I didn’t even know schools were able to paddle students anymore. When I was in school it was permitted unless the parents specifically contacted the school and submitted a signed form that their child was not to be paddled. Unfortunately for me my parents never signed the form.
i like the idea, because many kids probably don’t get any at home for wrong behavior. question is where is the parents in all this? it says the 11 yr old is suing and not the parents of an 11 yr old? what if these paddlings are actually from the parents and not the school?
“spare the rod, spoil the child”
kids nowadays do not have a great sense of responsibility, so i wonder why?
In a recent news article it was reported that a state legal adviser, who told Bristol, Tennessee Director of Schools Gary Lilly that while school principals who paddled students were legally protected from allegations of assault, they were not immune from accusations of inappropriate or improper touching.
Ouch! For the second time in a month, a school district in Leflore County has been hit with a lawsuit from a student alleging injuries from a paddling.
An 11-year-old is seeking $500,000 from the Greenwood Public School District in a suit filed Monday in Leflore County Circuit Court.
Court documents state a coach caused “severe and painful injuries” to the student while paddling him in November 2008.
The child’s attorney, James Littleton, said photographs show deep bruising on the then-10-year- old’s buttocks and that he also suffered possible kidney damage.
“It was just unreal the abuse that this child took at the hands of a teacher,” Littleton said.
Paddling has been a hot-button issue of late in Leflore County. Just last month, the guardian of a 6-year-old kindergartner filed a $500,000 lawsuit against the Leflore County School District for alleged paddlings.
It is a mandate of the Surgeon General of the United States and of the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations that patients be kept comfortable and free of pain. An institution’s license to provide medical care can be in jeopardy if these mandates are ignored.
The United States Department of Education, the United States Supreme Court and United States Congress must not continue to ignore research indicating that Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is detrimental to the health and safety of our nation’s children and counterproductive to the learning environment, lowering children’s IQ’s. Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is an outmoded, ineffective and dangerous practice that has been banned in more than l00 countries. It puts school districts at risk for lawsuits for paddling injuries, which is the main reason many districts already have abandoned it.
Research indicates that spanking lowers children’s IQ’s. Research on toddlers and other studies following children into adolescence found Physical Punishment was BAD FOR CHILDREN and made them more likely to show anti-social behavior. Children who were exposed to physical discipline most frequently were two to three times more likely to show anti-social behavior as an adolescent, including things like getting into fights, being disobedient at home or at school, general delinquency and being in trouble with teachers. Violence begets violence is a lesson from history not just child psychology.”
Several national children’s health and education organizations have official positions statements OPPOSING School Corporal Punishment of Children including the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Bar Association, the National PTA (Parent Teacher Association) and the National Education Association, among others
Educators powerfully model physical assault/violence as the acceptable way to solve problems to our children when they punish them by hitting them with wooden paddles. Paddling is a lawsuit waiting to happen. In a day when some schools limit kids from playing tag on the playground for fear of a lawsuit-inducing injury, school boards are asking for trouble to sanction a practice that is intended to inflict pain. How will schools in the 20 remaining states where the outmoded, ineffective, dangerous practice of Physical/Corporal punishment of children remains legal possibly maintain order without the paddle? For ideas, they could start by asking any of the 30 states that do it every day and that do not use Corporal Punishment on school children.
Teacher Education Colleges must teach that classroom management must NEVER involve school employees hitting children with wooden paddles to deliberately inflict physical pain and suffering as punishment and stress to children from fear, humiliation, and anxiety, which also adversely affects the learning/working environment of all witnessing classmates and staff.
