As a native Floridian, common sense has to come into play. I am doing everything I can to protect my investment from storms, which unfortunately are part of living in Florida. However, that doesn’t mean we have to tempt fate and build on the coaast (or on the river, or on the lake.) The rich are buiding these outlandish properties RIGHT ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS, that are there to protect the land from these storms. When is the city/county/state legislature going to pull their heads out of the sand and realize that those building these outlandish properties are creating this problem. Look at the high-rises up and down the coast.
I usually don’t post comments regarding this topic, because, well, I’m not from Florida, so what does it matter to me. But now I’m kind of angry. $318 Million of the federal goverment’s money to rebuild. What happens if this does indeed turn out to be another horrible hurricane season? Then what?
I’m all for helping my neighbor, but sometimes it pisses me off.
Well, when a tornado stikes Nebraska and you want to rebuild, we might say the same thing – why bother, it’s very likely there can be anothe one. Sorry, we cannot predict mother nature.
It irks me that you people think we plan for this to happen, when infact we do all we can to protect our homes and property so it doesn’t take additional funds to repair or rebuild.
Small minds.
Pasco, I have to tell you that as a Florida agent, I agree with our Cornhusker friend here. I’ve lived in Florida most of my life and am a retail agent here now. That said, if I lived in the Midwest, I woudn’t be terribly enthusiastic about footing the bill for coastal development, and for hurricanes that we ALL know are coming.
All of us in Florida need to get our heads out of the sand. The winds will blow, and we need to be able to (mostly) take care of ourselves and not rely on Big Brother government to bail us out. We need to suffer through the current situation, harden our homes, and get it together. If the Feds continue to subsidize us after each storm, they’re just enabling irresponsible behavior. Look at how much good that’s done for southern Louisiana. I was happy to help after Katrina (and did so) but after watching what’s been done, and how they re-elected the morons that oversaw that debacle, I’m not likely to put on my boots again for that particular group. If MS or AL gets hit again, then give me a call.
We appreciate the help we get here in Florida after the storms. We really do. But we don’t need to take it for granted, nor expect that the world will jump to our aid every time Jim Cantore shows up.
Pasco: Yours seems to be the only “small mind” on this issue. History has proven that Florida is THE prime target for tropical storms and hurricanes year after year. How many times should the rest of the taxpaying U.S. have to pay to rebuild your homes? Floridians have steadfastly refused to pay for up-graded construction to protect their property. They’ve balked at the thought of having to pay for hurricane strapping that adds a few hundred dollars to new construction. They’re assuming the risk of living there. If they can’t pay to insure their property they shouldn’t be looking to the rest of the country to bail them out. There is no educational value in the second kick of a mule. Floridians just don’t get it.
This type of bailout and legislation is going to be even more important if the State of Florida is hit hard with large hurricane losses in the next few years. With the state (taxpayers) potentially footing the bill for future assessments to the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund and Citizens, plus the pending roll-back in taxes, our people, our counties, and our state government will be more cash stapped than ever.
As a Florida native, I’m frankly embarassed, but we’ve seen it coming and the politicians refuse to admit we have created our own problems by allowing development of coastal property to grow out of control. Why can’t they legislate something useful in this critical area?
Our current Governor, wanna-be future President, will stop at nothing to make himself out to be the “People’s Governor”, but he’s slowly taking away what will keep Florida a viable, self-supporting, and valuable state in which to live and work, for those of us who choose to live here.
I certainly don’t think most rational Floridians expect a free ride from the government. Hopefully, the dear Governor has a better plan than this down the road, assuming he’s still around..
I don’t understand why the government is footing the bill on these disasters anyway.I thought that what we paid insurance premiums for?
Why pay for insuirance if all the insurance comapnies are going to do is to have the states look to the federal government to bail their butt’s out from fullfilling their obligations of there policy holders.
As for the Nebraskan,beware your turn will come when YOUR state will need the same cart blanche from the government.
We have to stand up to the insurance companies and insist they pay for the services that policy holders pay premiums for.
