It’s their business, ain’t it? If they don’t want insurance, if they are wealthy enough not to need it, if they are not citizens, etc etc there might be any number of reasons that they don’t have it. Why is this ever considered newsworthy? Only because libs want to stalinize the entire healthcare industry of the nation, that’s why. It’s the one way that they can get their hooks into us all because everyone needs healthcare some time or other.
Gov Bush of Texas laid the groundwork for this and of course President Bush now presides over the largest industrialized nation with this healtchcare problem. See a pattern? Ya think? The whole approach of compassionate conservatism was to drag the whole nation down to Texas’s substandard and pitiful levels of education, public services and so forth. Are you happy now? Texas continues to distinguish itself as the only US state where Workers Comp is not required–at any size large or small. Nineteenth century sweatshops anyone?
I do much appreciate your term “stalinize”–obsessive control of information, as in the Bush regime, is a central hallmark of Stalinism as is militarization of the population for wars.
What I don’t like is that local taxes throughout the nation are driven up by the uninusred and underinsured showing up at public hospitals. People get sick. People reporduce. People get injured, including on the (uninsured) job. I guess we leave them all outside to suffer and eventually die? Or? You think no one is stealing $ out of your pocket now because of this issue? Think again.
Or we repatriate them all and then find we have expensive goods and housing and not enough food to eat because no one is in the fields? Seems the immigration issue just might fit in here somewhere.
In the meantime, corporate predators such as the famous Walmart and all the big homebuilders you just bought your oh-so valuable house from in our phony economy, refuse healthcare for employees and offload it onto you and me. Pretty neat trick!
Rave on rightwingers! I’m leaving for that holiday called Labor Day. Remember what labor, big or small initial L once meant for the US? Think about it over the weekend.
President Bush now presides over the largest free nation on earth despite whacko commie efforts to enslave us with confiscatory taxation and the micromanagement of the economy.
Government intervention in the healthcare industry has given us the tremendous cost increases of the past fifty years due to subsidization of deadbeats and constrictive regulation of the healthcare industry. Oh yeah, and the dems’ 2nd favorite lobby, trial lawyers, have ensured that docs can be sued a la Johnny “Everyone give up their SUV’s but me” Edwards-type leeches.
Go back to reading dailykook.com. Better yet, move to Cuba.
Yeah, I see a pattern you simpleton pinko. Everything is Bush’s fault according to you liberal jerks.
You just can’t make up your mind-is Bush a total moron or a criminal mastermind who wants to kill our children and give all the tax breaks to the rich?
The problem with this type of pontificated tripe is it doesn’t stand the logic test…which is fine for liberal sheep but doesn’t fly with the right.
There’s another word for right – correct.
You’re a mogul alright-a bump in the road to critical thinking and individual responsibility.
Funny how the arguments for universal health insurance are in reality arguments that no one should be allowed to have health insurance. If the government it just going to give everyone health care, the no one will need health insurance. If Wal-Mart et al are going to be forced to provide insurance to their workers by force of law (meaning by bayonette) then we will have bcome a fascist country, i.e., businesses are privately owned by government controls prices, resources, distribution, etc.
The following remarks by by Walter Williams. No thinking person can refute anything that he says, but shouldn’t stop Media Mogul from trying.
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Problems with our health care system are leading some to fall prey to proposals calling for a nationalized single-payer health care system like Canada’s or Britain’s. There are a few things that we might take into consideration before falling for these proposals.
London’s Observer (3/3/02) carried a story saying that an “unpublished report shows some patients are now having to wait more than eight months for treatment, during which time many of their cancers become incurable.”
Another story said, “According to a World Health Organisation report to be published later this year, around 10,000 British people die unnecessarily from cancer each year — three times as many as are killed on our roads.”
The Observer (12/16/01) also reported, “A recent academic study showed National Health Service delays in bowel cancer treatment were so great that, in one in five cases, cancer which was curable at the time of diagnosis had become incurable by the time of treatment.”
The story is no better in Canada’s national health care system. The Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute has a yearly publication titled, “Waiting Your Turn.” Its 2006 edition gives waiting times, by treatments, from a person’s referral by a general practitioner to treatment by a specialist.
The shortest waiting time was for oncology (4.9 weeks). The longest waiting time was for orthopedic surgery (40.3 weeks), followed by plastic surgery (35.4 weeks), and neurosurgery (31.7 weeks).
Canadians face significant waiting times for various diagnostics such as computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and ultrasound scans. The median wait for a CT scan across Canada was 4.3 weeks, but in Prince Edward Island, it’s 9 weeks.
A Canadian’s median wait for an MRI was 10.3 weeks, but in Newfoundland, patients waited 28 weeks. Finally, the median wait for an ultrasound was 3.8 weeks across Canada, but in Manitoba and Prince Edward Island it was 8 weeks.