Rights granted by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which stipulates that no state may deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person … the equal protection of the laws. Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is already ILLEGAL in 30 states! For this reason, Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is not equally applied in schools and any law allowing it is unconstitutional!
first of all, how in the heck does it lower an IQ? afterall, some of the brightest minds probably came from the background of our grandfathers where it paddling was allowed and given. i bet you might ask EINSTEIN, if it was in there household. paddling does not deprive liberty, property or life!
next thing you are going to say, is that if we remove the child for behavior, we are going to deprive him of an education. well, that fits both ways, a disruptive room is depriving the other children an education.
sometimes i think we need to provide our kids discipline, how many children in our society are having troubles w/the law? how many parents are not being responsible? we could always have the parents sit with the kids if they are disruptive in a separate study hall. what will it take?
if i remember, many catholic schools use to hit the kids on the hands with rulers. how many of them lost IQ’s? i think you are pulling some strings that are very very loose.
If paddling is to be out…then what? Timeouts? Those certainly can’t be relied on as the be-all end-all of behaviour adjustment. I’ve met quite a few difficult (if not outright brats) whose parents and teachers seem to employ endless timeouts to no avail. I would wonder, like wudchuck, how is a properly used paddling/spanking lowering IQ? I would agree that excessive and constant use of negative reinforcement could have adverse affects…but many of us who grew up in the days of paddling–and before all the lawsuits anytime “Johnny got hurt of offended at school” turned out no worse for wear. I’m glad I’m not a teacher.
For whqat it is worth – we see so many behavioral problem in schools today that I must wonder where it all comes from. Is it the atmosphere of entitlement that has gotten us here? Children in schools these days seem to be entitled to any type of behavior they can get away with and schools (teachers and administrators) can seem to do very little about it.
There seems to be very little discipline coming from parents of many of these kids. Parents shouldn’t be friends with their children, they should be pack leaders and establish rules govering responsible behavior.
Not all children misbehave. There are many students that come out of our schools as responsible and educated adults. Why do some succeed and others fail?
My money is on the parents as good role models and enforcers of reasonable discipline.
Too many parents don’t support their schools then their children misbehave.
How does this apply to paddling? I wasn’t paddled (I am in my late 60’s) but remember that I knew what would happen if I didn’t behave in school.
So – discipline is needed – it starts at home with the parents and continues with the parents supporting the shcools dispensing appropriate discipline withint he shcools halls.
Julie – You are obviously a young person who did not attend school when paddling was allowed. Children behaved better then. Now they are rude and disrespectful and think they can get away with acting any way they want. As for paddling lowering IQs, my daughter was spanked when she deserved it. She is now a junior in college with a 3.5 GPA. Don’t think the spankings she received lowered her IQ any!
A number of the posters to this article clearly feel that beating a child when they don’t do what their parent or teacher wants is appropriate, normal discipline.
I hope you’re not surprised when your children mimic this behavior and become bullies or, later, as men, beat their wives and girlfriends.
As long as adults teach their children that using superior size and strength to coerce behavior and punish misbehavior is appropriate, our children will continue to learn that “might makes right”.
There are many appropriate methods for getting children to act as they should. Beating them up is NOT one of them.
Matthew Gorzynski, 14, died from a stab wound in his chest. William Gorzynkski, 15, appeared in court Tuesday after he was arrested and charged with his brother’s slaying
Roderman could not explain how a fight over the volume on a computer speaker could escalate to the point that William allegedly took a kitchen knife and stabbed his brother in the chest.
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But the group of seventh-graders now face charges for a crime far worse than the criminal mischief of their past. The boys — acting together — ganged up on 15-year-old Michael Brewer outside a Deerfield Beach apartment complex on Oct. 12. Acting on the orders of one boy, they doused him with rubbing alcohol and set him ablaze. As Brewer screamed in terror, they all ran, authorities say.
At least three of them laughed about it after they were arrested, according to Sgt. Steve Feeley of the Broward Sheriff’s Office. Their motive, Feeley said, was retaliation against the victim for snitching over a feud involving a $40 video game and a bicycle.
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An 11-year-old Marathon boy is being charged with chasing and stabbing two classmates with a hypodermic needle at his school, authorities said.
The 11-year-old and two 9-year-olds were standing in line at Stanley Switlik Elementary School cafeteria when the older boy stabbed the two others in the buttocks in the Oct. 15 incident, according to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office. He also chased a third boy who ran away.
