A clear violation of Church and State where the State steps in to establish church rules. I can not foresee a circumstance where I’d want to carry a gun into a church but in these troubled times of terrorism, gay activism along with the long established Arkansas snake handling churhes and both Christian and Anti-Christian fanatics it might not be such a bad idea.
The line by Sen. Sue Madison about “I don’t know of any church where the carrying of guns is a sacred belief” is a great example of politicians making a non-issue the issue.
Who ever said that carry guns was a religious belief? Nobody, this isn’t about belief, it’s about self-defense.
The people who introduced the bill probably had some of the recent church and school shootings in mind. In every case, an outsider came to the facility to shoot people, mostly women and children.
It would be more comforting to know there were legally licensed and trained persons ready to defend the innocent people seeking sanctuary at a house of worship.
The lady politician has her bodyguards, and they probably stand outside her church if she attends, therefore she can make nonsensical comments about guns and churches. It is comforting to know that the people who are against allowing citizens to have guns know that the crazy who wants to kill a bunch of women, children, and unarmed men will not be the ones who are killed. When it happens, they will want more gun laws, not less. The stupidity of these people amazes me. Please remember their names and file suit against them when their glib remarks cause senseless deaths.
We actually need less laws on the books. Our legislature (AR & Federal) are doing everything they can to put the tobacco companies out of business. This country was founded upon tobacco and cotton trade. Many countries welcome American tobacco, our country makes every attempt to put them out of business. Go figure.
Frs. Smith and Wesson tend to deter those with anti-social ideas from attending church, school, or other sociable places. I believe that they qualify as examples of insurance policies, since they are something that you pay for that you hope that you will never have to need.
Note that as others mentioned in this thread that police stations, gun stores, and military guys with equipment are rarely bothered. “Gun free” zones that do not have metal detectors and deputies (like court houses and government buildings) seem to be target number one. I have not seen anyone with a “gun free zone” sticker on their front and/or back door, although I have seen Colt and Smith & Wesson decals on many doors. Interestingly, they have never been bothered by miscreants.
I see that the gunman that recently killed the pastor did not obey the gun ban in church laws. It seems that everyone else did. The pastor paid for their obedience with his life. Is there anything that will show people that gun ban laws simply do not work? Well, actually they do, they kept the parishoners from being able to defend their pastor.
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A clear violation of Church and State where the State steps in to establish church rules. I can not foresee a circumstance where I’d want to carry a gun into a church but in these troubled times of terrorism, gay activism along with the long established Arkansas snake handling churhes and both Christian and Anti-Christian fanatics it might not be such a bad idea.
The line by Sen. Sue Madison about “I don’t know of any church where the carrying of guns is a sacred belief” is a great example of politicians making a non-issue the issue.
Who ever said that carry guns was a religious belief? Nobody, this isn’t about belief, it’s about self-defense.
The people who introduced the bill probably had some of the recent church and school shootings in mind. In every case, an outsider came to the facility to shoot people, mostly women and children.
It would be more comforting to know there were legally licensed and trained persons ready to defend the innocent people seeking sanctuary at a house of worship.
The lady politician has her bodyguards, and they probably stand outside her church if she attends, therefore she can make nonsensical comments about guns and churches. It is comforting to know that the people who are against allowing citizens to have guns know that the crazy who wants to kill a bunch of women, children, and unarmed men will not be the ones who are killed. When it happens, they will want more gun laws, not less. The stupidity of these people amazes me. Please remember their names and file suit against them when their glib remarks cause senseless deaths.
We actually need less laws on the books. Our legislature (AR & Federal) are doing everything they can to put the tobacco companies out of business. This country was founded upon tobacco and cotton trade. Many countries welcome American tobacco, our country makes every attempt to put them out of business. Go figure.
Maybe Fr’s. Smith and Wesson would help deter those inclined to bring guns to a church.
Frs. Smith and Wesson tend to deter those with anti-social ideas from attending church, school, or other sociable places. I believe that they qualify as examples of insurance policies, since they are something that you pay for that you hope that you will never have to need.
Note that as others mentioned in this thread that police stations, gun stores, and military guys with equipment are rarely bothered. “Gun free” zones that do not have metal detectors and deputies (like court houses and government buildings) seem to be target number one. I have not seen anyone with a “gun free zone” sticker on their front and/or back door, although I have seen Colt and Smith & Wesson decals on many doors. Interestingly, they have never been bothered by miscreants.
I see that the gunman that recently killed the pastor did not obey the gun ban in church laws. It seems that everyone else did. The pastor paid for their obedience with his life. Is there anything that will show people that gun ban laws simply do not work? Well, actually they do, they kept the parishoners from being able to defend their pastor.