well, first of all, if you read the article, it said they all got ejected out of the vehicle. which means, none of them were wearing seatbelts!!! in most states that is against the law for being without. so the young child that was in the vehicle might, again, might have been rescued. the father would have been in the vehicle getting out of a seatbelt and getting his daughter out at the same time. i agree a life lost is valuable we all grieve for such. my heart goes out to the family, but then again, he should have known many things or put at least 2+2 together.
Exactly Amazed! That was my point too! To think of all the ‘could’ve’s would’ve’s should’ve’s’ is ridiculous. You weren’t there and don’t know exactly what happened. Everyone reacts differently in a situation like this. I agree that the campground owners shouldn’t be held liable. This is just something very unfortunate that happened and finger pointing isn’t helping anyone.
Holy crap! The poor father? that’s just it, he hopes to NOT be poor anymore by making someone else take the fall and let him cash in…and he found an attorney with a willing, sympathetic ear, of course…this guy needs to be honest with himself!
There is some facts I have found in researching this article which have not been mentioned here, here is what I have found so far.
1.the levee up stream had let go and the flood waters were 200ft wide by approximately 8ft deep there is videos showing this on youtube and various news outlets (not even the rescue team could attempt to reach the vehicle until waters subsided).
2. the road they were crossing gave way under thier SUV on impact the father was able to get out I am unsure of his seatbelt status however he was screaming his wife and kids were still buckeled in the car.
3. a report says when the mother unbuckled her seatbelt she was able to turn and unbuckle her son at which point they were both sucked out of the car by the force of the water leaving the daughter trapped(which by this account shows 3 of them were buckled in).
Also the premise for the lawsuit which this article fails to mention is that the campground owners were on tape at a FEMA meeting prior to this accident stating that this has happened previously and that the levees upstream had a propensity to let go and had done so in the past it also states that the family had questioned the safety of making the trip to the owners and were not made aware of potential flooding problems. Just trying to add some things I found at other news outlets.
Nevau makes some interesting comments. I also ready some other information than contained in the IJ article which raised some questions. If what Nevau says is right on, then the lawsuit will easily be won by the plaintiff. The information Nevau provides seems to indicate that the campground should have been closed/relocated long ago because of its hazardous location.
i don’t think anything will happen to this campground. you take a risk of living/camping right beside any river. we grief for his loss. what would have happened if it had been an earthquake? are you going to sue then as well? mother nature is mother nature. accept that things can happen.
Good point about earthquakes wudchuk since they would have to relocate that famous westernmost state to avoid them. If you talk about levees you would have to relocate New Orleans. However, this situation sounds like a smaller and more rickety levee. I like to camp, but I went to lakes and rivers that were made by the Army Corps of Engineers in Tennessee. We camped at the high spot and the dams were built for perpetuity by any engineering standard and they generate multi megawatts of power. The only thing I ever lost in that river was my fishing bait.
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Have any of you ever seen a flash flood???? Of course the father could do nothing on his own without drowning too.
well, first of all, if you read the article, it said they all got ejected out of the vehicle. which means, none of them were wearing seatbelts!!! in most states that is against the law for being without. so the young child that was in the vehicle might, again, might have been rescued. the father would have been in the vehicle getting out of a seatbelt and getting his daughter out at the same time. i agree a life lost is valuable we all grieve for such. my heart goes out to the family, but then again, he should have known many things or put at least 2+2 together.
Exactly Amazed! That was my point too! To think of all the ‘could’ve’s would’ve’s should’ve’s’ is ridiculous. You weren’t there and don’t know exactly what happened. Everyone reacts differently in a situation like this. I agree that the campground owners shouldn’t be held liable. This is just something very unfortunate that happened and finger pointing isn’t helping anyone.
Holy crap! The poor father? that’s just it, he hopes to NOT be poor anymore by making someone else take the fall and let him cash in…and he found an attorney with a willing, sympathetic ear, of course…this guy needs to be honest with himself!
There is some facts I have found in researching this article which have not been mentioned here, here is what I have found so far.
1.the levee up stream had let go and the flood waters were 200ft wide by approximately 8ft deep there is videos showing this on youtube and various news outlets (not even the rescue team could attempt to reach the vehicle until waters subsided).
2. the road they were crossing gave way under thier SUV on impact the father was able to get out I am unsure of his seatbelt status however he was screaming his wife and kids were still buckeled in the car.
3. a report says when the mother unbuckled her seatbelt she was able to turn and unbuckle her son at which point they were both sucked out of the car by the force of the water leaving the daughter trapped(which by this account shows 3 of them were buckled in).
Also the premise for the lawsuit which this article fails to mention is that the campground owners were on tape at a FEMA meeting prior to this accident stating that this has happened previously and that the levees upstream had a propensity to let go and had done so in the past it also states that the family had questioned the safety of making the trip to the owners and were not made aware of potential flooding problems. Just trying to add some things I found at other news outlets.
Nevau makes some interesting comments. I also ready some other information than contained in the IJ article which raised some questions. If what Nevau says is right on, then the lawsuit will easily be won by the plaintiff. The information Nevau provides seems to indicate that the campground should have been closed/relocated long ago because of its hazardous location.
i don’t think anything will happen to this campground. you take a risk of living/camping right beside any river. we grief for his loss. what would have happened if it had been an earthquake? are you going to sue then as well? mother nature is mother nature. accept that things can happen.
Good point about earthquakes wudchuk since they would have to relocate that famous westernmost state to avoid them. If you talk about levees you would have to relocate New Orleans. However, this situation sounds like a smaller and more rickety levee. I like to camp, but I went to lakes and rivers that were made by the Army Corps of Engineers in Tennessee. We camped at the high spot and the dams were built for perpetuity by any engineering standard and they generate multi megawatts of power. The only thing I ever lost in that river was my fishing bait.