1) I am STILL paying med on a m/c vs: van accident from 1996 – we have been in pursuit of reimbursement from the MI Cat Fund for years w/ little to show for it
2) Look on the bright side – more organ doners – maybe the State can harvest and recoup some of it’s Cat payments
Just what we need…more economic burden. I think Gov. Jen Jen is going to veto this anyway. It will be one of the few good things she will have done this term.
Wow! And that $20,000 liability cover is going to help how? I’m guessing that hoarde of motorcyclists from out of state that we’re told will literally stampede into MI and line our coffers will overcome my MCCA assessment increase?
Hey “Mich. Man”: the article is sourced from the AAA of Michigan. Not exactly unbiased. If you’re so concerned about more “economic burden”, then why don’t you lead the parade to mandating helmets for everyone riding in cars. I’m sure we can save some more lives by doing that. While you’re at it, why not outlaw contact sports like football. I’m sure we can reduce even more ‘economic burdens’ with no more paralyzing injuries, knee injures and the like, right? Of course we can’t stop there: let’s regulate any and all “risky” behavior like eating too much, drinking too much, gambling too much…..and your going to decide what is defined as “too much” for us, right? Are you getting the picture here, Mich. Man??
Yes, Joe, we can outlaw everything that is dangerous in the world. It still doesn’t negate the fact that helmets do reduce injuries in regards to motorcycle accidents.
As motorcycle accidents and deaths have increased in the last 10 yrs, doing away with something that helps reduce injuries seems baffling to those of us that don’t ride.
Joe- I bet you were against seatbelts and child safety seats too (and you’re obviously not a biker). Regardless of the source of the article, several states are looking at repealing their “no helmet” laws due to preventable injuries and deaths on bikes and skyrocketing premiums. Don’t cry the slippery slope war whoop- if you ever want to ride w/o a helmet, feel free. Just don’t you, your family or friends complain about the results, even from a minor accident.
Bill: yes, accidents and injuries have increased, but this is not due to the lack of any helmet laws but rather due to the substantial increase in the number of motorcyclists, especially those “retreads” who sold their cycles when they got married 20-30 years ago and have decided to get back on again, only to find out that their reflexes aren’t what they used to be. If you analyze the numbers, you will see that the number of accidents “per miles traveled” has actually been reduced. I also appreciate your honesty, Bill, by acknowledging that you don’t “ride”. Unless you’ve been up on a steel horse, it is difficult to understand why those who ride prefer their freedom of “choice” when it comes to utilizing safety equipment. Indeed, the real decision about risking one’s future health is whether or not to get on a motorcycle in the first place; not using a helmet is of little consequence by comparison.
KCH: you lose the bet. I own 3 motorcycles and have been riding since buying my first one in 1973. I also have 2 children, but since they are not adults and don’t possess the capacity to make such decisions about their own safety, I insisted that they ride in child restraint seats. As for seatbelts, I have used these before we needed another ‘law’ telling us we had to, while providing the police with another excuse to for pulling us over and searching our vehicle. Wake up.
Boy, aren’t you the cynical one. I’m wide awake thanks. I too am a biker and have been for 30 years. You are correct about the number of bikes increasing and some of the demographics of it. None of that obviates the facts: bikes seldom have accidents w/ themselves- it’s a vehicle in the vast majority. Also, the greater % of bike riders having accidents are younger riders riding crotch rockets. You want to ride w/o a helmet, go for it- just pay your own way w/ sufficient policy limits so MCCA doesn’t slap me w/ an assessment. Let’s have the legislature require $500k or $ 1mil and not that anemic $20k.
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1) I am STILL paying med on a m/c vs: van accident from 1996 – we have been in pursuit of reimbursement from the MI Cat Fund for years w/ little to show for it
2) Look on the bright side – more organ doners – maybe the State can harvest and recoup some of it’s Cat payments
Just what we need…more economic burden. I think Gov. Jen Jen is going to veto this anyway. It will be one of the few good things she will have done this term.
Wow! And that $20,000 liability cover is going to help how? I’m guessing that hoarde of motorcyclists from out of state that we’re told will literally stampede into MI and line our coffers will overcome my MCCA assessment increase?
Hey “Mich. Man”: the article is sourced from the AAA of Michigan. Not exactly unbiased. If you’re so concerned about more “economic burden”, then why don’t you lead the parade to mandating helmets for everyone riding in cars. I’m sure we can save some more lives by doing that. While you’re at it, why not outlaw contact sports like football. I’m sure we can reduce even more ‘economic burdens’ with no more paralyzing injuries, knee injures and the like, right? Of course we can’t stop there: let’s regulate any and all “risky” behavior like eating too much, drinking too much, gambling too much…..and your going to decide what is defined as “too much” for us, right? Are you getting the picture here, Mich. Man??
Yes, Joe, we can outlaw everything that is dangerous in the world. It still doesn’t negate the fact that helmets do reduce injuries in regards to motorcycle accidents.
As motorcycle accidents and deaths have increased in the last 10 yrs, doing away with something that helps reduce injuries seems baffling to those of us that don’t ride.
Joe- I bet you were against seatbelts and child safety seats too (and you’re obviously not a biker). Regardless of the source of the article, several states are looking at repealing their “no helmet” laws due to preventable injuries and deaths on bikes and skyrocketing premiums. Don’t cry the slippery slope war whoop- if you ever want to ride w/o a helmet, feel free. Just don’t you, your family or friends complain about the results, even from a minor accident.
Bill: yes, accidents and injuries have increased, but this is not due to the lack of any helmet laws but rather due to the substantial increase in the number of motorcyclists, especially those “retreads” who sold their cycles when they got married 20-30 years ago and have decided to get back on again, only to find out that their reflexes aren’t what they used to be. If you analyze the numbers, you will see that the number of accidents “per miles traveled” has actually been reduced. I also appreciate your honesty, Bill, by acknowledging that you don’t “ride”. Unless you’ve been up on a steel horse, it is difficult to understand why those who ride prefer their freedom of “choice” when it comes to utilizing safety equipment. Indeed, the real decision about risking one’s future health is whether or not to get on a motorcycle in the first place; not using a helmet is of little consequence by comparison.
KCH: you lose the bet. I own 3 motorcycles and have been riding since buying my first one in 1973. I also have 2 children, but since they are not adults and don’t possess the capacity to make such decisions about their own safety, I insisted that they ride in child restraint seats. As for seatbelts, I have used these before we needed another ‘law’ telling us we had to, while providing the police with another excuse to for pulling us over and searching our vehicle. Wake up.
Joe Alto…..It just keeps your brains in one place and makes it easier to clean you up off the road when you have that accident.
Boy, aren’t you the cynical one. I’m wide awake thanks. I too am a biker and have been for 30 years. You are correct about the number of bikes increasing and some of the demographics of it. None of that obviates the facts: bikes seldom have accidents w/ themselves- it’s a vehicle in the vast majority. Also, the greater % of bike riders having accidents are younger riders riding crotch rockets. You want to ride w/o a helmet, go for it- just pay your own way w/ sufficient policy limits so MCCA doesn’t slap me w/ an assessment. Let’s have the legislature require $500k or $ 1mil and not that anemic $20k.