if the adult is serving or is full aware of a drinking by underage, i can see this being a fair treatment. but you need to add to the fact, kids are responsible as well. they need to have community service for them. but if the adults/parents are not aware of the alcohol that was brought in by outside sources, then you can\’t make them responsible, but you can make the kids responsible. you can\’t continually make the parents responsible w/o make the kids responsible as well.
Ok I get it that under 18 is bad to have any kid drink etc……….
but over 18 I say our laws are ..stupid….
when its ok to go to war & die for your country …it should be ok to drink
if you can be sent to prison for life
it should be ok to drink
Parents that want their 18-20 year olds to drink at home parties I say it should be ok
It\’s the the parents that don\’t monitor the party should be held they same way as over 21 parties that don\’t monitor the drunks that leave their party
we have the laws lets treat everyone over 18 the same
Oh,just in case anyone forgot, the actual legal drinking age is 21, not 18. I agree that kids 18 to 21 shouldn\’t have to serve in the military, however, you forget one thing, many enlist in pursuit of an education. It\’s their choice to serve. It is however, not their right to drink. On the issue of drinking, parents need to be more proactive when it comes to the actions of their kids. No one can completely control what their kids do so I don\’t believe punishing the parents for the kids actions is actually accomplishing anything,but,parents need to stop trying not to offend their children by checking up on them and what they are doing and making sure it\’s what they say they are doing. Trust But Verify!!! If the kids are not doing anything wrong, they have no reason to be offended. I trust my child but, I don\’t necessarily trust all of her friends. It\’s my duty to keep her safe and when it comes to matters of safety, it\’s non-negotiable and she knows that.
Here\’s the other thing you may not realize. having been a veteran for 13 yrs, in some states if the drinking age is higher and the post is w/in so many miles, the age to drink on based is raised to meet that local need. reasoning, is why lose business and have a military member go offbase; the caution is they are not allowed to travel offbase. here again, comes in the responsiblity of the person.
is it not like handing a child a piece of candy, but whom is held responsible? if he gets older and continues to eat candy, do we blame the parent whom gave him the first one? or the individual whom continued to eat candy? sometimes i think we tend to forget that each of us are responsible for our own actions. we are not insane, we have created a syndrome whereas someone can always get out of taking responsiblity for their own actions! where will it end? why can\’t we hold the children responsible? in europe, they do allow kids a drink of wine at the table. we just need to be not only responsible to our kids, but make our kids be responsible — parents need to take an active role in raising the kids at being responsible.
In Europe people also drive less. There less of a need to drive to get where you\’re going b/c of the excellent public transportation system. Also there is less \”suburban sprawl\” and more people live in or very close to urban areas and a large portion of the population has access to transportation and don\’t need to drive everywhere.
The legal drinking age is higher b/c the younger you are the more likely you are to drink and drive.
Nonsense – our drinking age is higher because of the all-pervasive Puritan ethic that still saturates our country. Europeans learn NOT to binge drink because alcohol is no big deal for them by the time they leave home. They also learn NOT to freak out at the sight of (gasp!) a breast, which is altogether too much for fragile moralists like our former attorney gen\’l Mr. Ashcroft. Fact is, we\’re a nation of prudes, always have been, and we legislate out morality onto the populace en masse. My kids could drink with us – at table only, as an adjunct to meals – as children, and guess what? Neither of them became drunken partiers when they went to college – their friends\’ antics were old news and a bad idea to them. A party full of teenage drinkers, though, is obviously another thing, and should be legislated differently – only I can decide if MY children should be allowed a drink. Viva common sense!
Soooo…If parents leave a party in their home, and \’Junior\’s\’ friend shows up with a fifth, does the mom and dad of Junior and his friend go to jail?
When my 18 year old daughter came to me about having a graduation/ birthday party, I said, OK, only if there is no alcohol served. She said ok, skip it then, Ill just ahve a few friends over and then I will go to another party. I thought that was the end if it. Until I saw her friends. Some of the most beautiful 18 year olds ive ever seen. They kept begging me to do shots with them, I just couldnt say no for some reason. After a while they were dancing to loud music in the basement and they had me doing \”body shots\” off of them. I never would have done this sober, but they wouldnt leave me alone. After about 2 hours of drinking, I stumbled back up stairs to see that there were about 100 kids at the house with a keg of beer. After doing those body shots, I was too ashamed to yell at the kids so I just let them continue on. Probably not my best parenting moment, but it was a great party!
Your kids aren\’t all kids. If your kids are run of the mill average in every way maybe you\’d have an argument. Even then there are tons of single parent homes where kids don\’t usually get all the proper guidance they are looking for.
Alcohol and car keys in the hands of dumb kids (which there are a lot of in this country) is a dangerous combination. The hope is that at a later age that these young people at least have the ability to make more responsible decisions.