The victims told a teacher who found the needle hidden in the 11-year-old’s book, authorities said. The boy was charged with two counts of aggravated battery and one count of assault.
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FORT LAUDERDALE – A 12-year-old Coral Springs boy who stabbed a 13-year-old neighbor in the back and then stuck another knife in his own stomach will spend nine to 18 months in a high-risk juvenile facility, a Broward judge ordered today.
“I want to die, I want to die,” the 12-year-old told paramedics when they arrived at the scene of the Sept. 18 after-school knifing.
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If paddling/spanking can help prevent my children from making headlines like this, I’ll go out and carve the paddle myself and hand deliver it to the school…..
Unfortunately, people like Julie have way too much say in how we raise our children. A woman was arrested for washing her daughter’s mouth with soap after the child dropped the F bomb. Another arrested for making her 10 year old walk 2 miles home in an affluent community. What is wrong with people these days? Children are setting each other on fire, gang-raping other teenagers at homecoming dances and sodomizing 12 year olds on school buses.
Seems to me that this whole ‘no spanking, use time outs and understanding’ has bred a whole new generations of violent offenders.
Julie, go to a neighborhood school in
S Fla- they can threaten to kill you in 6 languages- and they will if you turn your back on them. Let’s see how you feel about ‘time outs’ then.
My children get time outs or spankings, depending on the offense. Annoying behaviour gets time outs, potentially dangerous ones get spankings. And I know that if I smack my 4 year old for running away from me in a crowded parking lot, someone will call the cops on me.
We need to crack down on these kids. Starting with parents. Paddle the child, but I’d be all for a smack for mommy, too if she won’t take responsibility for that child. Too many parents these days are convinced that their darling is special and needs to be understood rather then punished.
I’m not saying that there are some kids with real issues- my son is Autistic- but these kids running around with their pants down and pretending to be .50 are nothing more the the product of their ‘special parents’ and they should all be treated to a dose of tough love.
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I didn’t even know schools were able to paddle students anymore. When I was in school it was permitted unless the parents specifically contacted the school and submitted a signed form that their child was not to be paddled. Unfortunately for me my parents never signed the form.
i like the idea, because many kids probably don’t get any at home for wrong behavior. question is where is the parents in all this? it says the 11 yr old is suing and not the parents of an 11 yr old? what if these paddlings are actually from the parents and not the school?
“spare the rod, spoil the child”
kids nowadays do not have a great sense of responsibility, so i wonder why?
In a recent news article it was reported that a state legal adviser, who told Bristol, Tennessee Director of Schools Gary Lilly that while school principals who paddled students were legally protected from allegations of assault, they were not immune from accusations of inappropriate or improper touching.
Ouch! For the second time in a month, a school district in Leflore County has been hit with a lawsuit from a student alleging injuries from a paddling.
An 11-year-old is seeking $500,000 from the Greenwood Public School District in a suit filed Monday in Leflore County Circuit Court.
Court documents state a coach caused “severe and painful injuries” to the student while paddling him in November 2008.
The child’s attorney, James Littleton, said photographs show deep bruising on the then-10-year- old’s buttocks and that he also suffered possible kidney damage.
“It was just unreal the abuse that this child took at the hands of a teacher,” Littleton said.
Paddling has been a hot-button issue of late in Leflore County. Just last month, the guardian of a 6-year-old kindergartner filed a $500,000 lawsuit against the Leflore County School District for alleged paddlings.
It is a mandate of the Surgeon General of the United States and of the Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations that patients be kept comfortable and free of pain. An institution’s license to provide medical care can be in jeopardy if these mandates are ignored.
The United States Department of Education, the United States Supreme Court and United States Congress must not continue to ignore research indicating that Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is detrimental to the health and safety of our nation’s children and counterproductive to the learning environment, lowering children’s IQ’s. Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is an outmoded, ineffective and dangerous practice that has been banned in more than l00 countries. It puts school districts at risk for lawsuits for paddling injuries, which is the main reason many districts already have abandoned it.
