All these enclosures were designed by archetects and engineers using best available technologies. They had Errors and Ommissions professional liability ins. The city originally wanted the enclosures to protect citizens, now they just want to protect property? What’s wrong with that? Solient Green all over.
what about any of the regular homeowner that have enclosed swimming pools? are you going to deny them a claim on their flood insurance just because?
most hotels, have enclosed pools because it draws more tourism to the area. so they would lose on folks coming and visiting the city and enjoying themselves and spending money versus a so-called error with FEMA? so, if part of the hotels crumbles underneath the flood, those parts like a bed or wall could take off and damage other parts. city street lamps could fall and cause damage to property and people. is someone sleeping on this? or are they relaxing in the pool?
sounds to me like someone is just fishing for a way to deny coverage.
As a BOD member for a condo assoc in Orange Beach, Al, I have to ask the question; Have any of you seen what damage a gunite swimming pool can do when it is “floated” during a hurricane surge before it collapses into pieces? There is (or was in 2007) a way to circumvent the rule and that is to “anchor” your indoor pool to pilings that are quite deep and work with authorities on a variance. An enclosed pool can actually float into the floor above it during a significant surge and cause a collapse of part or all of a building. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike government interference in many ways, but this is one that actually makes sense.
I have never seen a gunite pool float. Homeowners also have gunite pools. Don’t they bear the same risk? How does removing the enclosure prevent it? And finally, I still don’t see how a new building code can be imposed upon an existing building, absent a remodeling. Is it possible that hotel owners foresee liability exposures to themselves?
so, would not an outside pool do the same thing? an enclosed pool, would have at least walls around it, so it would not float away! where as an outside pool would! what if that pool was a concrete inlaid pool within a closure? i was wondering some of the same things as the previous person, where’s the difference? i think they are just making a mountain out of a molehill.
I have photos from our resort after hurrican Ivan. Our outside pool actually floated and moved before collapsing during the surge. Had it ben inside a structure and done the same, it would have caused a lot of damage to the structure. However, I have done a little research and that is not what this article is about. First, the FEMA rule has been in place for a long time, it just hasn’t been enforced. How convenient and typical for FEMA. We make the rule and choose when to begin enforcement…. Also, this is about temporary structures that are put in place during the off season, not pools. I thought the article was referring to indoor pools underneath habitational exposures. Since the structures are temporary, they are not built to “hurricane construction code” and are therfore likely to fall apart causing significant damage as debris. Since it only affects 11 hotels and resorts, I would guess that there aren’t homeowners with the same kind of structures on the beachfront. I hope this clears up the confusion. If not, feel free to check out the link below.
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So everytime building code changes we have to rebuild the buildings???????????
All these enclosures were designed by archetects and engineers using best available technologies. They had Errors and Ommissions professional liability ins. The city originally wanted the enclosures to protect citizens, now they just want to protect property? What’s wrong with that? Solient Green all over.
Seems like the snot-nosed brats currently in office did’nt heed their history lessons.
what about any of the regular homeowner that have enclosed swimming pools? are you going to deny them a claim on their flood insurance just because?
most hotels, have enclosed pools because it draws more tourism to the area. so they would lose on folks coming and visiting the city and enjoying themselves and spending money versus a so-called error with FEMA? so, if part of the hotels crumbles underneath the flood, those parts like a bed or wall could take off and damage other parts. city street lamps could fall and cause damage to property and people. is someone sleeping on this? or are they relaxing in the pool?
sounds to me like someone is just fishing for a way to deny coverage.
As a BOD member for a condo assoc in Orange Beach, Al, I have to ask the question; Have any of you seen what damage a gunite swimming pool can do when it is “floated” during a hurricane surge before it collapses into pieces? There is (or was in 2007) a way to circumvent the rule and that is to “anchor” your indoor pool to pilings that are quite deep and work with authorities on a variance. An enclosed pool can actually float into the floor above it during a significant surge and cause a collapse of part or all of a building. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike government interference in many ways, but this is one that actually makes sense.
I have never seen a gunite pool float. Homeowners also have gunite pools. Don’t they bear the same risk? How does removing the enclosure prevent it? And finally, I still don’t see how a new building code can be imposed upon an existing building, absent a remodeling. Is it possible that hotel owners foresee liability exposures to themselves?
so, would not an outside pool do the same thing? an enclosed pool, would have at least walls around it, so it would not float away! where as an outside pool would! what if that pool was a concrete inlaid pool within a closure? i was wondering some of the same things as the previous person, where’s the difference? i think they are just making a mountain out of a molehill.
I have photos from our resort after hurrican Ivan. Our outside pool actually floated and moved before collapsing during the surge. Had it ben inside a structure and done the same, it would have caused a lot of damage to the structure. However, I have done a little research and that is not what this article is about. First, the FEMA rule has been in place for a long time, it just hasn’t been enforced. How convenient and typical for FEMA. We make the rule and choose when to begin enforcement…. Also, this is about temporary structures that are put in place during the off season, not pools. I thought the article was referring to indoor pools underneath habitational exposures. Since the structures are temporary, they are not built to “hurricane construction code” and are therfore likely to fall apart causing significant damage as debris. Since it only affects 11 hotels and resorts, I would guess that there aren’t homeowners with the same kind of structures on the beachfront. I hope this clears up the confusion. If not, feel free to check out the link below.
http://www.thesunnews.com/…/mb-sues-11-hotels-over-pool-enclosures.html