Best Revises Liberty Mutual Group Outlook to Negative; Affirms Ratings

April 10, 2009

  • April 10, 2009 at 10:33 am
    Liberty Sucks ..... says:
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    Good lord have you ever heard of spell check?! What the hell are you talking about? You have ADD, ataxia and diarrhea of the mouth all at once.

    Liberty is a bunch of arrogant a-holes. Go down baby…. swim the fishes and AIG too….

  • April 10, 2009 at 11:55 am
    The Oracle says:
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    Go down baby..and swim with fishes…?

    You’re right. There are two spelling errors so I accept your outrage for that…but clearly you are under the influence of somthing. I offered an insider’s look and you shill me to be an illiterate mis-spelled fool?…OK…fine…I am. I’m pond scum…I’m ofall fodder (look it up)…I’m dark and confused and did you say “ADD?” sweet Jesus I wish (hope) that were true….

    In October I wrote in this medium all the things that would occur in AIG and call-out Greenburg’s departure to Bermuda to hook-up with Kelly and other Lexington AIG types and nearly 100 respondants told IJ (this medium) I was insightful.

    But..a guy like you can make no point pointing-out the basedless thoughtful world is without a point.

    Thnaks Biff…or should we spell that a”Biph”?
    (By-the-by Biph…I would have corrected my spelling but SPPPELLL CHECK DON”T WERK SO GUDE ON THISS HER’ THINGAMAJIG!”

    Did you even consider what I wrote you impish, uninformed, mid-teier surrogate? I hope you buy, buy, buy BIPH! I totally full of mis-spelled pooh!

    Good bye America!

    Guys like Biph make this antennable medium.

  • April 11, 2009 at 12:08 pm
    hard market? says:
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    I, too, know who the Oracle is and I can say that we are truely challenged and informed by his contribuions. The knothead who rails seems to be under the influence of something. The “Oracle” has sat in a room with our past and current Treasury Secretay and may know more than any person to frequent this site. I know him and he is not an ADD sufferer. He is considered a reluctant brilliant mind and I hope he continues to frequent this site.

  • April 11, 2009 at 12:28 pm
    A.D.D? says:
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    If I might…

    For the first time in a long time an obvious learned professional offered salient comments relating Aetna and CNA’s Prudential-like capital plays to today’s challenges and some snot-nosed jilted pissant can’t follow a downhill logic trail profered by a person who obviously knows more than most of us. Screw this site and guys/gals like “that guy”. I’m facilated by intelligence and sadddend by dolts like mister-twister who missed a well-spelled lesson. By-the-by bed-wetter…there’s no spell-check on this site…

    Guilty of caring?

    Go suck your thumb “Liberty Sucks” guy…

  • April 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm
    The Oracle says:
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    Go suck your thumb?…
    funny!

    I’ve jumped-in from time to time and never read a missive like “that dude” so it/he/she is an aberation. I think most folks are just good decent people and they are the ones who say nice things when I contribute.

    I have an article comming-out in the WSJ next week on the subject of Federal oversite of heretofore state’s commissioner’s oversite….maybe I can get the bed-wetter to sober-up enough to write somthing I can quote or use?

    Maybe not….

    At least if he/she/it does…I promise to spell his hyphenated mono-slovoic drivel correctly…in the most read financial newspaper in the world….I’m just saying…

    I have, and offical do no raffirm my oath…to never…ever write, type or scroll a remark on this insepid site. “And to all a good night”.
    D.

  • April 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    Liberty Critic says:
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    These guys are in trouble. They have reduced pricing by more than 50% over the past 3 years with increasing claims and a huge recent dropoff in underwriting experience. Look out below!!!!

  • April 10, 2009 at 1:34 am
    Ric says:
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    Could the downward spiral be close behind?

  • April 10, 2009 at 1:34 am
    Mark M says:
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    Let’s see – 25% of book is WC

    The are at / over 100%

    Payrolls down – Rp’s from aduits up -investment income down-

    Deep deep doo doo ahead!

  • April 10, 2009 at 1:42 am
    Lacitizen says:
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    This can’t be a surprise given the way they operate, contra to the market. I forsee major disruption ahead for a lot of us agents.

  • April 10, 2009 at 2:27 am
    MicMac says:
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    I don’t really read too much into these ratings/outlook as Every Major business/corporation/investment holdings have taken a hit one way or the other in the last 2 yrs. Liberty’s primarily expanded by purchasing other carriers (Safeco, Ohio Casualty, Prudential P&C, etc)and that takes a hit on cash flow. Combine that with poor investment results-again, a common problem with everyone-and the ratings take a hit. Breathe in, breathe out…everything will be alright.



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