All the hospitals have to do is put a guard in an ICE uniform and all the illegals would stay away but don’t worry Obamas health plan will give everyone free health care and you will never have to wait for treatment. He promises. Oh and with no tax increase for 95% of the people, just for 5% of the people. Wow.
That’s an easy one. The ACLU happened to treating the life-threatening emergencies first. If an illegal with a cold has to wait too long, the ACLU will promptly sue the hosital for ‘discrimination’. Everyone down here is afraid of it. Even the police are afraid of legal action if they arrest them on suspicion of a crime.
The problem is that the people who are clogging up the ER won’t pay for anything. That’s why they are IN the ER. So a clinic won’t do any good for them. They have to use the ER as primary because they aren’t going to pay a dime and the hospital can’t turn them away.
They do a traige- and two different departments to funnel the patients through. But they still have to triage every patient that comes in- that’s where the bog down is.
Don’t have on a heart attack or other illness that requires ER treatment on a Sun. There are literally a hundred or more waiting for treatment for colds, sore backs, etc. They work under the table and the only day they have to go to the doctor is Sunday. The only way to get bumped ahead of even a few of them is to come in by ambulance.
Obama wants to give everyone free health care. McCain wants to tax health care insurance premiums and give $5000 credit. (I pay $17K a year, so that $5K isn’t going to help me a bit)
They both want to have insurance sell plans across state lines. Like a company in Az is going to give the same plan/rates to someone in Fla. (McCain’s example at the debate) Obama wants to offer the ones that are dissatisified with their current plans the same plan he and McCaine have. (again, across state lines) That was his plan in the same debate. Sounds to me like they are both planning to take the insurance (at least health) out of the states regulation and make it federal.
Then they both want the illegals that are already here to find a way to become citizens.
What we need is a candidate who will put a stop to all the freebies for them. If the hospitals aren’t charging double to the insurance companies to cover the freebies, prices can be negotiated much more favorably. We need electronic health records in place to cut down on admin costs (and errors, if the studies are correct). both dropping premiums. We need a candidate who isn’t in the drug companies pockets that will negotiate with them on a larger scale. (that’s why Canada’s drugs are so much cheaper- the VA does it, and it works for them as well)
Neither candidate seems to have any real plan to fix the problem. Pretty much like the economy. Throw a bandaid on it and hope for the best.
You know Dawn, I feel really bad for you guys down there. It is kind of scary, isn’t it?
The more I think about Universal health care in this country, the more I cringe at the idea. Sounds good on the surface, but the more and more you read about horror stories like this one, the more and more unappealing universal health care sounds.
Also, who in the world is going to pay for this? Not Uncle Sam nor the insurance companies, that’s for sure…..the little guy gets picked again! (This is one ball game I wish we didn’t have to get picked for)! :)
I’ve heard good and bad about socialized medicine. But the good stories are as good as what we have now and the bad are no worse then what we have now. So maybe it’s a toss up?
But the one fact remains that the people who drain the system and put nothing into it are a HUGE part of the problem. Not just illegals. We just have so many thousands of illegals dragging down our system here you can’t ignore it.
Our entire social system needs to be overhauled. There have to be incentives to work. Now it’s incentive to stay home and breed. And the single biggest incentive to sneak into this country is the free money and healthcare if you show up with your hand out. (don’t say work- work doesn’t count if they only work for $10 an hour because we’re paying for everything else) The unemployment rate in Texas is high, and Ike SHOULD have created a lot of jobs. But they are looking for illegals here to take to Texas to work cheap. A couple of truck loads a week from here to work there instead of hiring a US citizen that needs the work and is already there.
I don’t believe that our healthcare system, economic system, or any program stands a chance until that problem is resolved first.
It’s pure speculation whether or not the delay caused the paralysis. A 71 year old has the skull density of an egg and since she already had a fracured skull the damage was already in process. Maybe there were other priority patients….like ones who had their whole live ahead of them and/or had insurance. People need to face the realities of life. The system ain’t perfect and nobody should expect it to be.
Unless our highly compensated politicians and medical insurers find a solution, this type of situation will only intensify. With limited facilities and reimbursements shrinking annually by medical insurers, some hard decisions will have to be made regarding who gets what level of care. A 71 year old skull fx victim isn’t going to rank too high on the list. She lived a long life; she’s probably on medicare/medicaid that pays squat; her chances for recovery to any quality of life are probably low. Here comes’s the big question: how much is society willing and able to pay things like CAT scans and extended care?
why should it matter, because if it was me, i’d want to treated no matter what age i am. if you were younger, do you deserve better care? i think you need to rethink; why shud age matter?
If you are over 70, we need to to take a tip from the Eskimos. Over 70 and your health care consists of a blanket to keep you warm on the iceberg that you get floated out to sea on. Bye Bye.