Despite the long waiting times Canadians suffer, sometimes resulting in death, under federal law, private clinics are not legally allowed to provide services covered by the Canada Health Act. Regardless of this prohibition, a few black-market clinics service patients who are willing to break the law to get treatment.
In British Columbia, for example, Bill 82 provides that a physician can be fined up to $20,000 for accepting fees for surgery. According to a Canada News article, “Shortage of Doctors and Nurses Could Hurt Medicare Reforms” (3/5/03), about 10,000 doctors left Canada during the 1990s.
There’s help for some Canadian patients. According to a Canadian Medical Association Journal article, “U.S. Hospitals Use Waiting-List Woes to Woo Canadians” (2/22/2000), “British Columbia patients fed up with sojourns on waiting lists as they await tests or treatment are being wooed by a hospital in Washington state that has begun offering package deals. A second U.S. hospital is also considering marketing its services.”
One of the attractions is that an MRI, which can take anywhere from 10 to 28 weeks in Canada, can be had in two days at Olympic Memorial Hospital in Port Angeles, Wash. Already, Cleveland is Canada’s hip-replacement center.
Some of our politicians hold up the Canadian and British nationalized health care systems as models for us. You can bet that should we ever have such a system, they would exempt themselves from what the rest of us would have to endure.
There’s a cure for our health care problems. That cure is not to demand more government but less government. I challenge anyone to identify a problem with health care in America that is not caused or aggravated by federal, state, and local governments. And, I challenge anyone to show me people dying on the streets because they don’t have health insurance.
Funny you should mention flood insurance. I was thinking that the ex-New Orleanians which are still living off of the government dole may have been one reason Texas is #1 in this regard.
By the way, government health insurance is making its way in baby steps now. Watch out for SCHIP, pawned on us “for the children.” President Bush should be commended for trying to put a hault to increased spending on this. Happy Day, you said it all. It’s my responsibility, not, as the libs would say, my right.
The socialistic SCHIP program would cover a family of four eraning up to $85k/yr. Plus, this “for the children program” would cover the parents of that family until they are twenty five.
Leftists can’t find the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution but they can find abortion and health coverage. Please copy out the 10th Amendment longhand 100 times this evening children. There’s a quiz tomorrow.
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It’s their business, ain’t it? If they don’t want insurance, if they are wealthy enough not to need it, if they are not citizens, etc etc there might be any number of reasons that they don’t have it. Why is this ever considered newsworthy? Only because libs want to stalinize the entire healthcare industry of the nation, that’s why. It’s the one way that they can get their hooks into us all because everyone needs healthcare some time or other.
Gov Bush of Texas laid the groundwork for this and of course President Bush now presides over the largest industrialized nation with this healtchcare problem. See a pattern? Ya think? The whole approach of compassionate conservatism was to drag the whole nation down to Texas’s substandard and pitiful levels of education, public services and so forth. Are you happy now? Texas continues to distinguish itself as the only US state where Workers Comp is not required–at any size large or small. Nineteenth century sweatshops anyone?
I do much appreciate your term “stalinize”–obsessive control of information, as in the Bush regime, is a central hallmark of Stalinism as is militarization of the population for wars.
What I don’t like is that local taxes throughout the nation are driven up by the uninusred and underinsured showing up at public hospitals. People get sick. People reporduce. People get injured, including on the (uninsured) job. I guess we leave them all outside to suffer and eventually die? Or? You think no one is stealing $ out of your pocket now because of this issue? Think again.
Or we repatriate them all and then find we have expensive goods and housing and not enough food to eat because no one is in the fields? Seems the immigration issue just might fit in here somewhere.
In the meantime, corporate predators such as the famous Walmart and all the big homebuilders you just bought your oh-so valuable house from in our phony economy, refuse healthcare for employees and offload it onto you and me. Pretty neat trick!
Rave on rightwingers! I’m leaving for that holiday called Labor Day. Remember what labor, big or small initial L once meant for the US? Think about it over the weekend.
President Bush now presides over the largest free nation on earth despite whacko commie efforts to enslave us with confiscatory taxation and the micromanagement of the economy.
Government intervention in the healthcare industry has given us the tremendous cost increases of the past fifty years due to subsidization of deadbeats and constrictive regulation of the healthcare industry. Oh yeah, and the dems’ 2nd favorite lobby, trial lawyers, have ensured that docs can be sued a la Johnny “Everyone give up their SUV’s but me” Edwards-type leeches.
Go back to reading dailykook.com. Better yet, move to Cuba.
Yeah, I see a pattern you simpleton pinko. Everything is Bush’s fault according to you liberal jerks.
You just can’t make up your mind-is Bush a total moron or a criminal mastermind who wants to kill our children and give all the tax breaks to the rich?
The problem with this type of pontificated tripe is it doesn’t stand the logic test…which is fine for liberal sheep but doesn’t fly with the right.
There’s another word for right – correct.
