Drunk Driving Death Rates Decline in 40 States

December 9, 2009

  • December 9, 2009 at 7:08 am
    LOL says:
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    Sorry Allan…I’m used to those that don’t understand both sides of an issue leading off with that comment.

    What next? I’m a drunk and a repeat offending drunk driver? Pretty sad response Allan.

  • December 9, 2009 at 8:15 am
    Allan says:
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    How is that a sad response when you seem to point out the alleged falsehood of the stats that were given and you go and correct them? I know anyone in there right mind denounces drunk drivers but you make it sound like drunk drivers are the victims thats all.

  • December 9, 2009 at 8:48 am
    Dui PointEight says:
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    You both have valid pointssto-p being jackasses in ignoring the others validity to comment. LOL I agree the facts are distorted from MADD such is the nature of graphs, charts and figures Chuck’s statistics lie. Allan – it does appear that LOL is touting Drunk Driving but I give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s harping on “misleading” facts. I’m awaiting the day we promote stats from DAMM (Drunks Against Madd Mothers) which support the fact that they are better drivers with afew drinks in them, than they are sober.

  • December 9, 2009 at 10:30 am
    Mr. Solvent says:
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    Perhaps it’s that people don’t have the money to drink outside of their homes these days.

  • December 9, 2009 at 1:02 am
    LOL says:
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    11,993 fatalities caused by drunk drivers….FALSE…..The common issue is the drunk driver in all cases, not the resultant fatality. I agree the NHTSA FARS database “claims” these as all caused by drunk drivers. An outright lie people become hoodwinked by.

    The facts:

    1. Your drunk and die in a single vehicle accident, you’re not an innocent victim of a DD.

    2. Single vehicle crashes produce 0 innocent victims of drunk drivers.

    3. Why are we counting total fatalities? You need to have a driver in order to have a crash involving alcohol. DD laws are passed against drivers, not passengers. 11,993 artificially inflates the issue.

    So having analyzed the FARS database ad nauseum, here are the facts related to drunk DRIVERS and death.

    In 2008, there were 50,186 DRIVERs involved in a crash resulting in at least one fatality.

    -7,139 of those drivers crashed in single vehicle accidents.

    -43,047 drivers were in multi-vehicle crashes, which create potential innocent victims

    How many drivers were at or above .08? 2,440 drivers in ALL OF 2008. A far cry from the inflated 11,993 the MADD run NHTSA touts.

    How many of the 2,440 were over .12? 83%

    Funny thing is you can’t claim all 2,440 were at fault because of some measurable amount of a substance in their blood either.

    MADD and NHTSA have a neo-prohibitionist guided agenda.

    It’s time to take away Chcuk Hurley’s 250k annual salary and decommission MADD.

    PS >>>> What happened to the 40,607 sober drivers that killed?

  • December 9, 2009 at 1:19 am
    George says:
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    Not to mention the fact that even if the numbers are correct for both years, it’s much much much more likely that it’s a statistical anomaly than a causal relationship between DUI crackdowns and the number of drunk driver crashes.

  • December 9, 2009 at 6:42 am
    Allan says:
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    From the context of your post and with all your stats, it almost sounds like you’re in favor or in defense of drunk drivers.

  • December 10, 2009 at 8:20 am
    LOL says:
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    Allan, let me phrase my response this way. Being against MADD and their misguided agendas in no way makes a person pro drunk driving.

    Many people are hoodwinked by the false statistics being spewed by the MADD-run NHTSA. I happen to have taken it upon myself to prove how big the lies MADD and the NHTSA are communicating to us.

    You’re odds of being killed by the evil drunk driver are so nominal that MADD has to use inflated statistics and the liberal media to spread propaganda to the country. Propaganda that is taken hook, line and sinker without any validation whatsoever.

    So what about the 40k+ inattentive, sober and speeding drivers doing the majority of the killing in 2008? Should the repeat offender speeders now be excessively fined and be serving jail time since they are the majority killers on the roads?

    The only benefit these laws serve is to line MADD and municipalities pockets for committing a moving violation that 99.99999% of the time has no victim.

    MADD is about Vengeance and Greed. Period. Hope that helps you understand my position.

    I don’t support drunk driving. I also don’t support these draconian laws that do nothing to save lives. The DUI economy is currently running at 18-20 billion annually. Did you know that?

  • December 10, 2009 at 9:32 am
    LOL says:
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    I agree Allan. Drunk kills, drunk serves jail time. Sober kills, sober serves jail time. So MADD pushes jail for repeat offenders that don’t kill anyone. A DD get’s a lifetime record to be used against them down the road.

    The MADD victim has just been arrested for an offense with no victim. Speeding is an offense with no victim. Should we be locking up speeders that repeat more than 2x in their lifetime?

    Both activities are choices made by drivers that MIGHT result in death. Based on the statistics, it seems the repeat speeders that don’t kill are getting off with a slap on the wrist.

    Do you see the hypocrisy of those that claim responsible drinkers are worse than speeders? I do.

    It’s time to scale back this ridiculous prohibitionist legislation. It’s a big waste of taxpayers dollars.

  • December 10, 2009 at 11:10 am
    Batman says:
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    Holy damned lies, LOL! It is one thing to address a tragedy, it is another to inflate it. It just goes to show that statistics are meaningless without interpretation and that interpretation is also subjective. I agree that Hurley and MADD are actually trying to PROHIBIT alcohol not just drunk driving; their track record speaks for itself. Same goes for the anti-abortion folks and the evangelical lobbies. None of these groups are content to keep the public informed; they want to make decisions for us instead. No wonder no one takes personal responsiblity and accountability for their actions; the “I know better” crowd is there to “protect” us.



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