U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Philip Morris $79M Damages Appeal

June 10, 2008

  • June 12, 2008 at 2:18 am
    TOYB says:
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    Lastbat:

    Dude. You keep bringing up the point that warnings have been around for too long, and then I keep bringing up the point that in this lawsuit, the guy started smoking before the warnings. What is your problem dude(or dudette)?

    And then you say something like, “well he should have sued after the warnings were put on the packages and should not have waited all these years”… How was he supposed to sue if he wasn’t yet sick? He had to wait.

    Then you say something like, “well, he should have just quit if he didn’t want to die from cigarettes”. Dude, cigarettes are addictive and VERY difficult to quit. That’s the whole point.

    Well, that combined with the fact that the companies knew they were addictive, didn’t tell people, expected that a large number of people wouldn’t have the will power to quit, and that they would make a crapload of profit off them.

    That’s preying on the weakest among us. It’s shameful, and the strongest among us have a duty to stop it.

    I’m sure you’ll decide to throw more demagoguery at me again, but I think I’m done with you and won’t be responding anymore.

    I’m done wasting my time with your demogoguery.

  • June 12, 2008 at 2:31 am
    Sheila says:
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    TOYB/TYOB – Promise? OK, this man started smoking in 1957, warnings first came out on the packages, in US in 1963. But that wasn’t the first we had heard of the discussion. Much easier to quit after 4-5-6 years than 40, but he chose not too.

    Based on my personal experience (I’m a 20 + year x-smoker with an alcoholic brother) it IS apparently much easier to quit smoking than to quit drinking.

    Yes, the tobacco companies have done everything they could to make us continue to use their product – that’s called free enterprise. But people that weigh the evidence and decide they want to quit can, those who think they’d rather continue to smoke do, that’s called free choice.

    I still get mail from Marlboro offering coupons or contests, but every piece of it also has information on where to find their smoking cessation help on their website. I don’t see that on a can of Bud Light or bottle of Absolut!

    When I die, as we all will, I do not want my family to sue anyone for the choices I made during my lifetime – they can just continue to work and support themselves, or I’ll come back and haunt them!

  • June 12, 2008 at 6:44 am
    lastbat says:
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    Sheila, I like that last bit and I’m going to add it to my will “If anybody sues on my behalf for something stupid after I die I will come back and haunt you.” I love it.

  • June 16, 2008 at 9:21 am
    wudchuck says:
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    well, now let’s step back and look at another picture.

    he’s been smoking for 40 yrs. we try to say that he died based on the smoking addiction. what if he had not been smoking and died in the same 40 yrs? are we planning to sue someone because he died of something else? he could have died from diabetes type 2 – which i have found out that this is hereditary – so do we so our parents and grandparents? we did not ask for that gene to be passed along. so we need to stop blaming the big companies when we make choices. again, we or i make a choice then i need to live with the consequences.

    again, we not sure what would have happened if he had not smoked. not sure if he might have died earlier or later. let’s stop the blame, because we made a bad choice.

  • June 24, 2008 at 2:37 am
    livetruenow says:
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    WHY ARE TOBACCO PRODUCTS UN-REGULATED, STILL LEGAL, AND CONSUMED AT THE BLESSING OF THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE DEATH OF IT’S USERS .!!! Tobacco Industry inter-office memos and letters, now exposed through court order. “What we want to do this morning is to take a summary look at the smoking and health question, and then make a proposal to you, for a B&W project to counter the anti-cigarette forces. “Doubt is our product, since it is the best means of competing with the “body of fact” that exists…”It is also the means of establishing a controversy!”. source: Brown and Williamson confidential strategy proposal, “Smoking and Health” 1969! Yes 1969.. and they knew about the hazards long before that.Time to get real people,.. about tobacco death,.. and it’s continued acceptance in our society.

  • June 24, 2008 at 6:07 am
    livetrue2 says:
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    WHY ARE FAST FOOD PRODUCTS UN-REGULATED, STILL LEGAL, AND CONSUMED AT THE BLESSING OF THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE DEATH OF IT’S USERS .!!! Fast food Industry inter-office memos and letters, now exposed through court order. “What we want to do this morning is to take a summary look at the fast-foods and health question, and then make a proposal to you, for a B&W project to counter the anti-fast food forces. “Doubt is our product, since it is the best means of competing with the “body of fact” that exists…”It is also the means of establishing a controversy!”. source: Burger and Fries confidential strategy proposal, “Fast-foods and Health” 1969! Yes 1969.. and they knew about the hazards long before that.Time to get real people,.. about fast-food deaths from heart attacks and ,.. and it’s continued acceptance in our society.



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