then I fear you have established that neither reason, research nor a fundamental grasp of scientific methodology are likely present in your neural net.
Clewless 7 Says:
Excuse me Bruce but why is it that every time I go to LdrLongDistanceRider.com and attempt to express a critical view my
post is deleted and my IP address is blocked?
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
I have no idea. Did you have words with someone at Bravenet, maybe? If you are having problems posting to our forum,
email your posting directly to me … or Madd Ray … or RC … and we will be happy to post it for you.
Cager 7 Says:
Go to Myrtle Beach during Memorial Day weekend and see how wreckless \”the bikers\” are.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
Get on any freeway in America and see how wreckless \”the short soccer moms weaving between lanes in oversized SUVs
with one pinkie on the steering wheel they can\’t see over while the rest of that hand holds their Starbucks
Frappacino and the other hand keeps a cell phone glued to their ear discussing yesterday\’s episode of
Days of Our Lives as they crane their necks over their seats to shout at their spoiled brat kids\” are.
LdrLongDistanceRider_com , Do you know what weekend that happens in Myrtle Beach??
Clewless 6 Says:
Look, bottomline, if you ride and I do, you will and I repeat will be involved in an accident at some point. If you
survive depends a great deal on your skill and your protective equipment. Your rights stop when I as a rider and
tax payer have to pay higher rates or taxes to wipe you off the asphalt because you want to have the right to do
whatever you want. By the way, I don\’t really care how old you are or how experienced you are where the right
equipment and you have a better chance of walking away relatively unharmed. It doesn\’t work in every case, but the
percentages are in your favor.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
You have TOTALLY missed the point. The best way to avoid the injuries and fatalities associated with motorcycle
accidents is to PREVENT the accidents from occuring in the first place. What\’s the best use of your tax dollars,
Clewless? Treating the symptoms, or curing the disease?
Clewless 5 Says:
I don\’t believe the general public realizes the risks you take getting on a bike, they don\’t take into consideration
that a motorcycle stops much faster so they need to leave more space. Sad fact is that unless you are going to make
people go to safety classes specifically designed to educate motorcyclists and drivers alike on these differences
this problem will continue to grow…
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
Cagers will not start \”seeing\” motorcycles with their eyes until their minds start \”seeing\” the act of injuring or
killing a biker as a source of risk, harm, injury or mortality for themselves. Yes, the state can teach them that.
MAYBE. Or we bikers can teach them that. FOR SURE.
Cager 4 Says:
The cause of the accident has little to do with the survival rate (other than alcohol), but helmets obviously do.
LdrLongDistanceRider.com Says:
This statement is nothing more than blatant prevarication conjuncted with subterfuge. If the cause of accident was a butterfly splattering on the glasses of one biker, versus a negligent eighteen wheeler splattering the helmet visor of the other, you gonna say that the \”cause of the accident has little to do with the survival rate\”? And \”helmets obviously do\”?
Get real. According to NHTSA\’s own statistics as quoted by Lautenberg, \”almost half of these deaths involve riders who are not wearing helmets.\” Which means, Pinocchio, that MORE THAN HALF OF THE RIDERS WERE WEARING HELMETS AND DIED ANYWAY!