It’s hard to compare cars that operate in 2 dimensions with aircraft…especially when 1 is climbing. Possibly into the path of another in level flight on roughly the same heading. Speed differential may be totally immaterial. The climbing a/c is blind to the rear and the one in level flight has limited vision below because it is a >>low wing
Although the point is well taken about the “On Demand” Airlines – unless I’m mistaken it’s the Private pilot that was at fault here & in my opinion much more dangerous than anything in the sky these days !!
While FAA probably does puts fewer eyes on these folks, its obvious whoever write this or read about the incident isn’t a pilot. This is almost without exception 100% the fault of the Saratoga pilot.
Think of it this way; helo was driving 35mph in the slow lane and the Saratoga came up from behind at 70mph and ran up his tailpipe. You gonna tell me it was helo’s fault? Please. It was VFR rules and more manuerverable aircraft always yields to the lesser. That means it was the responsibility of the Saratoga pilot to keep his eyes open and yield to these type of aircraft. Same thing if he would have hit a balloon or a skydiver.
I think that year’s PA28-300R was called the Lance. I’ve got some time in it’s predecessor the Cherokee 6 and the long nose and dihedral really cut visibility below. Hopefully, there will be radar tracks on both a/c and that will help establish the positions, etc. Part of my initial post got cutoff…but I concluded saying it is too soon to know what happened. Let the NTSB do their job…they are paid to do it.
I have been on two commercial flights around Milwaukee in the past year that had close encounters with the small planes out of Oshkosh. I don’t like my commuter jet making fighter pilot moves. It seems as though these small planes need to have a bit more something or more of these crashes will occur.
Bravo, Steve.
You nailed it.
The chopper was in area before Saratoga came in
-What WAS the pilot of that Saratoga doing that he didn’t see the chopper.
Well, with no required “blsck box”, no flight plans, no air traffic control requirements, we’ll never know !
And worse: iy can happen again.
Answer to the problem: Controls & Regulation
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It’s hard to compare cars that operate in 2 dimensions with aircraft…especially when 1 is climbing. Possibly into the path of another in level flight on roughly the same heading. Speed differential may be totally immaterial. The climbing a/c is blind to the rear and the one in level flight has limited vision below because it is a >>low wing
Although the point is well taken about the “On Demand” Airlines – unless I’m mistaken it’s the Private pilot that was at fault here & in my opinion much more dangerous than anything in the sky these days !!
While FAA probably does puts fewer eyes on these folks, its obvious whoever write this or read about the incident isn’t a pilot. This is almost without exception 100% the fault of the Saratoga pilot.
Think of it this way; helo was driving 35mph in the slow lane and the Saratoga came up from behind at 70mph and ran up his tailpipe. You gonna tell me it was helo’s fault? Please. It was VFR rules and more manuerverable aircraft always yields to the lesser. That means it was the responsibility of the Saratoga pilot to keep his eyes open and yield to these type of aircraft. Same thing if he would have hit a balloon or a skydiver.
I think that year’s PA28-300R was called the Lance. I’ve got some time in it’s predecessor the Cherokee 6 and the long nose and dihedral really cut visibility below. Hopefully, there will be radar tracks on both a/c and that will help establish the positions, etc. Part of my initial post got cutoff…but I concluded saying it is too soon to know what happened. Let the NTSB do their job…they are paid to do it.
I have been on two commercial flights around Milwaukee in the past year that had close encounters with the small planes out of Oshkosh. I don’t like my commuter jet making fighter pilot moves. It seems as though these small planes need to have a bit more something or more of these crashes will occur.
Bravo, Steve.
You nailed it.
The chopper was in area before Saratoga came in
-What WAS the pilot of that Saratoga doing that he didn’t see the chopper.
Well, with no required “blsck box”, no flight plans, no air traffic control requirements, we’ll never know !
And worse: iy can happen again.
Answer to the problem: Controls & Regulation