It is sad the state where the \”shot heard round the world\” is being run by people who want to take the right away that the patriots died for.
Back to \”it\’s about time\” This whole thing smells like a ambulance chaser looking for a payday at the exspence(SP) of an innocent person.
The killer has sole responsabilty for what he did, and the state of Mass/and his doctors are guilty of letting this guy on the streets when they knew he could have been a danger to some one else.
So now breaking & entering is \”negligent access\”??? Just when were the Mass gun owners notified what the required levil of security is?? Could she have overlooked the memo? As to the actual perpetrator, if he was so well known to be mentally incompetant and prone to violence, why was such a \”progressive\” state as Mass letting him run loose? Perhaps they missed that memo also. Nope, nope, nope; it\’s all the gun owners fault just for being the gun owner, and being rich enough or insured enough to make a tasty target for the lawyers.
This is a long overdue development. The owners of firearms need to be held responsible if they do not take steps to prevent unauthorized use. More often than not, it is someone in their family or a family friend that gets injured or killed because someone (ususally a child) had access to a firearm. There is really no excuse for not securing firearms from unauthorized use.
I would guess that in Mass if you do not lock up your car keys in a safe, and someone you know with access to your house takes your keys (non-permissive) and runs over someone, then you are liabile even though your car was stolen. Or they take a knife out of your kitchen and commit a crime, then you are responsible. Or they take a lighter or matches from your home and committ arson, then you are responsible. One has only to look at the most famous Senator from Mass to understand the reasoning of the courts in Mass. I am just thankful I do not live there.
We( or in this case the State of Mass ) need to take responsibility for the people that have menal illness and keep them under control. The last time I checked my car has never on its own or with me driving ran anybody over or my guns have never jumped out of the locked gun cabinet and shot anyone. Even when my guns were unlocked they have never taken it upon themselves to shoot anyone. But none of my guns have mental illness that I know of.
How secure is secure??? Someone takes a coal chisel and a sledge hammer and breaks into my gun safe and I am responsible??? If a person wants something bad enough they WILL find a way to get it, and if they get it……then I guess that it wasn\’t secure. Another blow to \”common sense\”
Michael, you are repeating an anti-gun argument refuted long ago. The notion that guns pose a great danger to their owners\’ families is erroneous.
A gun IS more likely to be used in an accidental death than in the death of an intruder. However, this phony stat ignores the fact that in the vast, vast majority of cases guns used legally in self defense are not even fired, let alone used to wound or kill an assailant. Pointing the firearm toward the perp is usually all that is necessary.
I think Michael and Tank and correct in their sentiments. Every gun owner needs to act in a responsible manner, GB, I highly doubt you can dispute that. GB can you provide any documentation to support you assertions?
so we all know that any one person can commit a crime. responsibility of the crime is the one whom commits the crime. how are we to know if a person is stable or mentally fit? are we all experts in that field? not likely! it took a bit of thinking to find a way to unscrew the hinges. he knew that a gun was there and that if can be a deadly weapon. so do we not try him for burglary for removing the gun? or is that mentally incompetant? i think we try too much to say i am not taking responsibility for any action i take. we are all adults and we have to be held accountable. why should the state keep accepting incompetance or insanities? who\’s going to keep paying for trial or restitution?
So if keep a gun by my bed to protect me from the nut case next door and he breaks in and takesthat gun without wakening me and shoots me it is my fault. That sure makes sense.
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It is sad the state where the \”shot heard round the world\” is being run by people who want to take the right away that the patriots died for.
Back to \”it\’s about time\” This whole thing smells like a ambulance chaser looking for a payday at the exspence(SP) of an innocent person.
The killer has sole responsabilty for what he did, and the state of Mass/and his doctors are guilty of letting this guy on the streets when they knew he could have been a danger to some one else.
So now breaking & entering is \”negligent access\”??? Just when were the Mass gun owners notified what the required levil of security is?? Could she have overlooked the memo? As to the actual perpetrator, if he was so well known to be mentally incompetant and prone to violence, why was such a \”progressive\” state as Mass letting him run loose? Perhaps they missed that memo also. Nope, nope, nope; it\’s all the gun owners fault just for being the gun owner, and being rich enough or insured enough to make a tasty target for the lawyers.
This is a long overdue development. The owners of firearms need to be held responsible if they do not take steps to prevent unauthorized use. More often than not, it is someone in their family or a family friend that gets injured or killed because someone (ususally a child) had access to a firearm. There is really no excuse for not securing firearms from unauthorized use.
I would guess that in Mass if you do not lock up your car keys in a safe, and someone you know with access to your house takes your keys (non-permissive) and runs over someone, then you are liabile even though your car was stolen. Or they take a knife out of your kitchen and commit a crime, then you are responsible. Or they take a lighter or matches from your home and committ arson, then you are responsible. One has only to look at the most famous Senator from Mass to understand the reasoning of the courts in Mass. I am just thankful I do not live there.
We( or in this case the State of Mass ) need to take responsibility for the people that have menal illness and keep them under control. The last time I checked my car has never on its own or with me driving ran anybody over or my guns have never jumped out of the locked gun cabinet and shot anyone. Even when my guns were unlocked they have never taken it upon themselves to shoot anyone. But none of my guns have mental illness that I know of.
How secure is secure??? Someone takes a coal chisel and a sledge hammer and breaks into my gun safe and I am responsible??? If a person wants something bad enough they WILL find a way to get it, and if they get it……then I guess that it wasn\’t secure. Another blow to \”common sense\”
Michael, you are repeating an anti-gun argument refuted long ago. The notion that guns pose a great danger to their owners\’ families is erroneous.
A gun IS more likely to be used in an accidental death than in the death of an intruder. However, this phony stat ignores the fact that in the vast, vast majority of cases guns used legally in self defense are not even fired, let alone used to wound or kill an assailant. Pointing the firearm toward the perp is usually all that is necessary.
I think Michael and Tank and correct in their sentiments. Every gun owner needs to act in a responsible manner, GB, I highly doubt you can dispute that. GB can you provide any documentation to support you assertions?
so we all know that any one person can commit a crime. responsibility of the crime is the one whom commits the crime. how are we to know if a person is stable or mentally fit? are we all experts in that field? not likely! it took a bit of thinking to find a way to unscrew the hinges. he knew that a gun was there and that if can be a deadly weapon. so do we not try him for burglary for removing the gun? or is that mentally incompetant? i think we try too much to say i am not taking responsibility for any action i take. we are all adults and we have to be held accountable. why should the state keep accepting incompetance or insanities? who\’s going to keep paying for trial or restitution?
So if keep a gun by my bed to protect me from the nut case next door and he breaks in and takesthat gun without wakening me and shoots me it is my fault. That sure makes sense.