Let’s be honest; transgenders are freaks. They obviously have psychological issues and normal people just don’t like being around them. I don’t blame Macy’s for not wanting to expose their customers to this freak. If “shim” or whatever “it” is wants to strut it’s stuff in public, maybe shim should get a job in an auto repair shop or somewhere that won’t offend normal people and families. I wonder who is paying for this glorious transformation? What a waste of medical resources.
Desiree, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but I am afraid that you, my dear are the freak of nature. Supose you are correct in your definition of what is and isnt’t a freak of nature. Would you then shun a set of conjoined twins, a person with 6 toes, a clef lip, club foot. Or maybe dwarfts or little people. Do these people have the right to live in peace?
Eady, I can’t abide your leap to the conclusion that this person’s problem is phsical rather than psychological. The difference is that one is easily defineable, the other unquantifiable or, one is objective, the other subjective. I think we all have the right to question the subjective and to be able to do so without the personal attack. As far as I am concerned, this person can do what he/she wants in private but once he/she enters the public domain, I think he/she should yield to the majority view on atypical and abnormal behavior. That seems like a grand compromise to me.
Eady, bad analogy. I doubt any of the poor souls you described volunteered to be that way. This “thing” did. I also doubt any of those in your analogy would be working at Macy’s.
If you, as a customer, took a look at the person behind the counter & could not tell the difference, how would you know? The article centers around how this person was treated by fellow employees. Maybe there is some merit to the case.
Well being a transgender and actually working in a retail enviorment I can say we are not all freams or shims… we are people with a medical condition. Medical Science is proving more and more its a neurological Endocrinological condition. The psychological aspect comes from years of repression and living contrary to the way thier brains developed.
Transsexuals experience themselves as being of the opposite sex, despite having the biological characteristics of one sex. A crucial question resulting from a previous brain study in male-to-female transsexuals was whether the reported difference according to gender identity in the central part of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) was based on a neuronal difference in the BSTc itself or just a reflection of a difference in vasoactive intestinal polypeptide innervation from the amygdala, which was used as a marker. Therefore, we determined in 42 subjects the number of somatostatin-expressing neurons in the BSTc in relation to sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, and past or present hormonal status. Regardless of sexual orientation, men had almost twice as many somatostatin neurons as women (P < 0.006). The number of neurons in the BSTc of male-to-female transsexuals was similar to that of the females (P = 0.83). In contrast, the neuron number of a female-to-male transsexual was found to be in the male range. Hormone treatment or sex hormone level variations in adulthood did not seem to have influenced BSTc neuron numbers. The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions and point to a neurobiological basis of gender identity disorder.
Even if you have your opions or feelings last time I checked we are suppose to live free and not be discriminated against.. or have we for got the one of the very first rules taught to us about tollerance. If you are not a Dr ... or have any clue what you are talking about EDUCATE yourself on the subject ... or go back to watching FOX news
It would be hard to find merit in a case where women through him out of their restroom. I think the rule is that if you can stand at a urinal, don’t expect to be able to use the woman’s restroom. I could imagine how uncomfortable that would be.
Makes me sad to find out that on the 21st century with all the technological advances in every field and all the knowledge accumulated, still exist people that are the modern inquisitors; narrow minded, ignorant and prejudice, spreading their fears, bigotry and hate based on unfunded misconceptions and ignorance. Transgender people are human beings too that deserve the same rights and privileges as everybody else, specially the privilege to live with dignity.
More often than not, people will speak their minds (within their right) uninformed, based on false misinformed assumptions, passing judgment onto others and not caring their comments are hurtful. Transgender people are sensitive and some of them might act to be though in a way to cope with their adversities. Transgender people are laugh at, insulted, verbally and physically assaulted on a daily basis. Why someone would “choose” to go thru all this? Wouldn’t be easier to act up your “given gender”? Is not their fault that people have being brainwashed for centuries into condemn them.
For a transgender person to express their thru gender is a brave admirable action and are champions of the oppressed.
