Doctors Want Court to Reinstate Suit Against Gun Maker in Sandy Hook Massacre

March 16, 2017

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:11 am
    Rich..... says:
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    Doctors are killing 2,450% more Americans than all gun-related deaths combined

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:12 am
    Rich..... says:
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    By tradition, medical doctors have monopolistic control over others that want to become medical doctors. Medical doctors determine educational requirements, examination requirements, residency requirements, and continuing education requirements for those that want to practice medicine. Maybe we could converse about that little monopoly, too, since practicing medical doctors kill so many more people each year than people using firearms do…..

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:13 am
    Rich..... says:
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    Show me in the contract where all who serve within our governments, particularly those serving within the general (federal) government was ever DELEGATED the authority to mandate anything. An, no, it is not found within *Article I, Section 8 giving Congress the power to “provide for the common Defence and general Welfare.”

    Understanding that those who serve within our government are not “the” government. They are placed there – elected, hired, contracted, etc – to carry out specific put-into-writing duties, and are allowed to use the “powers” delegated to the three branches and to some specific named-in-writing offices/positions while they are serving (elected, hired, contracted, etc). That delegated in writing authority that those who serve within our government are ALLOWED to use does not belong to the person serving, and the use of that authority has certain conditions placed upon it. The US Constitution was set up this way to make sure that those that serve and are corrupt could not easily destroy our nation and our government, nor use democide against the American people.

    Dr. Vieira puts it this way, and he is correct: “This has nothing to do with personalities or subjective ideas. It’s a matter of what the Constitution provides… The government of the United States has never violated anyone’s constitutional rights… The government of the United States will never violate anyone constitutional rights, because it cannot violate anyone’s constitutional rights. The reason for that is: The government of the United States is that set of actions by public officials that are consistent with the Constitution. Outside of its constitutional powers, the government of the United States has no legitimacy. It has no authority; and, it really even has no existence. It is what lawyers call a legal fiction.

    *James Madison: “I, sir, have always conceived – I believe those who proposed the Constitution conceived, and it is still more fully known, and more material to observe that those who ratified the Constitution conceived –that this is not an indefinite Government, deriving its power from the general terms prefixed to the specified powers, but a limited Government tied down to the specified powers which explain and define the general terms.” He made it clear that the phrase reiterated that the specified powers were tied to “general terms.”

    James Madison in a letter written to a Virginia senator, Joseph Cabell: ” the interstate and foreign commerce clauses were not intended, nor construed, to vest in Congress equivalent powers when regulating domestic and foreign commerce: “I always foresaw difficulties might be started in relation to the interstate commerce power. Being in the same terms with the power over foreign commerce, the same extent, if taken literally, would belong to it. Yet it is very certain it grew out of the abuse of the power of the importing states in taxing the non-importing, and was intended as a negative and preventative provision against injustice amongst the states themselves, rather than as a power to be used for the positive purposes of the General Government, in which alone, however, the remedial power could be lodged. And it will be safer to leave the power with this key to it, than to extend it all the qualities and incidental means belonging to the power over foreign commerce.”

    Nor is it found in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 18 where they get the authority to enforce those things listed in writing, and nothing else: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the FOREGOING POWERS, AND ALL OTHER POWERS VESTED BY THE CONSTITUTION…” Pretty clear then that those that serve within our governments do not have any authority to mandate this or other things on the American people. It IS in writing, it IS the contract that they are strongly bound to by the Oath.

    The American College of Surgeons (ACS) can step into the political game all they want, but IF they are working as a group AGAINST our legitimate government which IS the US Constitution – and it is in writing for a purpose, so that it can NOT be changed by a whim — they might want to read the Supreme treason law within the US Constitution.

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:14 am
    Rich..... says:
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    heavily moderated site

  • March 17, 2017 at 10:36 am
    Tom says:
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    ” military-style rifles ” Funny, if you know anything about firearms at all. Pretty much ALL firearms are “military style.” Bolt action rifles are all based on military rifles. Semi-auto pistols are all bases on designs created for the military.

    Note that they do not say “military rifles.” It’s about style. It LOOKS as though it should be evil.

    But, millions of men and women use these same rifles every day for recreational shooting, for competitions (including the national matches), and for hunting. If you don’t know this, blame the media for not telling you, or blame yourself for not caring enough about the facts to find out.

    Sure. Let’s sue manufacturers for style. Next it could be Ford/Chevy for making cars in the “style” of race cars, encouraging people to drive fast.

    One person was responsible for these murders. The murderer.

  • March 17, 2017 at 1:43 pm
    Gordon says:
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    It follows then that these 10 doctors believe that any victim of medical malpractice (and their families, or anyone interested)should be able to sue makers of scalpels, sutures, xray machines, etc. also.

  • March 17, 2017 at 4:05 pm
    Barry Hirsh says:
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    In 1939, the SCOTUS ruled in U.S. v. Miller that absent evidence(the defense didn’t show up – the defendant was deceased) it could not take judicial notice that the sawed-off shotgun at issue was within the ambit of Second Amendment protection because:

    1) It wasn’t “in common use”.
    2) It could not “contribute to the common defense”.
    3) It had no “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia”.
    4) It was not “any part of the ordinary military equipment”.

    In other words, the Court ruled that there is a right to bear weapons that met these criteria, i.e. military-pattern small arms (“military rifles” and pistols, too) protected by the Second Amendment.

    Since that is the case, the doctors’ main argument is facially irrelevant, not to mention that federal law exempts manufacturers from liability for the criminal acts of the end-user.

  • March 19, 2017 at 6:09 pm
    samadams1776 says:
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    Sooner or later, the threats to our liberty will cause those threats whether by politicians or judges or others, to be dealt with by violence. I am just stating an inevitable result of the attempts at tyranny.

    May God help us all.



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