I am going to ask the question again.Where does all the money that insurance companies collect go? Check MSN Insider trading.Look up any insurance company symbol and you’ll see BONUS’go to CEO/CFO and some of the upper chalante.I mean 7 million a year! Granted this is chump change to most insurance companies but this money should be spent to uphold the contracts of utmost good faith!
Ya think?
I love the idle threats of “beware, you may need your butt covered someday….” blah blah blah…yes, indeed, I may. But I see tornadoes swoop through here all the dang time. I’ve seen cities destroyed, but yet have managed to rebuild. (In fact, I’ve lived in Nebraska all of my life and have yet to be directly hit by a tornado…how about those odds! knock on wood) How much goverment assistance was provided I don’t know, but I guarantee you, the cost of living here is not as ridiculous as it is in Florida. I don’t mind helping out a person living well within their means, but I sure as hell mind helping to rebuild someone’s OCEAN FRONT mansion.
The difference between Florida and Nebraska is this….yes, we may get hit by a tornado that will damage our home, etc…but most people here don’t live in mansions and tornadoes come with little if any warning at all. In Florida, you have warnings of hurricanes, you KNOW the most dangerous areas, yet you continue to rebuild and rebuild and act like the rest of the country should pay the dues.
I don’t care if you live in Florida, but live smart. Stop building high rises on the coast, stop building mansions you can’t afford to rebuild every time a hurricane destroys it.
My premium should not increase in Nebraska because somebody lives outside of their means in Florida.
Thats all I’m trying to say.
Now if you’ll excuse me…I have to go find Toto and Auntie Em (bad reference because that’s KANSAS). :)
Nebraska…I do not believe that the millionaires in mansions are the ones getting this money. It is the stupid ones without insurance and poor ones that could not afford the insurance. Also, remember this is not FREE money it is in the form of loans. Also, codes are being enforced when a home has to be rebuilt.
Linda – The way I’m reading this, there is no repayment required. Are you saying that any individuals who seek aid would be repaying the state of Florida and/or their County / Municipality? I interepreted this bail-out as it going primarily to infrastructure, public properties, and so on, for the State, not the uninsured and/or underinsured stupids and the poor who could not afford insurance.
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As a native Floridian, common sense has to come into play. I am doing everything I can to protect my investment from storms, which unfortunately are part of living in Florida. However, that doesn’t mean we have to tempt fate and build on the coaast (or on the river, or on the lake.) The rich are buiding these outlandish properties RIGHT ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS, that are there to protect the land from these storms. When is the city/county/state legislature going to pull their heads out of the sand and realize that those building these outlandish properties are creating this problem. Look at the high-rises up and down the coast.
I usually don’t post comments regarding this topic, because, well, I’m not from Florida, so what does it matter to me. But now I’m kind of angry. $318 Million of the federal goverment’s money to rebuild. What happens if this does indeed turn out to be another horrible hurricane season? Then what?
I’m all for helping my neighbor, but sometimes it pisses me off.
Well, when a tornado stikes Nebraska and you want to rebuild, we might say the same thing – why bother, it’s very likely there can be anothe one. Sorry, we cannot predict mother nature.
It irks me that you people think we plan for this to happen, when infact we do all we can to protect our homes and property so it doesn’t take additional funds to repair or rebuild.
Small minds.
Pasco, I have to tell you that as a Florida agent, I agree with our Cornhusker friend here. I’ve lived in Florida most of my life and am a retail agent here now. That said, if I lived in the Midwest, I woudn’t be terribly enthusiastic about footing the bill for coastal development, and for hurricanes that we ALL know are coming.
All of us in Florida need to get our heads out of the sand. The winds will blow, and we need to be able to (mostly) take care of ourselves and not rely on Big Brother government to bail us out. We need to suffer through the current situation, harden our homes, and get it together. If the Feds continue to subsidize us after each storm, they’re just enabling irresponsible behavior. Look at how much good that’s done for southern Louisiana. I was happy to help after Katrina (and did so) but after watching what’s been done, and how they re-elected the morons that oversaw that debacle, I’m not likely to put on my boots again for that particular group. If MS or AL gets hit again, then give me a call.
We appreciate the help we get here in Florida after the storms. We really do. But we don’t need to take it for granted, nor expect that the world will jump to our aid every time Jim Cantore shows up.