STOP KILLING US! http://www.gender.org/remember/about/core.html
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Let’s be honest; transgenders are freaks. They obviously have psychological issues and normal people just don’t like being around them. I don’t blame Macy’s for not wanting to expose their customers to this freak. If “shim” or whatever “it” is wants to strut it’s stuff in public, maybe shim should get a job in an auto repair shop or somewhere that won’t offend normal people and families. I wonder who is paying for this glorious transformation? What a waste of medical resources.
Desiree, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but I am afraid that you, my dear are the freak of nature. Supose you are correct in your definition of what is and isnt’t a freak of nature. Would you then shun a set of conjoined twins, a person with 6 toes, a clef lip, club foot. Or maybe dwarfts or little people. Do these people have the right to live in peace?
Eady, I can’t abide your leap to the conclusion that this person’s problem is phsical rather than psychological. The difference is that one is easily defineable, the other unquantifiable or, one is objective, the other subjective. I think we all have the right to question the subjective and to be able to do so without the personal attack. As far as I am concerned, this person can do what he/she wants in private but once he/she enters the public domain, I think he/she should yield to the majority view on atypical and abnormal behavior. That seems like a grand compromise to me.
Eady, bad analogy. I doubt any of the poor souls you described volunteered to be that way. This “thing” did. I also doubt any of those in your analogy would be working at Macy’s.
If you, as a customer, took a look at the person behind the counter & could not tell the difference, how would you know? The article centers around how this person was treated by fellow employees. Maybe there is some merit to the case.
Well being a transgender and actually working in a retail enviorment I can say we are not all freams or shims… we are people with a medical condition. Medical Science is proving more and more its a neurological Endocrinological condition. The psychological aspect comes from years of repression and living contrary to the way thier brains developed.
Transsexuals experience themselves as being of the opposite sex, despite having the biological characteristics of one sex. A crucial question resulting from a previous brain study in male-to-female transsexuals was whether the reported difference according to gender identity in the central part of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) was based on a neuronal difference in the BSTc itself or just a reflection of a difference in vasoactive intestinal polypeptide innervation from the amygdala, which was used as a marker. Therefore, we determined in 42 subjects the number of somatostatin-expressing neurons in the BSTc in relation to sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, and past or present hormonal status. Regardless of sexual orientation, men had almost twice as many somatostatin neurons as women (P < 0.006). The number of neurons in the BSTc of male-to-female transsexuals was similar to that of the females (P = 0.83). In contrast, the neuron number of a female-to-male transsexual was found to be in the male range. Hormone treatment or sex hormone level variations in adulthood did not seem to have influenced BSTc neuron numbers. The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions and point to a neurobiological basis of gender identity disorder. Even if you have your opions or feelings last time I checked we are suppose to live free and not be discriminated against.. or have we for got the one of the very first rules taught to us about tollerance. If you are not a Dr ... or have any clue what you are talking about EDUCATE yourself on the subject ... or go back to watching FOX news
It would be hard to find merit in a case where women through him out of their restroom. I think the rule is that if you can stand at a urinal, don’t expect to be able to use the woman’s restroom. I could imagine how uncomfortable that would be.
Makes me sad to find out that on the 21st century with all the technological advances in every field and all the knowledge accumulated, still exist people that are the modern inquisitors; narrow minded, ignorant and prejudice, spreading their fears, bigotry and hate based on unfunded misconceptions and ignorance. Transgender people are human beings too that deserve the same rights and privileges as everybody else, specially the privilege to live with dignity.
More often than not, people will speak their minds (within their right) uninformed, based on false misinformed assumptions, passing judgment onto others and not caring their comments are hurtful. Transgender people are sensitive and some of them might act to be though in a way to cope with their adversities. Transgender people are laugh at, insulted, verbally and physically assaulted on a daily basis. Why someone would “choose” to go thru all this? Wouldn’t be easier to act up your “given gender”? Is not their fault that people have being brainwashed for centuries into condemn them.
For a transgender person to express their thru gender is a brave admirable action and are champions of the oppressed.
STOP KILLING US!
http://www.gender.org/remember/about/core.html
I just knew there had to be one out there somewhere. Pretty sad when the entire focus of your life is on what sex you are.
Very well put Rachel