Research indicates that spanking lowers children’s IQ’s. Research on toddlers and other studies following children into adolescence found Physical Punishment was BAD FOR CHILDREN and made them more likely to show anti-social behavior. Children who were exposed to physical discipline most frequently were two to three times more likely to show anti-social behavior as an adolescent, including things like getting into fights, being disobedient at home or at school, general delinquency and being in trouble with teachers. Violence begets violence is a lesson from history not just child psychology.”
Several national children’s health and education organizations have official positions statements OPPOSING School Corporal Punishment of Children including the American Medical Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Bar Association, the National PTA (Parent Teacher Association) and the National Education Association, among others
Educators powerfully model physical assault/violence as the acceptable way to solve problems to our children when they punish them by hitting them with wooden paddles. Paddling is a lawsuit waiting to happen. In a day when some schools limit kids from playing tag on the playground for fear of a lawsuit-inducing injury, school boards are asking for trouble to sanction a practice that is intended to inflict pain. How will schools in the 20 remaining states where the outmoded, ineffective, dangerous practice of Physical/Corporal punishment of children remains legal possibly maintain order without the paddle? For ideas, they could start by asking any of the 30 states that do it every day and that do not use Corporal Punishment on school children.
Teacher Education Colleges must teach that classroom management must NEVER involve school employees hitting children with wooden paddles to deliberately inflict physical pain and suffering as punishment and stress to children from fear, humiliation, and anxiety, which also adversely affects the learning/working environment of all witnessing classmates and staff.
Rights granted by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which stipulates that no state may deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person … the equal protection of the laws. Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is already ILLEGAL in 30 states! For this reason, Physical/Corporal Punishment of Children in Schools is not equally applied in schools and any law allowing it is unconstitutional!
first of all, how in the heck does it lower an IQ? afterall, some of the brightest minds probably came from the background of our grandfathers where it paddling was allowed and given. i bet you might ask EINSTEIN, if it was in there household. paddling does not deprive liberty, property or life!
next thing you are going to say, is that if we remove the child for behavior, we are going to deprive him of an education. well, that fits both ways, a disruptive room is depriving the other children an education.
sometimes i think we need to provide our kids discipline, how many children in our society are having troubles w/the law? how many parents are not being responsible? we could always have the parents sit with the kids if they are disruptive in a separate study hall. what will it take?
if i remember, many catholic schools use to hit the kids on the hands with rulers. how many of them lost IQ’s? i think you are pulling some strings that are very very loose.
If paddling is to be out…then what? Timeouts? Those certainly can’t be relied on as the be-all end-all of behaviour adjustment. I’ve met quite a few difficult (if not outright brats) whose parents and teachers seem to employ endless timeouts to no avail. I would wonder, like wudchuck, how is a properly used paddling/spanking lowering IQ? I would agree that excessive and constant use of negative reinforcement could have adverse affects…but many of us who grew up in the days of paddling–and before all the lawsuits anytime “Johnny got hurt of offended at school” turned out no worse for wear. I’m glad I’m not a teacher.
For whqat it is worth – we see so many behavioral problem in schools today that I must wonder where it all comes from. Is it the atmosphere of entitlement that has gotten us here? Children in schools these days seem to be entitled to any type of behavior they can get away with and schools (teachers and administrators) can seem to do very little about it.
There seems to be very little discipline coming from parents of many of these kids. Parents shouldn’t be friends with their children, they should be pack leaders and establish rules govering responsible behavior.
Not all children misbehave. There are many students that come out of our schools as responsible and educated adults. Why do some succeed and others fail?
My money is on the parents as good role models and enforcers of reasonable discipline.
Too many parents don’t support their schools then their children misbehave.
How does this apply to paddling? I wasn’t paddled (I am in my late 60’s) but remember that I knew what would happen if I didn’t behave in school.
So – discipline is needed – it starts at home with the parents and continues with the parents supporting the shcools dispensing appropriate discipline withint he shcools halls.