Pasco: Yours seems to be the only “small mind” on this issue. History has proven that Florida is THE prime target for tropical storms and hurricanes year after year. How many times should the rest of the taxpaying U.S. have to pay to rebuild your homes? Floridians have steadfastly refused to pay for up-graded construction to protect their property. They’ve balked at the thought of having to pay for hurricane strapping that adds a few hundred dollars to new construction. They’re assuming the risk of living there. If they can’t pay to insure their property they shouldn’t be looking to the rest of the country to bail them out. There is no educational value in the second kick of a mule. Floridians just don’t get it.
This type of bailout and legislation is going to be even more important if the State of Florida is hit hard with large hurricane losses in the next few years. With the state (taxpayers) potentially footing the bill for future assessments to the Florida Hurricane Catastrophe Fund and Citizens, plus the pending roll-back in taxes, our people, our counties, and our state government will be more cash stapped than ever.
As a Florida native, I’m frankly embarassed, but we’ve seen it coming and the politicians refuse to admit we have created our own problems by allowing development of coastal property to grow out of control. Why can’t they legislate something useful in this critical area?
Our current Governor, wanna-be future President, will stop at nothing to make himself out to be the “People’s Governor”, but he’s slowly taking away what will keep Florida a viable, self-supporting, and valuable state in which to live and work, for those of us who choose to live here.
I certainly don’t think most rational Floridians expect a free ride from the government. Hopefully, the dear Governor has a better plan than this down the road, assuming he’s still around..
I don’t understand why the government is footing the bill on these disasters anyway.I thought that what we paid insurance premiums for?
Why pay for insuirance if all the insurance comapnies are going to do is to have the states look to the federal government to bail their butt’s out from fullfilling their obligations of there policy holders.
As for the Nebraskan,beware your turn will come when YOUR state will need the same cart blanche from the government.
We have to stand up to the insurance companies and insist they pay for the services that policy holders pay premiums for.
I am going to ask the question again.Where does all the money that insurance companies collect go? Check MSN Insider trading.Look up any insurance company symbol and you’ll see BONUS’go to CEO/CFO and some of the upper chalante.I mean 7 million a year! Granted this is chump change to most insurance companies but this money should be spent to uphold the contracts of utmost good faith!
Ya think?
I love the idle threats of “beware, you may need your butt covered someday….” blah blah blah…yes, indeed, I may. But I see tornadoes swoop through here all the dang time. I’ve seen cities destroyed, but yet have managed to rebuild. (In fact, I’ve lived in Nebraska all of my life and have yet to be directly hit by a tornado…how about those odds! knock on wood) How much goverment assistance was provided I don’t know, but I guarantee you, the cost of living here is not as ridiculous as it is in Florida. I don’t mind helping out a person living well within their means, but I sure as hell mind helping to rebuild someone’s OCEAN FRONT mansion.
The difference between Florida and Nebraska is this….yes, we may get hit by a tornado that will damage our home, etc…but most people here don’t live in mansions and tornadoes come with little if any warning at all. In Florida, you have warnings of hurricanes, you KNOW the most dangerous areas, yet you continue to rebuild and rebuild and act like the rest of the country should pay the dues.
I don’t care if you live in Florida, but live smart. Stop building high rises on the coast, stop building mansions you can’t afford to rebuild every time a hurricane destroys it.
My premium should not increase in Nebraska because somebody lives outside of their means in Florida.
Thats all I’m trying to say.
Now if you’ll excuse me…I have to go find Toto and Auntie Em (bad reference because that’s KANSAS). :)
Nebraska…I do not believe that the millionaires in mansions are the ones getting this money. It is the stupid ones without insurance and poor ones that could not afford the insurance. Also, remember this is not FREE money it is in the form of loans. Also, codes are being enforced when a home has to be rebuilt.
Linda – The way I’m reading this, there is no repayment required. Are you saying that any individuals who seek aid would be repaying the state of Florida and/or their County / Municipality? I interepreted this bail-out as it going primarily to infrastructure, public properties, and so on, for the State, not the uninsured and/or underinsured stupids and the poor who could not afford insurance.
Thanks!