You people obviously have no grasp of a drunken lifestyle. As a 7-years sober recovering alcoholic, I have first-hand experience of the situations that precede these kinds of accidents. Most likely this guy is a loser and an alcoholic, and his friends are losers and alcoholic. You think the person who “lent” the car was an intelligent, responsible person? (Therefore making your “shoulda’s” viable solutions?) Most likely the car owner was incapacitied with a substance or a situation that lends itself to being out of control of him/herself. Low intelligence and drunken lifestyle go hand-in-hand. People living in a drunken lifestyle do not think of responsible questions and public responsibility at all, they only think of ways to “get away with” something. There is no preventative answer that a drunk won’t just throw to the wind and “do it anyway”. Except massive jail time. Even then, once they are out, 97% will do it again. Fines are a nice idea that someone with a little money thought up; most times, they don’t get paid, the loser goes back to jail, he gets out, avoids the fines, eventually seriously hurts someone and goes to jail again, ad infinitum. Barring actual sobriety (only 3% of alcoholics get sober and stay sober), a person like this, as long as they are not in jail will keep on doing what they do until maybe he contracts a disease and dies or kills himself before he can hurt someone. Once booze enters the brain of an alcoholic, there is no thought of ANYTHING but more booze. It’s annoying how you people always come on like you know everthing and you have the pat answer to these situations.
I don’t know about you but I would not be loaning my car to anyone I didn’t know very well; I’d bet that the owner of that car is a good friend of this guy and probably knew about his DUI’s…how could he not? I wouldn’t lend my car to any one of my relatives if I didn’t know more about their personal affairs. I have been accused of being heartless when I wouldn’t lend my car to my brother but I knew his wife already had a DUI and has a real drinking problem; I could not rely on his word that she would not be using the car (and I was right, I caught her at the supermarket using the car; she wasn’t drunk or anything but I specifically said that she was NOT to use the car….so I took it back home and he had to find another patsy….)
Thanks Big D, I agree with Casual Observer’s comments, but would like to add one of my own. You, better than the rest of us, know what it would take to correct the situation, but unless I missed it, it wasn’t there. Please let us know your thoughts.
in a way u make a point, but then u still missed the picture. afterall, we make a choice – to drink, to drive, to become depressed or any other choice, including getting married. we have to remember that sometimes our choices have consequences. some of them are bad in more ways than one. i am not going to give up hope that someday you might break the habit of being an alcoholic, but then again, i am not forgetting what it can do. the choice of loaning my car — that becomes an issue becuase i should have known. i know that he’s had several and i should have made him show me that he had a valid license. of course, i am not the one whom loaned the vehicle, but put yourself in that shoe. remember, that loaning your vehicle will impact your insurance.
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Unless it’s a dire emergency, who “lends” automobiles to people today and why would you do it?
You people obviously have no grasp of a drunken lifestyle. As a 7-years sober recovering alcoholic, I have first-hand experience of the situations that precede these kinds of accidents. Most likely this guy is a loser and an alcoholic, and his friends are losers and alcoholic. You think the person who “lent” the car was an intelligent, responsible person? (Therefore making your “shoulda’s” viable solutions?) Most likely the car owner was incapacitied with a substance or a situation that lends itself to being out of control of him/herself. Low intelligence and drunken lifestyle go hand-in-hand. People living in a drunken lifestyle do not think of responsible questions and public responsibility at all, they only think of ways to “get away with” something. There is no preventative answer that a drunk won’t just throw to the wind and “do it anyway”. Except massive jail time. Even then, once they are out, 97% will do it again. Fines are a nice idea that someone with a little money thought up; most times, they don’t get paid, the loser goes back to jail, he gets out, avoids the fines, eventually seriously hurts someone and goes to jail again, ad infinitum. Barring actual sobriety (only 3% of alcoholics get sober and stay sober), a person like this, as long as they are not in jail will keep on doing what they do until maybe he contracts a disease and dies or kills himself before he can hurt someone. Once booze enters the brain of an alcoholic, there is no thought of ANYTHING but more booze. It’s annoying how you people always come on like you know everthing and you have the pat answer to these situations.
Big D, may the Force be and remain with you – thank you for the eye opening message.
I don’t know about you but I would not be loaning my car to anyone I didn’t know very well; I’d bet that the owner of that car is a good friend of this guy and probably knew about his DUI’s…how could he not? I wouldn’t lend my car to any one of my relatives if I didn’t know more about their personal affairs. I have been accused of being heartless when I wouldn’t lend my car to my brother but I knew his wife already had a DUI and has a real drinking problem; I could not rely on his word that she would not be using the car (and I was right, I caught her at the supermarket using the car; she wasn’t drunk or anything but I specifically said that she was NOT to use the car….so I took it back home and he had to find another patsy….)
Thanks Big D, I agree with Casual Observer’s comments, but would like to add one of my own. You, better than the rest of us, know what it would take to correct the situation, but unless I missed it, it wasn’t there. Please let us know your thoughts.
in a way u make a point, but then u still missed the picture. afterall, we make a choice – to drink, to drive, to become depressed or any other choice, including getting married. we have to remember that sometimes our choices have consequences. some of them are bad in more ways than one. i am not going to give up hope that someday you might break the habit of being an alcoholic, but then again, i am not forgetting what it can do. the choice of loaning my car — that becomes an issue becuase i should have known. i know that he’s had several and i should have made him show me that he had a valid license. of course, i am not the one whom loaned the vehicle, but put yourself in that shoe. remember, that loaning your vehicle will impact your insurance.