“The report that was released accused the Charleston Fire Department of willfully ignoring firefighters’ safety, and the city was fined $9,325. The state agency and the city announced an agreement this week in which the city admits no wrongdoing fighting the fire, but will pay $3,160 in fines.”
um….so how do they explain the loss of life to the families of those 9 firefighters whom lost their lives? they pay a lesser fee because? sounds like another way not to take complete responsibility for the safety of it’s saviors. especially in this time of the season. that would be like only putting up red and green lights on the intersections w/no yellow lights! safety is a foremost issue with any company. especially for those whom are trying to save people’s lives and property.
The central issue here is the operative protocol of the fire department, not just SC either. This case involved a frame warehouse full of flammable sofa’s and the building was fully engulfed when the FD arrived. No lives were at risk and there was absolutely no reason to put these guys in harms way at that point. All that was required was to keep it from spreading to adjoining structures, and either let it burn out, or extinguish it from a safe distance. All too frequently, these guys approach every fire the same way. The FDNY had it’s own gaffe a few months ago when it sent two guys into the Deutsche bank building when some debris caught fire. They died from lack of oxygen and because a standpipe was dry. Of course it was dry! This building has been condemned and under demolition since 9/11. There was nothing to save and no reason for these guys to have died trying to save nothing.
On a gentler note, and as a lover of all things Charleston, I think it’s remarkable that such communication was exchanged via email. In this day and time, you’d think everyone would know the dangers of email.
It seems to me the issue is the manner in which the whole investigation results were handled. The safety protocols of the fire department were not followed, and people died. And all that the “safety” officials were concerned with was how and when to release the report so that it is “downplayed”. I find the lack of concern for the truth to be known by the very people who suppose to ensure safer work places appalling. And I don’t think firemen would go into a building without orders to do so or at least consent by their higher ranking authorities. The one in charge of denying or consenting or ordering the actions of the firemen should be held accountable. And the families of those men must be furious that the deaths of their loved ones must be “downplayed”. It seems they are trying to make them unimportant, and by some of the comments made to be at fault.
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“The report that was released accused the Charleston Fire Department of willfully ignoring firefighters’ safety, and the city was fined $9,325. The state agency and the city announced an agreement this week in which the city admits no wrongdoing fighting the fire, but will pay $3,160 in fines.”
um….so how do they explain the loss of life to the families of those 9 firefighters whom lost their lives? they pay a lesser fee because? sounds like another way not to take complete responsibility for the safety of it’s saviors. especially in this time of the season. that would be like only putting up red and green lights on the intersections w/no yellow lights! safety is a foremost issue with any company. especially for those whom are trying to save people’s lives and property.
The central issue here is the operative protocol of the fire department, not just SC either. This case involved a frame warehouse full of flammable sofa’s and the building was fully engulfed when the FD arrived. No lives were at risk and there was absolutely no reason to put these guys in harms way at that point. All that was required was to keep it from spreading to adjoining structures, and either let it burn out, or extinguish it from a safe distance. All too frequently, these guys approach every fire the same way. The FDNY had it’s own gaffe a few months ago when it sent two guys into the Deutsche bank building when some debris caught fire. They died from lack of oxygen and because a standpipe was dry. Of course it was dry! This building has been condemned and under demolition since 9/11. There was nothing to save and no reason for these guys to have died trying to save nothing.
Amen, Bill Reed.
On a gentler note, and as a lover of all things Charleston, I think it’s remarkable that such communication was exchanged via email. In this day and time, you’d think everyone would know the dangers of email.
Alas, some people are terminally obtuse.
It seems to me the issue is the manner in which the whole investigation results were handled. The safety protocols of the fire department were not followed, and people died. And all that the “safety” officials were concerned with was how and when to release the report so that it is “downplayed”. I find the lack of concern for the truth to be known by the very people who suppose to ensure safer work places appalling. And I don’t think firemen would go into a building without orders to do so or at least consent by their higher ranking authorities. The one in charge of denying or consenting or ordering the actions of the firemen should be held accountable. And the families of those men must be furious that the deaths of their loved ones must be “downplayed”. It seems they are trying to make them unimportant, and by some of the comments made to be at fault.