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All the hospitals have to do is put a guard in an ICE uniform and all the illegals would stay away but don’t worry Obamas health plan will give everyone free health care and you will never have to wait for treatment. He promises. Oh and with no tax increase for 95% of the people, just for 5% of the people. Wow.
That’s an easy one. The ACLU happened to treating the life-threatening emergencies first. If an illegal with a cold has to wait too long, the ACLU will promptly sue the hosital for ‘discrimination’. Everyone down here is afraid of it. Even the police are afraid of legal action if they arrest them on suspicion of a crime.
The problem is that the people who are clogging up the ER won’t pay for anything. That’s why they are IN the ER. So a clinic won’t do any good for them. They have to use the ER as primary because they aren’t going to pay a dime and the hospital can’t turn them away.
They do a traige- and two different departments to funnel the patients through. But they still have to triage every patient that comes in- that’s where the bog down is.
Don’t have on a heart attack or other illness that requires ER treatment on a Sun. There are literally a hundred or more waiting for treatment for colds, sore backs, etc. They work under the table and the only day they have to go to the doctor is Sunday. The only way to get bumped ahead of even a few of them is to come in by ambulance.
Obama wants to give everyone free health care. McCain wants to tax health care insurance premiums and give $5000 credit. (I pay $17K a year, so that $5K isn’t going to help me a bit)
They both want to have insurance sell plans across state lines. Like a company in Az is going to give the same plan/rates to someone in Fla. (McCain’s example at the debate) Obama wants to offer the ones that are dissatisified with their current plans the same plan he and McCaine have. (again, across state lines) That was his plan in the same debate. Sounds to me like they are both planning to take the insurance (at least health) out of the states regulation and make it federal.
Then they both want the illegals that are already here to find a way to become citizens.
What we need is a candidate who will put a stop to all the freebies for them. If the hospitals aren’t charging double to the insurance companies to cover the freebies, prices can be negotiated much more favorably. We need electronic health records in place to cut down on admin costs (and errors, if the studies are correct). both dropping premiums. We need a candidate who isn’t in the drug companies pockets that will negotiate with them on a larger scale. (that’s why Canada’s drugs are so much cheaper- the VA does it, and it works for them as well)
Neither candidate seems to have any real plan to fix the problem. Pretty much like the economy. Throw a bandaid on it and hope for the best.
You know Dawn, I feel really bad for you guys down there. It is kind of scary, isn’t it?
The more I think about Universal health care in this country, the more I cringe at the idea. Sounds good on the surface, but the more and more you read about horror stories like this one, the more and more unappealing universal health care sounds.
Also, who in the world is going to pay for this? Not Uncle Sam nor the insurance companies, that’s for sure…..the little guy gets picked again! (This is one ball game I wish we didn’t have to get picked for)! :)
I’ve heard good and bad about socialized medicine. But the good stories are as good as what we have now and the bad are no worse then what we have now. So maybe it’s a toss up?
But the one fact remains that the people who drain the system and put nothing into it are a HUGE part of the problem. Not just illegals. We just have so many thousands of illegals dragging down our system here you can’t ignore it.
Our entire social system needs to be overhauled. There have to be incentives to work. Now it’s incentive to stay home and breed. And the single biggest incentive to sneak into this country is the free money and healthcare if you show up with your hand out. (don’t say work- work doesn’t count if they only work for $10 an hour because we’re paying for everything else) The unemployment rate in Texas is high, and Ike SHOULD have created a lot of jobs. But they are looking for illegals here to take to Texas to work cheap. A couple of truck loads a week from here to work there instead of hiring a US citizen that needs the work and is already there.
I don’t believe that our healthcare system, economic system, or any program stands a chance until that problem is resolved first.
It’s pure speculation whether or not the delay caused the paralysis. A 71 year old has the skull density of an egg and since she already had a fracured skull the damage was already in process. Maybe there were other priority patients….like ones who had their whole live ahead of them and/or had insurance. People need to face the realities of life. The system ain’t perfect and nobody should expect it to be.
can’t use the insurance — remember, under their own code, it does not matter, whether they have or have not insurance…
question: how many were in front? was there someone else already in the catscan? would it have made a difference in causing the paralyzation?
Unless our highly compensated politicians and medical insurers find a solution, this type of situation will only intensify. With limited facilities and reimbursements shrinking annually by medical insurers, some hard decisions will have to be made regarding who gets what level of care. A 71 year old skull fx victim isn’t going to rank too high on the list. She lived a long life; she’s probably on medicare/medicaid that pays squat; her chances for recovery to any quality of life are probably low. Here comes’s the big question: how much is society willing and able to pay things like CAT scans and extended care?
why should it matter, because if it was me, i’d want to treated no matter what age i am. if you were younger, do you deserve better care? i think you need to rethink; why shud age matter?
If you are over 70, we need to to take a tip from the Eskimos. Over 70 and your health care consists of a blanket to keep you warm on the iceberg that you get floated out to sea on. Bye Bye.