You are so right about the naysayers. They aren’t factual or fair but they are loud, persistent and funded by big oil and Fox. They come out of the woodwork whenever more evidence about climate change is published and have nothing credible to refute it except anecdotes. I wonder if they ever ask themselves, what am I doing to my grandkids’ future? It amazes me that some work in the insurance business yet don’t want to face the truth about risk. Even George Bush has finally come around.
Way to go right to the ad hominem attacks. CO2 doesn’t cause global warming water vapor causes most of it, ever hear of humidity? The amount of carbon produced by human activity is infitesemle compared to nature. Besides carbon is a finite resource – the carbon released from coal/oil was in the atmosphere and then trapped by plants etc, then released by us. Plants capture carbon until released by decay or burning. Evenif there were no humans, the climate would still warm and cool.
Although I”m no scientist, I do know that the earth’s temperature goes in cycles. Is it caused by humans, probably not, but who cares! Why can’t we focus on what we “humans” can control – Pollution? I think there is a sensible way to reduce “Pollution” without the “sky is falling” mentality of “global warming”.
Yes we need to take care of our planet, but the earth is only our temporary home. If you really want to know how the world will end, don’t look to the science community look to the Bible.
“They (the dreaded “climate change deniers”) aren’t factual or fair but they are loud, persistent and funded by big oil”
Really? Why is it that one of the groups that lobbied the hardest for “carbon taxes” to supposedly fight “global warming” was formed by (drum roll, please)BP? Oh, it might have something to do with the fact that the “Cap & Trade” would put heavy regulations & taxes on coal burning power plants and force, er, encourage, them to switch to natural gas. And who has possibly the most natural gas reserves in the world? Come on people, I don’t need to tell you this, do I? Yes, that’s right, it’s BP.
Please, any time you see political activity, follow the money. These people are interested in only stuffing their pockets at everyone else’s expense. Politicians and bureaucrats are no better than whores (with apologies to the whores).
I used to teach earth science and the one thing we can bank on is this is just part of the cycle. Do humans cause some of it? Maybe. Are temps going up. Yes. Are they going up as much as the alarmist say? No. Is there manipulation of results to get bigger grants or to push political agendas? Yes to a sickening point.
There are many cycles never mentioned that occur every 10K years that cause glaciation and heating.
It does not take a scientist to figure out that treating our atmosphere or oceans like a toilet bowl is a bad thing. But to to draw 100% causal links among increased global temperatures, increased hurricane activity and human activity is a stretch if not impossible.
Back in the 70s there was an article that was widely accepted by the scientific community discussing global cooling!
Then there is the ozone whole which may be natural altogether. There is a natural expansion and contraction of that hole and they only produce the results when it is at the maximum.
Another sound study discusses how there is systematic errors in the current research because of the locations where we take temps which are in cities and airports. These are heat sinks and are going to exagerate the results. Net gain once normalized was determined to be .5 degrees in 20 years. Inconclusive evidense regarding the the cause but non the less important.
Bill, thank you for proving my point about the new age religion, climatology. Anyone who has the audacity to try and bring logic and common sense into this argument is branded a “denier” (devil), and should be cast out. If you don’t see the parrallels, I won’t be surprised. In this case, being an agnostic would serve everyone well.
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Brian and Tom for President.
You are so right about the naysayers. They aren’t factual or fair but they are loud, persistent and funded by big oil and Fox. They come out of the woodwork whenever more evidence about climate change is published and have nothing credible to refute it except anecdotes. I wonder if they ever ask themselves, what am I doing to my grandkids’ future? It amazes me that some work in the insurance business yet don’t want to face the truth about risk. Even George Bush has finally come around.
This is ********; give it up already.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. George Soros told me so. And he’s got BIG money.
… on this topic was that a bunch of “scientists” had been caught shredding emails evidencing their fraud. How short our memories are.
Way to go right to the ad hominem attacks. CO2 doesn’t cause global warming water vapor causes most of it, ever hear of humidity? The amount of carbon produced by human activity is infitesemle compared to nature. Besides carbon is a finite resource – the carbon released from coal/oil was in the atmosphere and then trapped by plants etc, then released by us. Plants capture carbon until released by decay or burning. Evenif there were no humans, the climate would still warm and cool.
Although I”m no scientist, I do know that the earth’s temperature goes in cycles. Is it caused by humans, probably not, but who cares! Why can’t we focus on what we “humans” can control – Pollution? I think there is a sensible way to reduce “Pollution” without the “sky is falling” mentality of “global warming”.
Yes we need to take care of our planet, but the earth is only our temporary home. If you really want to know how the world will end, don’t look to the science community look to the Bible.
“They (the dreaded “climate change deniers”) aren’t factual or fair but they are loud, persistent and funded by big oil”
Really? Why is it that one of the groups that lobbied the hardest for “carbon taxes” to supposedly fight “global warming” was formed by (drum roll, please)BP? Oh, it might have something to do with the fact that the “Cap & Trade” would put heavy regulations & taxes on coal burning power plants and force, er, encourage, them to switch to natural gas. And who has possibly the most natural gas reserves in the world? Come on people, I don’t need to tell you this, do I? Yes, that’s right, it’s BP.
Please, any time you see political activity, follow the money. These people are interested in only stuffing their pockets at everyone else’s expense. Politicians and bureaucrats are no better than whores (with apologies to the whores).
Well said Hmm.
I used to teach earth science and the one thing we can bank on is this is just part of the cycle. Do humans cause some of it? Maybe. Are temps going up. Yes. Are they going up as much as the alarmist say? No. Is there manipulation of results to get bigger grants or to push political agendas? Yes to a sickening point.
There are many cycles never mentioned that occur every 10K years that cause glaciation and heating.
It does not take a scientist to figure out that treating our atmosphere or oceans like a toilet bowl is a bad thing. But to to draw 100% causal links among increased global temperatures, increased hurricane activity and human activity is a stretch if not impossible.
Back in the 70s there was an article that was widely accepted by the scientific community discussing global cooling!
Then there is the ozone whole which may be natural altogether. There is a natural expansion and contraction of that hole and they only produce the results when it is at the maximum.
Another sound study discusses how there is systematic errors in the current research because of the locations where we take temps which are in cities and airports. These are heat sinks and are going to exagerate the results. Net gain once normalized was determined to be .5 degrees in 20 years. Inconclusive evidense regarding the the cause but non the less important.
Bill, thank you for proving my point about the new age religion, climatology. Anyone who has the audacity to try and bring logic and common sense into this argument is branded a “denier” (devil), and should be cast out. If you don’t see the parrallels, I won’t be surprised. In this case, being an agnostic would serve everyone well.