looks like you\’re a bit confused, but that\’s ok, you sound like a bleeding heart, which means you think with your feelings. Nice of you to offer to use smaller words for us; looks like you probably have problems with the bigger ones.
It looked pretty clear like you were lining up behind the plaintiff, but heck, I just read it; I don\’t know how you \’feel\’. Sleep easy, though, the plaintiff didn\’t lose a leg, arm, or other appendage; it doesn\’t look like drinking was involved.
You remind me of the kooks who argue with someone who is pro-life with comments like \”well, what if your daughter is impregnated by a space alien, you\’d want her to have that baby?!?\”
Jeff, calm down; it appears no one is trying to take anyone\’s right to sue away in this column. Some of us question why there is a large contingency who pretend that anytime something goes wrong, \’someone has to pay\’. Sounds like you are one of those people, Jeff. It\’s ok to take responsibility for one\’s self; I know, that\’s a big word, but I think you can handle it.
See, Chuck could be telling the world of the real dangers of this surgery, while he talks about how blessed he feels that he survived, how things have turned out so well for him. But instead, we get to read about his little lawsuit here, in the IJ, not exactly People magazine, but maybe he doesn\’t want it too publicized.
You have to admit, if the case was really going well for Chuck, odds are he wouldn\’t have let his attorneys call for a mistrial.
Sometimes we try to \’read between the lines\’ when we don\’t have all the facts. Nope, I wasn\’t at the trial, didn\’t perform the surgery, don\’t know if Chuck took the proper precautions or even showed up as a drunk patient for his own surgery. No, the best we can do is try to guess what really happened.
Now about the lost arm and drunk doctor thing, that was a really stupid argument, Jeff. Sorry.
I\’m not sure if I follow you, but you indicate the doctors where speeding over the limit when they cut off Charlies arm while they were drunk? Or did you say if before they got the ticket or cut off the arm? I\’ve lost track, but these guys should be in jail.
Man, you\’re right, Charlie should sue those doctors; I don\’t want them operating on anyone else while they speed and drive drunk. Thanks for setting us straight. That analogy thing is tricky, looks like some others had the same misunderstanding as little ole me. What we had was failure to communicate! Stupid is as stupid does…them doctors must have really be stupid to get drunk and then drive while doing the surgery.
You did leave out the anology of what would it be like if they used an old rusty lawnmower blade to make the incision. That would be bad. However, if they used a relatively new one, ya know, not rusty, and washed it with soap, then I don\’t think they should be sued. That\’s just my opinion. Thank God these guys were in that courtroom, though. They could have saved that jurors life. Ya know, sometimes we get put into positions so we can make a difference. Jeff, you\’re one of those people, you\’ve made a difference for me. Thanks.
Jesus…I wasn\’t saying they were as bad as a surgeon who worked on someone drunk. The point was that everytime there is an article on this website about someone suing (for any reason), people come out and say the person doesn\’t deserve to sue regardless of the circumstances.
What I was asking was for one of you to give me an example of a situation where a person would have the right to sue in your opinion. You say I\’m a bleeding heart lib because I think if a doctor does something wrong he should be held liable? Where is your rant about the personal responsibility of the doctor?
So, just so I\’m clear, if you went in for surgery and the doctor almost killed you because he used the wrong clamp, or he left a pad in you, or whatever, you wouldn\’t sue? Is that what your saying?
Your last comment actually made sense though. I agree you should be able to sue but you should also take responsibility for your own actions. Doctors if having done everything right should not be held hostage because of unforeseen complications. I am sure of a few things:
1. They informed him ahead of time of the dangers and that exercise and diet would be safer.
2. This would have been settled out of court if the doctors actually made an error. When you have insurance why fight a claim if you know you are liable and have insurance to pay it?
3. The case was probably not going so well for the plaintiff and that is why his lawyer argued for a mistrial.
4. You have a small brain the size of a marble that has been damaged by tree sap from over squeezing the maple in your front yard.
By the way what if the doctors were attempting psychic surgery but failed to clean their finger nails causing a deadly infection.
Ross, I don\’t know that the doctors did anything wrong. I\’m not saying the doctors did anything wrong. I am not \”on the side\” of the plaintiff. These doctors may have followed all the protocols, they may have done excellent surgery. The reason for the coma may be due to complications out of the doctors control.
My point is that IF, I say again, IF they didn\’t act responsibly, they should be accountable. That\’s it. If the fault lies with the plaintiff or some uncontrollable situation the case should be dismissed. But what happens on this site is that when anyone sues, for any reason, no matter what has happened, it is assumed they are just out for money they don\’t deserve.
I just contacted both the plaintiff and the defendants, and the defendants said they did nothing wrong. I had a hard time understanding the plaintiff, he refused to put down his pastrami sandwich while he spoke on the phone.
The defendants said they explained the dangers of the surgery, and even pointed out how inexpensive an exercise bike could be in comparision, but before the plaintiff could read the entire section of warning language, he spilled mustard and mayo from his sub sandwich, which was described as a triple meat, hot steak and cheese with extra jalapeno, which smeared the ink.
Medical Malpractice law suits are the #1 reason Healthcare costs are so high. In additon to camps on losses in certain states, I think the government or assigned outside agency should invesitagte and approve or decline reasonable means to sue a healthcare professional.
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looks like you\’re a bit confused, but that\’s ok, you sound like a bleeding heart, which means you think with your feelings. Nice of you to offer to use smaller words for us; looks like you probably have problems with the bigger ones.