You’re a mogul alright-a bump in the road to critical thinking and individual responsibility.
Funny how the arguments for universal health insurance are in reality arguments that no one should be allowed to have health insurance. If the government it just going to give everyone health care, the no one will need health insurance. If Wal-Mart et al are going to be forced to provide insurance to their workers by force of law (meaning by bayonette) then we will have bcome a fascist country, i.e., businesses are privately owned by government controls prices, resources, distribution, etc.
The following remarks by by Walter Williams. No thinking person can refute anything that he says, but shouldn’t stop Media Mogul from trying.
~~~
Problems with our health care system are leading some to fall prey to proposals calling for a nationalized single-payer health care system like Canada’s or Britain’s. There are a few things that we might take into consideration before falling for these proposals.
London’s Observer (3/3/02) carried a story saying that an “unpublished report shows some patients are now having to wait more than eight months for treatment, during which time many of their cancers become incurable.”
Another story said, “According to a World Health Organisation report to be published later this year, around 10,000 British people die unnecessarily from cancer each year — three times as many as are killed on our roads.”
The Observer (12/16/01) also reported, “A recent academic study showed National Health Service delays in bowel cancer treatment were so great that, in one in five cases, cancer which was curable at the time of diagnosis had become incurable by the time of treatment.”
The story is no better in Canada’s national health care system. The Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute has a yearly publication titled, “Waiting Your Turn.” Its 2006 edition gives waiting times, by treatments, from a person’s referral by a general practitioner to treatment by a specialist.
The shortest waiting time was for oncology (4.9 weeks). The longest waiting time was for orthopedic surgery (40.3 weeks), followed by plastic surgery (35.4 weeks), and neurosurgery (31.7 weeks).
Canadians face significant waiting times for various diagnostics such as computed tomography (CT), magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), and ultrasound scans. The median wait for a CT scan across Canada was 4.3 weeks, but in Prince Edward Island, it’s 9 weeks.
A Canadian’s median wait for an MRI was 10.3 weeks, but in Newfoundland, patients waited 28 weeks. Finally, the median wait for an ultrasound was 3.8 weeks across Canada, but in Manitoba and Prince Edward Island it was 8 weeks.
Despite the long waiting times Canadians suffer, sometimes resulting in death, under federal law, private clinics are not legally allowed to provide services covered by the Canada Health Act. Regardless of this prohibition, a few black-market clinics service patients who are willing to break the law to get treatment.
In British Columbia, for example, Bill 82 provides that a physician can be fined up to $20,000 for accepting fees for surgery. According to a Canada News article, “Shortage of Doctors and Nurses Could Hurt Medicare Reforms” (3/5/03), about 10,000 doctors left Canada during the 1990s.
There’s help for some Canadian patients. According to a Canadian Medical Association Journal article, “U.S. Hospitals Use Waiting-List Woes to Woo Canadians” (2/22/2000), “British Columbia patients fed up with sojourns on waiting lists as they await tests or treatment are being wooed by a hospital in Washington state that has begun offering package deals. A second U.S. hospital is also considering marketing its services.”
One of the attractions is that an MRI, which can take anywhere from 10 to 28 weeks in Canada, can be had in two days at Olympic Memorial Hospital in Port Angeles, Wash. Already, Cleveland is Canada’s hip-replacement center.
Some of our politicians hold up the Canadian and British nationalized health care systems as models for us. You can bet that should we ever have such a system, they would exempt themselves from what the rest of us would have to endure.
There’s a cure for our health care problems. That cure is not to demand more government but less government. I challenge anyone to identify a problem with health care in America that is not caused or aggravated by federal, state, and local governments. And, I challenge anyone to show me people dying on the streets because they don’t have health insurance.
-Walter Williams
Looks like the two neo-kkkons on the board are wearing their tinfoil hats today.
A. I’m Black. B. Refute one thing we said. It’s easy to call names, ya pinko, but try arguing to support your commie lies. Commie.
a lot of things…
Maybe they forgot to mention a lot of things, but healthcare is avaialble to those that choose to buy it!!!
Kinda like all the States that have access to Flood Insurance & just didn’t buy it.
Have a Happy Day!
Funny you should mention flood insurance. I was thinking that the ex-New Orleanians which are still living off of the government dole may have been one reason Texas is #1 in this regard.
By the way, government health insurance is making its way in baby steps now. Watch out for SCHIP, pawned on us “for the children.” President Bush should be commended for trying to put a hault to increased spending on this. Happy Day, you said it all. It’s my responsibility, not, as the libs would say, my right.
The socialistic SCHIP program would cover a family of four eraning up to $85k/yr. Plus, this “for the children program” would cover the parents of that family until they are twenty five.
Leftists can’t find the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution but they can find abortion and health coverage. Please copy out the 10th Amendment longhand 100 times this evening children. There’s a quiz tomorrow.