Well then “Me,” when they come for you next I don’t want to hear any complaining. It’s the folks with apathetic attitudes like this that are destroying this country. You all get what you deserve.
Great idea Sue! Let’s issue some longer sentencing guidelines. Wait, better yet, how about some mandatory minimums, because arsonist belong in prison more than murderers and rapists! Let’s just fill our prisons with non violent offenders so there is no more room for the violent ones. Oh yeah, lets give life sentencing to all the hippies selling acid at Grateful Dead concerts too! They are a bigger threat to society than sociopaths!
Rick, I don’t think Sue was saying we should displace violent offenders; and I’m not sure how you get that arson isn’t a violent crime. I personally would rank arson much closer to murder than I would drug use. Calm down a little and get some perspective.
Maybe I’ve been watching too much CSI, but if someone has been convicted of a crime, especially a felony, isn’t there already a record of that information available to law enforcement agencies? Perhaps it’s not in a pretty little database of all arsonsists only or all sex offenders only or all drug selling hippies only; but I’m 99% sure the info is merely a well-placed phone call away.
Should or would such databases be available to the general public? I haven’t decided. I can see very solid points both for and against it. If someone has served their sentence for their misdeed, then in the eyes of the law, they’re reset back to “normal” in most cases and should be allowed some privacy. However, there are times where I think they should never have a “right” to privacy again, especially with those who have committed crimes against children or sex offenders…
But arson? I think I’d rather have access to a habitual drunk driver database than an arsonist database. Both are dangerous offenses, but one is far more common and probably a much bigger problem than the other.
Geez, after the major fires in California and Arizona a couple years ago, this is probably long overdue. How will this affect those who “accidentally” set a fire from camping or something like that? http://www.phoenix-life-insurance.com
Can we talk? The reason this country has problems with arsonists and child molesters is because we lack the balls to impose a serious consequence on them the FIRST time we catch them. At the risk of sounding draconian, we need a deterrent and until these social deviants perceive a serious consequence they won’t stop. What are those consequences? If I were king I’d have no problem establishing them. Unfortunately, our pathetically flawed legal system and gutless politicians would never allow it. So…..let’s forget the “registry” nonsense and just wait for the next event. Maybe the perps will come up with more creative cop outs for their stupidity instead of the usual “I was abused as a child”.
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Great, there go our civil liberties. Thank you very much George Bush!
When they came for the pedophiles I didn’t say anything. Then they came for the arsonists and I still didn’t say anything…..
Good idea, particularly considering that the victims are so helpless to prevent it.
If there is a need to track them, then longer mandatory jail sentences need to be put on the books. Has any survey been done on repeat offenders?
Well then “Me,” when they come for you next I don’t want to hear any complaining. It’s the folks with apathetic attitudes like this that are destroying this country. You all get what you deserve.
Great idea Sue! Let’s issue some longer sentencing guidelines. Wait, better yet, how about some mandatory minimums, because arsonist belong in prison more than murderers and rapists! Let’s just fill our prisons with non violent offenders so there is no more room for the violent ones. Oh yeah, lets give life sentencing to all the hippies selling acid at Grateful Dead concerts too! They are a bigger threat to society than sociopaths!
Rick, I don’t think Sue was saying we should displace violent offenders; and I’m not sure how you get that arson isn’t a violent crime. I personally would rank arson much closer to murder than I would drug use. Calm down a little and get some perspective.
Maybe I’ve been watching too much CSI, but if someone has been convicted of a crime, especially a felony, isn’t there already a record of that information available to law enforcement agencies? Perhaps it’s not in a pretty little database of all arsonsists only or all sex offenders only or all drug selling hippies only; but I’m 99% sure the info is merely a well-placed phone call away.
Should or would such databases be available to the general public? I haven’t decided. I can see very solid points both for and against it. If someone has served their sentence for their misdeed, then in the eyes of the law, they’re reset back to “normal” in most cases and should be allowed some privacy. However, there are times where I think they should never have a “right” to privacy again, especially with those who have committed crimes against children or sex offenders…
But arson? I think I’d rather have access to a habitual drunk driver database than an arsonist database. Both are dangerous offenses, but one is far more common and probably a much bigger problem than the other.
Geez, after the major fires in California and Arizona a couple years ago, this is probably long overdue. How will this affect those who “accidentally” set a fire from camping or something like that? http://www.phoenix-life-insurance.com
Can we talk? The reason this country has problems with arsonists and child molesters is because we lack the balls to impose a serious consequence on them the FIRST time we catch them. At the risk of sounding draconian, we need a deterrent and until these social deviants perceive a serious consequence they won’t stop. What are those consequences? If I were king I’d have no problem establishing them. Unfortunately, our pathetically flawed legal system and gutless politicians would never allow it. So…..let’s forget the “registry” nonsense and just wait for the next event. Maybe the perps will come up with more creative cop outs for their stupidity instead of the usual “I was abused as a child”.