Too bad the school and the State didn’t have total immunity from this incident. If it was like this everywhere then people would not be such large deep pocket money whores, pltf attys would have less influence and the Courts would not be so congested and corrupt.
It’s the same “somebody has to pay” mentality we see in other cases. The state is trying to keep litigation costs down by offering the settlement and I hope the people take it. No amount of money will help them with their grief so they shouldn’t ask for any.
I didn’t realize that it was the university that shot those students. From what I remember reading it was some fool that went on a killing spree and then killed himself.
Yes the university is responsible for providing a safe environment for learning, which I beleive they did to the extent that would be resonibly expected or allowed.
Problem here is that the guy who was responsible is dead and doesn’t have a penny to his name – so we find the deep pockets!
i don’t know enough of the details to fully assess the degree of negligence by the university, but gross negligence it was not. therefore the 100k is not their value of a life. it is the value they feel is fair for the amount of responsibility the university accepts for purpose of settling. i’m not saying the is a fair amount either. but you need to see this for what it is. unfortunately the guy was a nut case and was going to shoot people – that sucks i know, but that is the fact. let’s assume the university was able to send a warning some how and sooner. their still would have been kids on campus he would have gone after. i am not trivializing this at all. i do think this begs the question what can a university do to communicate with the campus to help minimize the damage.
the add on for discussions with gov’t officials – shouldn’t that be available to everyone?
if i were a parent of one of those kids i wouldn’t want the money for me. i would use it do something positive for safety on campus or something. what would i do with the money, buy a nice car or vacation spot and have it as a constant reminder of how it was paid?
There was a way to send a warning. The school didn’t want the shootings on the news. At 7:30AM a vast majority of the student body were still in their dorms, homes, or cars. IF the media had been able to broadcast the shooting, how many of those same students would NOT have gone to class that day? The Univ president ASSUMED it was an isolated incident and kept it ‘quiet’. THAT puts a large amount of respondsibility on the Univ. And, yes, CYA instead of informing constitutes as gross negligence to me.
Anyone who has ever been a victim of a crime on a campus knows that they want ‘campus security’ to handle it. No real police involvement unless absolutely necessary. And NO media coverage. Can’t make other kids not want to come there. The SECOND it was confirmed a shooting, the university had a respondsibility to advise the students and faculty that there was a gun on campus any way they could. That includes the TV news and radio.
And, sadly, I have to add that the ONLY way other schools are going to react differently in the future is if this Univ has to pay out a large sum. They don’t want the publicity, and they won’t go public until they are forced. Maybe with a huge payout the universities across the country will decide a little bad publicity beforehand is worse then millions of $$ in payouts after the fact.
And, since no one here understands why parents should be entitled to money, student loans that were co-signed by parents are STILL DUE AND PAYABLE. So if you’ve borrowed $50,000 to send your child to school, and they are killed, you still owe all of it back. Not just the un-used portion. Credit cards that parents co-signed for, cars that were purchased for the child can’t be sold, since they probably aren’t worth what’s owed, etc. There are bills left to the parents that are nothing more then a painful reminder and an extra burden when the child is killed. At least pay that off. Not to mention the average $20,000 cost of the funerals/burials. (I’d be willing to bet most of the parents had no life insurance- no parent wants to believe they might have to bury their children)
You’re right Old Man but in this day and age people want the blood (or money in this case) of other people regardless of true liability and/or negligence. They want to find the deepest pocket and extract as much cash as possible from them. We have a f’ed up society that has little care or concern for personal responsibility and accountability.
We have updated our privacy policy to be more clear and meet the new requirements of the GDPR. By continuing to use our site, you accept our revised Privacy Policy.
I am fairly sure they have been speaking to elected officials. This is to further solidify that this communication will continue.
Too bad the school and the State didn’t have total immunity from this incident. If it was like this everywhere then people would not be such large deep pocket money whores, pltf attys would have less influence and the Courts would not be so congested and corrupt.
It’s the same “somebody has to pay” mentality we see in other cases. The state is trying to keep litigation costs down by offering the settlement and I hope the people take it. No amount of money will help them with their grief so they shouldn’t ask for any.
I think I missed something somewhere.
I didn’t realize that it was the university that shot those students. From what I remember reading it was some fool that went on a killing spree and then killed himself.
Yes the university is responsible for providing a safe environment for learning, which I beleive they did to the extent that would be resonibly expected or allowed.
Problem here is that the guy who was responsible is dead and doesn’t have a penny to his name – so we find the deep pockets!
i don’t know enough of the details to fully assess the degree of negligence by the university, but gross negligence it was not. therefore the 100k is not their value of a life. it is the value they feel is fair for the amount of responsibility the university accepts for purpose of settling. i’m not saying the is a fair amount either. but you need to see this for what it is. unfortunately the guy was a nut case and was going to shoot people – that sucks i know, but that is the fact. let’s assume the university was able to send a warning some how and sooner. their still would have been kids on campus he would have gone after. i am not trivializing this at all. i do think this begs the question what can a university do to communicate with the campus to help minimize the damage.
the add on for discussions with gov’t officials – shouldn’t that be available to everyone?
if i were a parent of one of those kids i wouldn’t want the money for me. i would use it do something positive for safety on campus or something. what would i do with the money, buy a nice car or vacation spot and have it as a constant reminder of how it was paid?
There was a way to send a warning. The school didn’t want the shootings on the news. At 7:30AM a vast majority of the student body were still in their dorms, homes, or cars. IF the media had been able to broadcast the shooting, how many of those same students would NOT have gone to class that day? The Univ president ASSUMED it was an isolated incident and kept it ‘quiet’. THAT puts a large amount of respondsibility on the Univ. And, yes, CYA instead of informing constitutes as gross negligence to me.
Anyone who has ever been a victim of a crime on a campus knows that they want ‘campus security’ to handle it. No real police involvement unless absolutely necessary. And NO media coverage. Can’t make other kids not want to come there. The SECOND it was confirmed a shooting, the university had a respondsibility to advise the students and faculty that there was a gun on campus any way they could. That includes the TV news and radio.
And, sadly, I have to add that the ONLY way other schools are going to react differently in the future is if this Univ has to pay out a large sum. They don’t want the publicity, and they won’t go public until they are forced. Maybe with a huge payout the universities across the country will decide a little bad publicity beforehand is worse then millions of $$ in payouts after the fact.
And, since no one here understands why parents should be entitled to money, student loans that were co-signed by parents are STILL DUE AND PAYABLE. So if you’ve borrowed $50,000 to send your child to school, and they are killed, you still owe all of it back. Not just the un-used portion. Credit cards that parents co-signed for, cars that were purchased for the child can’t be sold, since they probably aren’t worth what’s owed, etc. There are bills left to the parents that are nothing more then a painful reminder and an extra burden when the child is killed. At least pay that off. Not to mention the average $20,000 cost of the funerals/burials. (I’d be willing to bet most of the parents had no life insurance- no parent wants to believe they might have to bury their children)
You’re right Old Man but in this day and age people want the blood (or money in this case) of other people regardless of true liability and/or negligence. They want to find the deepest pocket and extract as much cash as possible from them. We have a f’ed up society that has little care or concern for personal responsibility and accountability.