I agree that the rich should not be gouged, just pay the same percentage as the rest of us (sounds like socialism, doesn\’t it). I don\’t see any solutions you proposed other than paying taxes. Sure hope you like crossing that bridge in Alaska (opps, that was defeated, wasn\’t it?). Maybe welfare isn\’t abused, how about social security or the miriad other programs? Burns my hide when the politicians can produce all that pork & no one seems to care or correct it.
Its stunning how many of you don\’t get it. You whine about your taxes going up and reflexively condemn any plan put forth to address what thinking people recognize as a fundamental problem…We cannot have people in our society unable to access basic healthcare. Whether its cause they\’re poor, lazy or employed by a cheapskate, etc. Everyone is entitled to basic healthcare. Not heart transplants necessarily – but standard healthcare like control of high blood pressure or diabetes. Yes, we will all have to pay for this. We all have to pay for schools, too. Its part of life in a civilized country. I\’m sure some moron will suggest anyone who feels like I do move to Sweden. I admire such wit, but the days of \”me-first & screw everyone else\” Republicanism are winding down.
Having been in this business for a long time,here we go again.For all you \”old timers\”,there was state fund,which now is an out of controll bureaucracy[even \”big\”john had to sue work comp to be under the controll of the DOI]and unaccountable!Then there is the \”fair plan\”,limited coverage and nobody asks the question,why do wealthy hollywood types and real estate investors buy property in Malibu and expect the California taxpayers to subsidize it using the fair plan?Finally,\”cheap goverment car insurance\”,a complete bureau was set up and the plan failed.Lastly,the state invloved in medical insurance?Who are you kidding?
Socialism is not the answer. Think freedom, free markets, incentives, rewards, opportunity, choice, etc. I don\’t look forward to standing in line with millionaires and vagabonds to see a Doctor (or less) assigned to me by the Government.
We have to do something to fix the healthcare system. There is no way around paying additional taxes to do it and in the long run if it helps to cut down on the unpaid bills to doctors, hospitals & emergency rooms isn\’t it worth a few more dollars? I think everyone is open to other suggestions……..
We really have to move past this whole \”free market is the answer to everyting\” idea. I have read several of the postings here, and it\’s definitely a recuring theme. We have had free markets for a long time, and there are 40 million people that can\’t pay for basic care. And these are not all vagabonds. We have to think outside the box to solve what is rapidly becoming a huge problem. If you get sick and don\’t have insurance, what do you do. Well, you either die or you go to a hospital and then don\’t pay the bill. What good does that do our society. It\’s real easy when you have a job with health insurance to not care about those that don\’t. As I\’m sure I\’m about to get hammered with \”why don\’t you move to Russia\” or \”that\’s socialism, and that\’s not how we do it here\”, I\’ll do a premptive defense. Do you not realize that more money is paid for emergency care than having a doctor to go see regularly. As much as people on this site want to deny it, we pay for things one way or another, and the free market doesn\’t answer all the questions. What about police forces and national security. Why don\’t we turn that over to the private sector as well if it\’s so much better? I mean, forget the compassion piece, just think about the money we already pay to subsidize people that never go to a doctor but instead go to the ER when they have a problem.
I think that this is indeed a good idea for all states to ponder, and once all states are on the boat possibly move to a federal level. If this were to happen, although taxes may be higher I would take solice in the fact that I now have something tangible for my tax paying dollar that is there when I need it unlike Soc. Security or fighting for what I don\’t know about now overseas! Actually, I think that is is a good turn for the US as a whole to take, in the direction of its own huddled uninsured masses.
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I agree that the rich should not be gouged, just pay the same percentage as the rest of us (sounds like socialism, doesn\’t it). I don\’t see any solutions you proposed other than paying taxes. Sure hope you like crossing that bridge in Alaska (opps, that was defeated, wasn\’t it?). Maybe welfare isn\’t abused, how about social security or the miriad other programs? Burns my hide when the politicians can produce all that pork & no one seems to care or correct it.
Its stunning how many of you don\’t get it. You whine about your taxes going up and reflexively condemn any plan put forth to address what thinking people recognize as a fundamental problem…We cannot have people in our society unable to access basic healthcare. Whether its cause they\’re poor, lazy or employed by a cheapskate, etc. Everyone is entitled to basic healthcare. Not heart transplants necessarily – but standard healthcare like control of high blood pressure or diabetes. Yes, we will all have to pay for this. We all have to pay for schools, too. Its part of life in a civilized country. I\’m sure some moron will suggest anyone who feels like I do move to Sweden. I admire such wit, but the days of \”me-first & screw everyone else\” Republicanism are winding down.
Having been in this business for a long time,here we go again.For all you \”old timers\”,there was state fund,which now is an out of controll bureaucracy[even \”big\”john had to sue work comp to be under the controll of the DOI]and unaccountable!Then there is the \”fair plan\”,limited coverage and nobody asks the question,why do wealthy hollywood types and real estate investors buy property in Malibu and expect the California taxpayers to subsidize it using the fair plan?Finally,\”cheap goverment car insurance\”,a complete bureau was set up and the plan failed.Lastly,the state invloved in medical insurance?Who are you kidding?
All the good he did with the WC reform will be undone with an expensive tax payer levied health insurance plan! I knew it was too good to be true.
Socialism is not the answer. Think freedom, free markets, incentives, rewards, opportunity, choice, etc. I don\’t look forward to standing in line with millionaires and vagabonds to see a Doctor (or less) assigned to me by the Government.
We have to do something to fix the healthcare system. There is no way around paying additional taxes to do it and in the long run if it helps to cut down on the unpaid bills to doctors, hospitals & emergency rooms isn\’t it worth a few more dollars? I think everyone is open to other suggestions……..
Someone want to get the lights when the last of businesses leave? Kiss your retirement package goodbye…time to move out of state!
Just Great! Now I will get to pay MORE flippin\’ taxes on top of the already outrageous health insurance premiums I now pay. Way to go Arnold!
Scott,
We really have to move past this whole \”free market is the answer to everyting\” idea. I have read several of the postings here, and it\’s definitely a recuring theme. We have had free markets for a long time, and there are 40 million people that can\’t pay for basic care. And these are not all vagabonds. We have to think outside the box to solve what is rapidly becoming a huge problem. If you get sick and don\’t have insurance, what do you do. Well, you either die or you go to a hospital and then don\’t pay the bill. What good does that do our society. It\’s real easy when you have a job with health insurance to not care about those that don\’t. As I\’m sure I\’m about to get hammered with \”why don\’t you move to Russia\” or \”that\’s socialism, and that\’s not how we do it here\”, I\’ll do a premptive defense. Do you not realize that more money is paid for emergency care than having a doctor to go see regularly. As much as people on this site want to deny it, we pay for things one way or another, and the free market doesn\’t answer all the questions. What about police forces and national security. Why don\’t we turn that over to the private sector as well if it\’s so much better? I mean, forget the compassion piece, just think about the money we already pay to subsidize people that never go to a doctor but instead go to the ER when they have a problem.
I think that this is indeed a good idea for all states to ponder, and once all states are on the boat possibly move to a federal level. If this were to happen, although taxes may be higher I would take solice in the fact that I now have something tangible for my tax paying dollar that is there when I need it unlike Soc. Security or fighting for what I don\’t know about now overseas! Actually, I think that is is a good turn for the US as a whole to take, in the direction of its own huddled uninsured masses.