they moved this guy from one church to another and then they knew that he had problems from before. why was this fellow allowed to be near the kids? i hope that they catholic church is finally going to step out and put these priests out! it is apparently too easy for them to have access to kids. if the church was smart, they would finally allow the clergy to marry. this probably would alleviate the problem by a tremendous amount. but i know that at the church i am at, we have a rule of 2 and we mention it to the parents and to the children that there is always 2 adults while working with the children. we never work alone with 1 child. it protects those that are living by the law and those that try to accuse folks.
In addition of a “Rule of 2”, each place that gathers children together, should provide an advocate (known to the children) who would be available at any time that a child feels threatened or abused – someone the child can trust. This person should be selected by the organizers of the event and responsible for the persons background check and ensure that they accept the rules of privacy and safety extablished by the organization. Churches do not make pedophiles – Churches in the past have made some poor choices by not taking swift and significant action to remove those guilty, and reduce the opportunity for repeat crimes.
agreed, and our church does have an advocate…i usually fail to mention those in the background sometimes…but i know it’s there to protect all those; children and adults!
How about some criminal liability? I don’t buy that priests are protected from prosecution for the crimes they commit because of the separation of church and state. The Constitution only says the government will not dictate religion, not that it won’t interfere when the law is broken.
This truly chafes me. The government routinely prosecutes polygamists when they practice their faith, yet let child molestors go free. Is it because the Catholic church is so big and powerful? I honestly don’t understand why we don’t throw every one of them – molestors and their abettors – in prison.
well, they have prosecuted some of these priests. i am still waiting to see what the church is going to do. i know that they have moved some of the priests to different locations, but the problem is that it can happen again. to me, the church has a major problem allowing such folks in these authoritive places.
How would allowing the clergy to marry alleviate the problem? These priests have a propensity to like boys, not women. I seriously doubt by marrying someone that their urges for boys would subsist.
I think they should get rid of the offenders and have the advocates, 2 rule, etc mentioned previously. You can’t change a pedophile by throwing a woman at him. If that were the case why wouldn’t the priest just go after some random woman rather than a child?
While I am for allowing priests to marry, since it’s considered a holy union by the church and celibacy is an unnatural state, I too fail to see how it would prevent attacks on children.
It’s all about the almighty dollar. Granted, the behavior of some priests was improper. But did you ever notice how many alleged claimants crawled out of the woodwork after 30 plus years once the first claim was asserted? Throwing money at these people isn’t the answer. The plaintiff bar did a masterful job influencing the legal concepts of this country to develop a philosophy of entitlement for “damages” and “compensation”. If these alleged injuries are emotional/psychological, all the money in the world isn’t going to heal them. Our courts keep attempting to drive the car using the rear-view mirror. We need a more progressive system where the courts focus on eliminating the root cause, not making people rich. An let’s be honest, nobody is getting “punished” by awarding big dollars. Quite frankly, I don’t believe these people should get a dime. They didn’t come forward within a reasonable period of time, and are now simply piling on with a “herd” mentality because there’s a pot of gold involved. If it wasn’t important enough to come forward for 30 or 40 years, why is it now vogue? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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they moved this guy from one church to another and then they knew that he had problems from before. why was this fellow allowed to be near the kids? i hope that they catholic church is finally going to step out and put these priests out! it is apparently too easy for them to have access to kids. if the church was smart, they would finally allow the clergy to marry. this probably would alleviate the problem by a tremendous amount. but i know that at the church i am at, we have a rule of 2 and we mention it to the parents and to the children that there is always 2 adults while working with the children. we never work alone with 1 child. it protects those that are living by the law and those that try to accuse folks.
In addition of a “Rule of 2”, each place that gathers children together, should provide an advocate (known to the children) who would be available at any time that a child feels threatened or abused – someone the child can trust. This person should be selected by the organizers of the event and responsible for the persons background check and ensure that they accept the rules of privacy and safety extablished by the organization. Churches do not make pedophiles – Churches in the past have made some poor choices by not taking swift and significant action to remove those guilty, and reduce the opportunity for repeat crimes.
agreed, and our church does have an advocate…i usually fail to mention those in the background sometimes…but i know it’s there to protect all those; children and adults!
How about some criminal liability? I don’t buy that priests are protected from prosecution for the crimes they commit because of the separation of church and state. The Constitution only says the government will not dictate religion, not that it won’t interfere when the law is broken.
This truly chafes me. The government routinely prosecutes polygamists when they practice their faith, yet let child molestors go free. Is it because the Catholic church is so big and powerful? I honestly don’t understand why we don’t throw every one of them – molestors and their abettors – in prison.
well, they have prosecuted some of these priests. i am still waiting to see what the church is going to do. i know that they have moved some of the priests to different locations, but the problem is that it can happen again. to me, the church has a major problem allowing such folks in these authoritive places.
How would allowing the clergy to marry alleviate the problem? These priests have a propensity to like boys, not women. I seriously doubt by marrying someone that their urges for boys would subsist.
I think they should get rid of the offenders and have the advocates, 2 rule, etc mentioned previously. You can’t change a pedophile by throwing a woman at him. If that were the case why wouldn’t the priest just go after some random woman rather than a child?
While I am for allowing priests to marry, since it’s considered a holy union by the church and celibacy is an unnatural state, I too fail to see how it would prevent attacks on children.
It’s all about the almighty dollar. Granted, the behavior of some priests was improper. But did you ever notice how many alleged claimants crawled out of the woodwork after 30 plus years once the first claim was asserted? Throwing money at these people isn’t the answer. The plaintiff bar did a masterful job influencing the legal concepts of this country to develop a philosophy of entitlement for “damages” and “compensation”. If these alleged injuries are emotional/psychological, all the money in the world isn’t going to heal them. Our courts keep attempting to drive the car using the rear-view mirror. We need a more progressive system where the courts focus on eliminating the root cause, not making people rich. An let’s be honest, nobody is getting “punished” by awarding big dollars. Quite frankly, I don’t believe these people should get a dime. They didn’t come forward within a reasonable period of time, and are now simply piling on with a “herd” mentality because there’s a pot of gold involved. If it wasn’t important enough to come forward for 30 or 40 years, why is it now vogue? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$