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if the adult is serving or is full aware of a drinking by underage, i can see this being a fair treatment. but you need to add to the fact, kids are responsible as well. they need to have community service for them. but if the adults/parents are not aware of the alcohol that was brought in by outside sources, then you can\’t make them responsible, but you can make the kids responsible. you can\’t continually make the parents responsible w/o make the kids responsible as well.
I agree.
Ok I get it that under 18 is bad to have any kid drink etc……….
but over 18 I say our laws are ..stupid….
when its ok to go to war & die for your country …it should be ok to drink
if you can be sent to prison for life
it should be ok to drink
Parents that want their 18-20 year olds to drink at home parties I say it should be ok
It\’s the the parents that don\’t monitor the party should be held they same way as over 21 parties that don\’t monitor the drunks that leave their party
we have the laws lets treat everyone over 18 the same
Oh,just in case anyone forgot, the actual legal drinking age is 21, not 18. I agree that kids 18 to 21 shouldn\’t have to serve in the military, however, you forget one thing, many enlist in pursuit of an education. It\’s their choice to serve. It is however, not their right to drink. On the issue of drinking, parents need to be more proactive when it comes to the actions of their kids. No one can completely control what their kids do so I don\’t believe punishing the parents for the kids actions is actually accomplishing anything,but,parents need to stop trying not to offend their children by checking up on them and what they are doing and making sure it\’s what they say they are doing. Trust But Verify!!! If the kids are not doing anything wrong, they have no reason to be offended. I trust my child but, I don\’t necessarily trust all of her friends. It\’s my duty to keep her safe and when it comes to matters of safety, it\’s non-negotiable and she knows that.
Here\’s the other thing you may not realize. having been a veteran for 13 yrs, in some states if the drinking age is higher and the post is w/in so many miles, the age to drink on based is raised to meet that local need. reasoning, is why lose business and have a military member go offbase; the caution is they are not allowed to travel offbase. here again, comes in the responsiblity of the person.
is it not like handing a child a piece of candy, but whom is held responsible? if he gets older and continues to eat candy, do we blame the parent whom gave him the first one? or the individual whom continued to eat candy? sometimes i think we tend to forget that each of us are responsible for our own actions. we are not insane, we have created a syndrome whereas someone can always get out of taking responsiblity for their own actions! where will it end? why can\’t we hold the children responsible? in europe, they do allow kids a drink of wine at the table. we just need to be not only responsible to our kids, but make our kids be responsible — parents need to take an active role in raising the kids at being responsible.
In Europe people also drive less. There less of a need to drive to get where you\’re going b/c of the excellent public transportation system. Also there is less \”suburban sprawl\” and more people live in or very close to urban areas and a large portion of the population has access to transportation and don\’t need to drive everywhere.
The legal drinking age is higher b/c the younger you are the more likely you are to drink and drive.
Nonsense – our drinking age is higher because of the all-pervasive Puritan ethic that still saturates our country. Europeans learn NOT to binge drink because alcohol is no big deal for them by the time they leave home. They also learn NOT to freak out at the sight of (gasp!) a breast, which is altogether too much for fragile moralists like our former attorney gen\’l Mr. Ashcroft. Fact is, we\’re a nation of prudes, always have been, and we legislate out morality onto the populace en masse. My kids could drink with us – at table only, as an adjunct to meals – as children, and guess what? Neither of them became drunken partiers when they went to college – their friends\’ antics were old news and a bad idea to them. A party full of teenage drinkers, though, is obviously another thing, and should be legislated differently – only I can decide if MY children should be allowed a drink. Viva common sense!
Soooo…If parents leave a party in their home, and \’Junior\’s\’ friend shows up with a fifth, does the mom and dad of Junior and his friend go to jail?
When my 18 year old daughter came to me about having a graduation/ birthday party, I said, OK, only if there is no alcohol served. She said ok, skip it then, Ill just ahve a few friends over and then I will go to another party. I thought that was the end if it. Until I saw her friends. Some of the most beautiful 18 year olds ive ever seen. They kept begging me to do shots with them, I just couldnt say no for some reason. After a while they were dancing to loud music in the basement and they had me doing \”body shots\” off of them. I never would have done this sober, but they wouldnt leave me alone. After about 2 hours of drinking, I stumbled back up stairs to see that there were about 100 kids at the house with a keg of beer. After doing those body shots, I was too ashamed to yell at the kids so I just let them continue on. Probably not my best parenting moment, but it was a great party!
Your kids aren\’t all kids. If your kids are run of the mill average in every way maybe you\’d have an argument. Even then there are tons of single parent homes where kids don\’t usually get all the proper guidance they are looking for.
Alcohol and car keys in the hands of dumb kids (which there are a lot of in this country) is a dangerous combination. The hope is that at a later age that these young people at least have the ability to make more responsible decisions.