$175M Holocaust Insurance Settlement with Generali Moves Forward

January 10, 2008

  • January 10, 2008 at 8:12 am
    Just Plain Mean says:
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    So if someone kills a member of your family, but isn’t brought to justice for 30 years, you’re ok if I tell you to “just shake it off?” It happened so long ago, move on.

    I’m not talking about the amount of the settlement (I agree – it’s enough), I’m talking about the attitude that these folks don’t deserve some kind of restitution for the pain or the recognition that there was wrong committed.

  • January 10, 2008 at 8:34 am
    WooWooWoo says:
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    It is the focus on money that is disturbing.

    The alleged perpetrators were tried and some were found guilty; they were punished according to prevailing law.

    Nonetheless, often second-generation relatives stand in line with their hands out, waiting for money, as though they are owed something.

    As stated before–get over it folks, and get on with what remains of your lives.

  • January 10, 2008 at 2:36 am
    WooWooWoo says:
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    The political pressure that was brought to bear to get the insurer to pay this much money must have been tremendous.

    I hope only that the payment is not made by the company merely to quiet screaming distant relatives of real holocaust victims–but instead, that hard, tangible proof of loss and the existence of policies are required to collect.

  • January 10, 2008 at 3:38 am
    David says:
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    After fees and costs each plaintiff looks to get maybe $15,000. These people need to get a life and stop whining about what happened 65 years ago. Think of all the time, energy, and expense of chasing these shadows. They would do well looking to the future instead of living in the past. Holocaust this, Holocaust that is all you ever hear. Move on folks.

  • January 10, 2008 at 4:01 am
    Just Plain Mean says:
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    David, I agree – they should also do away with the special fund set up to help the victims and families of 9/11.

    All you ever hear is “9/11 this” and “9/11 that.”

    Be very careful when you belittle the injuries and suffering heaped on others, especially when the acts were as atrocious as those dealt out in the holocaust. The “when” doesn’t matter it’s the what. These actions were NEVER all right or considered legal.

  • January 10, 2008 at 4:29 am
    David says:
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    A lot of things will never be right or legal but life goes on. I don’t mean to belittle their issues. It just that it’s getting old after all these years and the restitution doesn’t justify the expense.

  • January 10, 2008 at 6:07 am
    Umpiire says:
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    What bothers me about such things is how we must perpetuate the victimology.

    Will this 175mil come from the oppressors that bear the guilt of the issue. Impossible.

    The victims that originally suffered will not benefit. It was their suffering, and to pretend their heirs can “recoup” that in monetary payments seems to actually insult their elders.

    The responsible are dead, suffered war crime hearings… are not the ones paying the money, that’s for sure.

    Instead, we created a new set of victims — the stockholders of the company that hold shares now. And let’s not pretend that they received value from the days of old… unless they’ve held the stock for 50 years.

    There are some things that cannot be made right. Pretending we can do so, by wasting our precious time on earth, and making lawyers rich, that does nothing to improve our lives nor our nation… this is very sad.

    When you can make things right, or you can punish the truly mean person, it should be done right then in swift form. Otherwise, move on, and remember that you regularly tell your children that life is not fair… so there’s no reason to pretend you can make it that way.

  • January 10, 2008 at 6:21 am
    WooWooWoo says:
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    That was eloquent, and accurate, Umpiire. Some people are never content being content. Just get over it, folks.

    I trust that Mr. Dubbin did not charge legal fees for his “work”.

  • January 10, 2008 at 6:26 am
    Mary B. says:
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    Agreed David. This settlement is MORE than fair. Time to get over it and move on… even for the 9/11 folks (get over it JPM). Sorry but wallowing in history and self pity is extremely unattractive unless you wrap it up in a pretty bow made of money.

  • January 11, 2008 at 9:32 am
    JGD says:
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    There is a lot of sense here. It is very, very true that the both the people who committed the crimes and the actual victims are not the ones involved in this case. And it is also true that a person can’t move forward unless they can get over the past. As far as the judgement now–I hope that, at least, unless the people involved can prove they are the children or possibly grandchildren of the victims, they should be told they are not entitled to any settlements; no third cousins or great nieces/nephews. And I hope it is put towards counseling, if they really have this much trouble moving forward.



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