It’s not just for DWI, it’s for virtually any kind of moving violation as well. New York also has a “fee” that I think very few New Yorkers actually know about. A speeding ticket at 21 mph not only costs you the cost of the ticket, but $300 extra PER YEAR for three years. I think it amounts to double jeopardy of sorts, being penalized twice for exactly the same infraction. I guess the “fee” as opposed to “fine” is what gets around that.
If you don’t drive like a moron, what’s the problem?
Even if you do drive like a moron and do so again and again and again, why shouldn’t you be assessed an increasing fee for each incident?
Dr. Phil says something like “You chose the behavior, you chose the consequence.” Regardless of how creepy he sometimes is, that particular nugget makes sense.
The graduated fines or whatever they’re called is a step in the right direction. Without a consequence, behavior won’t change. The “gap” lies in the habitual violator who can’t or won’t pay. How many times have we heard of people with dozens of citations still behind the wheel? In addition to a financial consequence, there should be a “hammer” penalty that could involve confiscation of a vehicle. That should definitely apply to DUI’s. Let’s face it, people will drive even if you revoke their license, but take away their vehicle and suddenly there’s an incentive to change their behavior. It’s unfortunate that such draconion alternatives need to be considered but some people just refuse to abide by society’s laws.
None of you get it. The Democrates in Virginia have already raised taxes to the point that they have to find stealth ways to raise more taxes or the people will revolt. This is just a back door sneaky way to raise taxes. Get it now. Thats why we are upset. A speeding ticket can now cost you over $3,000.00 over three years.
No, you don’t get it. You don’t break the law, you don’t get penalized. While the state might regard violations as a cash cow, they aren’t fabricating violations. The issue here is about raising the ante (and generating more funds) from violators. This sounds like a good idea.
you pay $3,000 for the FIRST speed ticket? I doubt that. I agree that you should hammer the repeat bad drivers. If they don’t learn, then they can pay for it.
Virginia is famous for placing revenue over traffic safety. I got stopped for having what a state trooper thought was a radar detector (the devil’s own device according to the state of Virginia)attached to my dashboard. It was in fact a Beltronics accelerometer that I installed for my own amusement.While I was demonstrating to the trooper that the device could in no way detect a radar or laser beam, several vehicles passed us performing highway gymnastics that even I would consider capital offenses. The trooper ignored them because he thought I had a clandestine device that had it been a radar detector, I would have slowed down at each of the three million radar traps I passed on my way to Washington DC. Slowing down is no good unless the State of Virginia gets a chunk of change in the process.
DUI is different. Lock em up and mail the key to Tiera del Fuego.
Goobers who tailgate and cut in and out of traffic like drug crazed NASCAR drivers can pay triple fines so that the good state troopers in Virginia (and they ARE good) don’t have to bother with me and my brethren who travel safely at speeds that may exceed the silly posted limits.
PS Don’t try to tell me that speed kills. I’ve been in the insurance industry for a long time and the stats prove that traffic laws are designed to make money, not promote traffic safety.
I hope all of you readers will drive carefully and stay sober this 4th of July holiday.
Well then don’t speed and you won’t have the fine. Even my two old can figure that one out. How stupid are you and does it come naturally or do you have to work at it?
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If you don’t drink and drive then you don’t have a problem.
What reason would the citizens of VA have for objecting to this?
It’s not just for DWI, it’s for virtually any kind of moving violation as well. New York also has a “fee” that I think very few New Yorkers actually know about. A speeding ticket at 21 mph not only costs you the cost of the ticket, but $300 extra PER YEAR for three years. I think it amounts to double jeopardy of sorts, being penalized twice for exactly the same infraction. I guess the “fee” as opposed to “fine” is what gets around that.
If you don’t drive like a moron, what’s the problem?
Even if you do drive like a moron and do so again and again and again, why shouldn’t you be assessed an increasing fee for each incident?
Dr. Phil says something like “You chose the behavior, you chose the consequence.” Regardless of how creepy he sometimes is, that particular nugget makes sense.
The graduated fines or whatever they’re called is a step in the right direction. Without a consequence, behavior won’t change. The “gap” lies in the habitual violator who can’t or won’t pay. How many times have we heard of people with dozens of citations still behind the wheel? In addition to a financial consequence, there should be a “hammer” penalty that could involve confiscation of a vehicle. That should definitely apply to DUI’s. Let’s face it, people will drive even if you revoke their license, but take away their vehicle and suddenly there’s an incentive to change their behavior. It’s unfortunate that such draconion alternatives need to be considered but some people just refuse to abide by society’s laws.
None of you get it. The Democrates in Virginia have already raised taxes to the point that they have to find stealth ways to raise more taxes or the people will revolt. This is just a back door sneaky way to raise taxes. Get it now. Thats why we are upset. A speeding ticket can now cost you over $3,000.00 over three years.
No, you don’t get it. You don’t break the law, you don’t get penalized. While the state might regard violations as a cash cow, they aren’t fabricating violations. The issue here is about raising the ante (and generating more funds) from violators. This sounds like a good idea.
you pay $3,000 for the FIRST speed ticket? I doubt that. I agree that you should hammer the repeat bad drivers. If they don’t learn, then they can pay for it.
Virginia is famous for placing revenue over traffic safety. I got stopped for having what a state trooper thought was a radar detector (the devil’s own device according to the state of Virginia)attached to my dashboard. It was in fact a Beltronics accelerometer that I installed for my own amusement.While I was demonstrating to the trooper that the device could in no way detect a radar or laser beam, several vehicles passed us performing highway gymnastics that even I would consider capital offenses. The trooper ignored them because he thought I had a clandestine device that had it been a radar detector, I would have slowed down at each of the three million radar traps I passed on my way to Washington DC. Slowing down is no good unless the State of Virginia gets a chunk of change in the process.
DUI is different. Lock em up and mail the key to Tiera del Fuego.
Goobers who tailgate and cut in and out of traffic like drug crazed NASCAR drivers can pay triple fines so that the good state troopers in Virginia (and they ARE good) don’t have to bother with me and my brethren who travel safely at speeds that may exceed the silly posted limits.
PS Don’t try to tell me that speed kills. I’ve been in the insurance industry for a long time and the stats prove that traffic laws are designed to make money, not promote traffic safety.
I hope all of you readers will drive carefully and stay sober this 4th of July holiday.
Well then don’t speed and you won’t have the fine. Even my two old can figure that one out. How stupid are you and does it come naturally or do you have to work at it?