It looked pretty clear like you were lining up behind the plaintiff, but heck, I just read it; I don\’t know how you \’feel\’. Sleep easy, though, the plaintiff didn\’t lose a leg, arm, or other appendage; it doesn\’t look like drinking was involved.
You remind me of the kooks who argue with someone who is pro-life with comments like \”well, what if your daughter is impregnated by a space alien, you\’d want her to have that baby?!?\”
Jeff, calm down; it appears no one is trying to take anyone\’s right to sue away in this column. Some of us question why there is a large contingency who pretend that anytime something goes wrong, \’someone has to pay\’. Sounds like you are one of those people, Jeff. It\’s ok to take responsibility for one\’s self; I know, that\’s a big word, but I think you can handle it.
See, Chuck could be telling the world of the real dangers of this surgery, while he talks about how blessed he feels that he survived, how things have turned out so well for him. But instead, we get to read about his little lawsuit here, in the IJ, not exactly People magazine, but maybe he doesn\’t want it too publicized.
You have to admit, if the case was really going well for Chuck, odds are he wouldn\’t have let his attorneys call for a mistrial.
Sometimes we try to \’read between the lines\’ when we don\’t have all the facts. Nope, I wasn\’t at the trial, didn\’t perform the surgery, don\’t know if Chuck took the proper precautions or even showed up as a drunk patient for his own surgery. No, the best we can do is try to guess what really happened.
Now about the lost arm and drunk doctor thing, that was a really stupid argument, Jeff. Sorry.
Jeff
I\’m not sure if I follow you, but you indicate the doctors where speeding over the limit when they cut off Charlies arm while they were drunk? Or did you say if before they got the ticket or cut off the arm? I\’ve lost track, but these guys should be in jail.
Man, you\’re right, Charlie should sue those doctors; I don\’t want them operating on anyone else while they speed and drive drunk. Thanks for setting us straight. That analogy thing is tricky, looks like some others had the same misunderstanding as little ole me. What we had was failure to communicate! Stupid is as stupid does…them doctors must have really be stupid to get drunk and then drive while doing the surgery.
You did leave out the anology of what would it be like if they used an old rusty lawnmower blade to make the incision. That would be bad. However, if they used a relatively new one, ya know, not rusty, and washed it with soap, then I don\’t think they should be sued. That\’s just my opinion. Thank God these guys were in that courtroom, though. They could have saved that jurors life. Ya know, sometimes we get put into positions so we can make a difference. Jeff, you\’re one of those people, you\’ve made a difference for me. Thanks.
Jesus…I wasn\’t saying they were as bad as a surgeon who worked on someone drunk. The point was that everytime there is an article on this website about someone suing (for any reason), people come out and say the person doesn\’t deserve to sue regardless of the circumstances.
What I was asking was for one of you to give me an example of a situation where a person would have the right to sue in your opinion. You say I\’m a bleeding heart lib because I think if a doctor does something wrong he should be held liable? Where is your rant about the personal responsibility of the doctor?
So, just so I\’m clear, if you went in for surgery and the doctor almost killed you because he used the wrong clamp, or he left a pad in you, or whatever, you wouldn\’t sue? Is that what your saying?
Your last comment actually made sense though. I agree you should be able to sue but you should also take responsibility for your own actions. Doctors if having done everything right should not be held hostage because of unforeseen complications. I am sure of a few things:
1. They informed him ahead of time of the dangers and that exercise and diet would be safer.
2. This would have been settled out of court if the doctors actually made an error. When you have insurance why fight a claim if you know you are liable and have insurance to pay it?
3. The case was probably not going so well for the plaintiff and that is why his lawyer argued for a mistrial.
4. You have a small brain the size of a marble that has been damaged by tree sap from over squeezing the maple in your front yard.
By the way what if the doctors were attempting psychic surgery but failed to clean their finger nails causing a deadly infection.
Jeff, how do you know the doctors did anything wrong?
Is it at least as equally likely the doctors did nothing wrong?
Ross, I don\’t know that the doctors did anything wrong. I\’m not saying the doctors did anything wrong. I am not \”on the side\” of the plaintiff. These doctors may have followed all the protocols, they may have done excellent surgery. The reason for the coma may be due to complications out of the doctors control.
My point is that IF, I say again, IF they didn\’t act responsibly, they should be accountable. That\’s it. If the fault lies with the plaintiff or some uncontrollable situation the case should be dismissed. But what happens on this site is that when anyone sues, for any reason, no matter what has happened, it is assumed they are just out for money they don\’t deserve.
I\’ve seen allot of people dancing on this website everytime Walmart gets sued…
just seems wierd his own attorney wanted the do over on the trial.
I just contacted both the plaintiff and the defendants, and the defendants said they did nothing wrong. I had a hard time understanding the plaintiff, he refused to put down his pastrami sandwich while he spoke on the phone.
The defendants said they explained the dangers of the surgery, and even pointed out how inexpensive an exercise bike could be in comparision, but before the plaintiff could read the entire section of warning language, he spilled mustard and mayo from his sub sandwich, which was described as a triple meat, hot steak and cheese with extra jalapeno, which smeared the ink.
Jared from Subway refused comment.
Please learn to read, obtain your GED, ask mommy to read for you, etc.. I NEVER mentioned they couldn\’t sue.
Medical Malpractice law suits are the #1 reason Healthcare costs are so high. In additon to camps on losses in certain states, I think the government or assigned outside agency should invesitagte and approve or decline reasonable means to sue a healthcare professional.