Julie – You are obviously a young person who did not attend school when paddling was allowed. Children behaved better then. Now they are rude and disrespectful and think they can get away with acting any way they want. As for paddling lowering IQs, my daughter was spanked when she deserved it. She is now a junior in college with a 3.5 GPA. Don’t think the spankings she received lowered her IQ any!
A number of the posters to this article clearly feel that beating a child when they don’t do what their parent or teacher wants is appropriate, normal discipline.
I hope you’re not surprised when your children mimic this behavior and become bullies or, later, as men, beat their wives and girlfriends.
As long as adults teach their children that using superior size and strength to coerce behavior and punish misbehavior is appropriate, our children will continue to learn that “might makes right”.
There are many appropriate methods for getting children to act as they should. Beating them up is NOT one of them.
Matthew Gorzynski, 14, died from a stab wound in his chest. William Gorzynkski, 15, appeared in court Tuesday after he was arrested and charged with his brother’s slaying
Roderman could not explain how a fight over the volume on a computer speaker could escalate to the point that William allegedly took a kitchen knife and stabbed his brother in the chest.
——————————————
But the group of seventh-graders now face charges for a crime far worse than the criminal mischief of their past. The boys — acting together — ganged up on 15-year-old Michael Brewer outside a Deerfield Beach apartment complex on Oct. 12. Acting on the orders of one boy, they doused him with rubbing alcohol and set him ablaze. As Brewer screamed in terror, they all ran, authorities say.
At least three of them laughed about it after they were arrested, according to Sgt. Steve Feeley of the Broward Sheriff’s Office. Their motive, Feeley said, was retaliation against the victim for snitching over a feud involving a $40 video game and a bicycle.
——————————————
An 11-year-old Marathon boy is being charged with chasing and stabbing two classmates with a hypodermic needle at his school, authorities said.
The 11-year-old and two 9-year-olds were standing in line at Stanley Switlik Elementary School cafeteria when the older boy stabbed the two others in the buttocks in the Oct. 15 incident, according to the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office. He also chased a third boy who ran away.
The victims told a teacher who found the needle hidden in the 11-year-old’s book, authorities said. The boy was charged with two counts of aggravated battery and one count of assault.
——————————————
FORT LAUDERDALE – A 12-year-old Coral Springs boy who stabbed a 13-year-old neighbor in the back and then stuck another knife in his own stomach will spend nine to 18 months in a high-risk juvenile facility, a Broward judge ordered today.
“I want to die, I want to die,” the 12-year-old told paramedics when they arrived at the scene of the Sept. 18 after-school knifing.
——————————————
If paddling/spanking can help prevent my children from making headlines like this, I’ll go out and carve the paddle myself and hand deliver it to the school…..
Unfortunately, people like Julie have way too much say in how we raise our children. A woman was arrested for washing her daughter’s mouth with soap after the child dropped the F bomb. Another arrested for making her 10 year old walk 2 miles home in an affluent community. What is wrong with people these days? Children are setting each other on fire, gang-raping other teenagers at homecoming dances and sodomizing 12 year olds on school buses.
Seems to me that this whole ‘no spanking, use time outs and understanding’ has bred a whole new generations of violent offenders.
Julie, go to a neighborhood school in
S Fla- they can threaten to kill you in 6 languages- and they will if you turn your back on them. Let’s see how you feel about ‘time outs’ then.
My children get time outs or spankings, depending on the offense. Annoying behaviour gets time outs, potentially dangerous ones get spankings. And I know that if I smack my 4 year old for running away from me in a crowded parking lot, someone will call the cops on me.
We need to crack down on these kids. Starting with parents. Paddle the child, but I’d be all for a smack for mommy, too if she won’t take responsibility for that child. Too many parents these days are convinced that their darling is special and needs to be understood rather then punished.
I’m not saying that there are some kids with real issues- my son is Autistic- but these kids running around with their pants down and pretending to be .50 are nothing more the the product of their ‘special parents’ and they should all be treated to a dose of tough love.