Only in CA. would a manager at Fedex be held liable for smartass comments to workers in the office. As we all know, it is unacceptable to harass anyone based upon their origin, sex, etc. But, to have the court decide these comments are worth $1,000,000 against the individual manager is only possible in CA. I do not agree the manager should ever make such comments but fire him in lieu of taking every personal asset he will ever acquire.
I completely agree that these poor people deserve compensation for the mental anguish that they must have suffered, it is completely unjustified harassment. HOWEVER – this is hugely excessive – these decisions by our courts are what cause outrageous lawsuits to be filed by people looking to make profit. No Fed Ex worker could see this type of money in their lifetime – it is exorbitant. A lessor amount would have more than drilled the point home.
Much like the recent discussion of State Farm\’s treating its agents as \”independent contractors,\” it is interesting to note that FedEx treats its drivers as \”independent contractors\” although in both cases, the IRS is looking the other way as both organizations fail to pass the numerous published IRS tests for these people being \”independent contractors.\”
Both corporations are being sued for this discarding of their employees and their employer obligations–to force the inert IRS to enforce its own tests.
All this sours relationships between these companies and their \”employees\” or whatever status they are said to have.
$61 million (clearly to be reduced as things go along in the courts)–Sounds penny wise and pound foolish. Wonder if the jury knew about this \”independent contractor\” dodge and if it upped the ante. Interesting that there was coverage under the policy. Good job by the broker or perhaps Fedex drivers were employees back then.
Oh, whoa is me,these poor guys maybe got called a few names. How horrible. I wonder if they sued their teachers in grade school as well when they were teased. I wonder if anybody ever checked to see if they were in the country legally or not? Sorry, I don\’t buy this crap!. And KT, your bleeding heart liberalism is showing off well today.
Why is it even actionable? What business should it be of the govt, that some guy\’s boss calls him a camel jockey? \”Mommy! Billy called me a name!!!\”
I was working for a rather large banking institution in the 1970\’s – the assistant manager thought it would be funny to tease me about the size of a certain part of my anatomy on a DAILY basis. This went on for 2 years….got so bad it gave me ulcers. Every time I complained, all I got was \”gee…that\’s too bad, boom-boom\”!
or \”can\’t you take a joke\”? 29 years later, I\’m still fuming and still suffer from ulcers…because of the statutes, it\’s too late to do anything about it now.
$61 Million? Maybe I could get triple for my pain & suffering!
I always thought it was the sticks and stones that hurt, but not in today\’s world. Verdicts so clearly outrageous as this one serve to undermine our belief in the rule of law. We trading in our common sense for the rules of evidence, and as anyone can see, it is a bad deal!
Through its comments, particularly through the comments directed to the woman contributor, our insurance \”community\” once again shows itself to be a bunch of repressive, ante-diluvian creeps. Did their mommies not ttreat them fairly as a child? No wonder the world despises insurance people.
That\’s how we keep all the ladies down in the workplace. Wouldn\’t want to have to pay them like men.
Some members of the community are also ignorant–many ulcer cases, bacteria, yes. Curable in many cases, manageable in most but not all. I guess that is her fault too.
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Only in CA. would a manager at Fedex be held liable for smartass comments to workers in the office. As we all know, it is unacceptable to harass anyone based upon their origin, sex, etc. But, to have the court decide these comments are worth $1,000,000 against the individual manager is only possible in CA. I do not agree the manager should ever make such comments but fire him in lieu of taking every personal asset he will ever acquire.
This is overkill on workplace matters.
Just my opinion.
I completely agree that these poor people deserve compensation for the mental anguish that they must have suffered, it is completely unjustified harassment. HOWEVER – this is hugely excessive – these decisions by our courts are what cause outrageous lawsuits to be filed by people looking to make profit. No Fed Ex worker could see this type of money in their lifetime – it is exorbitant. A lessor amount would have more than drilled the point home.
Much like the recent discussion of State Farm\’s treating its agents as \”independent contractors,\” it is interesting to note that FedEx treats its drivers as \”independent contractors\” although in both cases, the IRS is looking the other way as both organizations fail to pass the numerous published IRS tests for these people being \”independent contractors.\”
Both corporations are being sued for this discarding of their employees and their employer obligations–to force the inert IRS to enforce its own tests.
All this sours relationships between these companies and their \”employees\” or whatever status they are said to have.
$61 million (clearly to be reduced as things go along in the courts)–Sounds penny wise and pound foolish. Wonder if the jury knew about this \”independent contractor\” dodge and if it upped the ante. Interesting that there was coverage under the policy. Good job by the broker or perhaps Fedex drivers were employees back then.
Go UPS instead. Their drivers are employees.
Oh, whoa is me,these poor guys maybe got called a few names. How horrible. I wonder if they sued their teachers in grade school as well when they were teased. I wonder if anybody ever checked to see if they were in the country legally or not? Sorry, I don\’t buy this crap!. And KT, your bleeding heart liberalism is showing off well today.
Why is it even actionable? What business should it be of the govt, that some guy\’s boss calls him a camel jockey? \”Mommy! Billy called me a name!!!\”
I was working for a rather large banking institution in the 1970\’s – the assistant manager thought it would be funny to tease me about the size of a certain part of my anatomy on a DAILY basis. This went on for 2 years….got so bad it gave me ulcers. Every time I complained, all I got was \”gee…that\’s too bad, boom-boom\”!
or \”can\’t you take a joke\”? 29 years later, I\’m still fuming and still suffer from ulcers…because of the statutes, it\’s too late to do anything about it now.
$61 Million? Maybe I could get triple for my pain & suffering!
I always thought it was the sticks and stones that hurt, but not in today\’s world. Verdicts so clearly outrageous as this one serve to undermine our belief in the rule of law. We trading in our common sense for the rules of evidence, and as anyone can see, it is a bad deal!
Would ease your pain to know that ulers are caused by a bacteria?? If you still have them, you should find a new doc!
Through its comments, particularly through the comments directed to the woman contributor, our insurance \”community\” once again shows itself to be a bunch of repressive, ante-diluvian creeps. Did their mommies not ttreat them fairly as a child? No wonder the world despises insurance people.
That\’s how we keep all the ladies down in the workplace. Wouldn\’t want to have to pay them like men.
Some members of the community are also ignorant–many ulcer cases, bacteria, yes. Curable in many cases, manageable in most but not all. I guess that is her fault too.
–That\’s how we keep all the ladies down in the workplace. Wouldn\’t want to have to pay them like men.–
\”Waaaaah! Mommy, tell the boys to let me play!!\”